November 2009

jk69

vw passat 2004 tdi saloon
Water under the drivers seat, carpets all wet through, where is water coming from, any ideas?
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Peter D

I suspect the water was entering via the seal under the Electronics box or even the grommet for the bonnet release cable. Regards Peter

chevrons2

My neighbour's 1996/7 Astra 1.7 TD has a strange problem developing (I think!), related to the fuel cut-off solenoid(s?) on the fuel pump.
He has had difficult cold starting, (turning over for ages, unevenly, then eventually starting with a cloud of smoke and still uneven for a few seconds), so I checked the glow plug feed / timer, and then replaced the glow plugs. I tested the old ones and 3 of them didn't work at all, so I thought 'job done'.
However, I then started the engine to make sure it was ok and it started within a couple of seconds, but it wasn't as instant as you would expect from a diesel (obviously letting the glowplug light go out before turning the key). So I immediately switched it off (so I could try it again) but it carried on running!
If you start the engine and then turn the key off again within a few seconds, it carries on idling. If you then leave it switched off, it will continue idling until about 12-15 seconds after you started it. (So it will run for a total of 12-15 seconds regardless of whether you try to turn it off after 1 second or 11 seconds). It's absolutely fine if you don't switch it off within that time. My neighbour (whose car it is) has never notice the fault, but has probably never tried to stop the engine immediately after starting it!
Anyway, I thought it must be the fuel cut-off / stop solenoid not closing, so I checked the feed to it: there is none (ignition on or off, engine running or not): it is earthed continuously. However, if I disconnect the 3-pin connector in the wiring that goes under the black plastic cover on the back of the pump, (above the cylindrical cut-off solenoid), the engine cuts out immediately (whether within the first 12-15 seconds or after that). One wire to this 3-pin connector has continuous earth, one is earthed with ignition off and live with ignition on, the third wire doesn't give any reading (on a test-lamp screwdriver thingy). I am wondering if the normal looking (as on most diesel cars of this age and older) cylindrical stop-solenoid is permanently stuck open or partially open and whether there is another solenoid (that the 3 wires go to, in the back of the pump), that stays open for at least 12-15 seconds after starting, even if you switch the ignition off again within that time. I can't think why it would need to do this, but presumably it's linked to an ecu or timer or immobiliser or something. When the normal stop-solenoid is working properly (ie closing as soon as the ignition is switched off), having the second solenoid staying open for 12-15 seconds wouldn't make any noticeable difference because the engine would just stop as expected when you switch off the ignition, due to the cylindrical one closing and cutting off the fuel.
So, can anyone throw any light on this strange fault?: Is my diagnosis/theory/guess about a second solenoid correct?
Also, the old type cylindrical stop-solenoid must be open, otherwise it wouldn't get any fuel through and so it wouldn't run. But there is no feed to it, so it must be either stuck open or somebody has removed the plunger, so it needs to be replaced. But then it won't start because the new one will stay shut unless I find out why there is no feed to it. Any suggestions on this?
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Peter.N.

If its the same one that Citroen use the solonoid and module are behind a steel cover which is secured with tamperproof screws. To get to it you will have to remove the pump and then use some brute force . I have not done one myself but if you look on the 'french car forum' there are one or two that have done it on a Xantia. It might be easier to fit a secondhand pump.

aeroturbo

I've got a 65.000 mile MX-5 I've owned for 5 years. Previously (say 10,000 miles ago) I had a intermittant failure of 1 of the 2 coils when it would run on 2 cylinders from time to time. Replacement of that single coil solved it, but I also changed the HT leads and plugs prior to the coil.

I've never had any other engine problem with this car until recently. Symptoms have varied a bit, but there is a sort of pattern. Generally it will fire and start, but it will either stop within a few revs, or idle and hesitate every few seconds, and then stop, or idle OK for longer, hesitating occasionally, and then stop, or it might run perfectly. If it decides to run, I can drive it and have driven it for 10-20 miles without a problem until I try to start it again. It does not seem to be any different when hot or cold, except that it seems less problematic starting if it had just been running OK. So it seems a bit different from the other threads here.

When it does stop this way, it makes an unusual sound rather like a rattling relay or mechanical valve which seems to be coming from the front of the inlet manifold area. When it stops by switching it off normally (by switching off with the ignition key), this sound does not occur.

I've asked lots of local garages for help and suggestions. Generally I was advised to look for electrical connector problems. I have removed, dried, re-connected and sealed every engine-related connector I can find in the engine bay apart from those at the bottom of the coils (lazy me, they are difficult to access) but I didn't believe they could be the problem as it either runs or doesn't run, never running on 2 cylinders. Sometimes after doing one I've tried it and it started OK and I thought I'd solved it. Sometimes I could stop it and restart it OK, but on leaving it a few minutes the problem has come back, so clearly it was a red herring. This has happened several times so I no longer think any of these was problem.

I have a fuel pressure guage fitted to the injector gallery and know that my fuel pressure is OK.

I have removed the ECU from the footwell and found it dry and not corroded in any way.

In desperation I took it (it started and drove on that occasion) to a local garage earlier this week, which has a range of engine diagnostic computers as they do rally tuning. They failed to find any fault (apart from seeing it perform its new tricks). They had the computers on its diagnostic port and diagnostic oscilloscope on various sensors and reckon they saw normal waveforms. They believed it is the ECU but were unable to test it. For 4 hours of failed diagnostic work I got charged £230. Ouch!

My local Mazda dealer offered little hope here, saying they could not test the ECU, and replacement for a test is difficult as the ECU is linked to the immobiliser and they had an MX-5 that had been in there for 7 weeks with an ECU problem that they couldn't solve! They suggest leaving it until the car fails to start at all, thus making it easier to find (they hope). So I've avoided taking it to them at least at the moment.

The previous owner fitted a Cobra Thatcham 1 immobiliser which might be the problem I suppose, although I doubt it. Circumstantial evidence here is that the passenger door central locking has not been working for about a year and it is a signal problem because I've tested the door solenoid and it works fine. However since it went to the garage I've noticed that the central locking causes this door to lock, but won't open it still. The driver door locking works fine. They claimed not to have touched the immobiliser, so maybe that's another red herring.

As a final piece of information, I fitted a Jackson Racing supercharger to it soon after I bought it which has been faultless (and extremely good fun!) and is believed not to be part of the current problem.

From other threads I see that replacing a "coil pack" might be a sensible move in view of comments in one thread about one coil affecting the other one. Given that I replaced one coil as mentioned above, what does this mean? Both of the coils situated right at the back of the engine next to the firewall, or something else?

Usually, when it is being troublesome which is maybe 95% of the times I try to start it, if I open the throttle with it idling, it will stop immediately, although sometimes it picks up a few 000 revs whilst coughing, barking and backfiring badly. When it stops on its own from idling, there is sometimes a slight backfire.

Before I go out to do some random chequebook engineering, can anyone please help with these symptoms?

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aeroturbo

Well, I think the problem is solved.

First I de-activated the immobiliser. Cobra gave me some phone help with this, and whilst this has de-activated the central locking as well, I can live with that for now. However the car didn't run properly after doing that, so I suspect it wasn't the problem.

I decided not to sample the fuel. I'm sure it wasn't contaminated fuel as you would expect that to be worse after standing as any water would settle to the low points. It is presently running OK - it started and ran OK this morning after standing in my drive for 2 days.

What did I do? Well I remembered that the garage had said that they found no signal from the throttle position sensor once, but then they did get a signal reliably so presumed it was OK and they had made a mistake. This was when it was running better than it had been afterwards when I posted the message here. So on Monday I removed it, but found it is sealed so I couldn't get inside it. So I very thoroughly and carefully cleaned the contacts and put it back. The result is it has started and run perfectly each time I've tried it since. I'll need a bit more experience to be 100% convinced it was the problem, but I've got fingers crossed.

Really frustrating problem! I have sympathy with people trouble shooting modern cars. Thanks for your help, all.

Stuart

dalo

Last night during violent hailstorm alarm sounded briefly; thought it was something down the street. Went to car this morning anf ALL windows fully down and car interior soaked. No error message on display. No sign of forced entry. Car going in on Monday. Any ideas about problem. Had alarm problem 6 months ago. Dealer removed error message. Read more

dalo

Ford dealer said no fault codes, couldn't find any faults. Claimed we had probably activated the auto open when turning off alarm. This was not possible as remote was downstairs and we were in bed. Alarm turned off on without any action my us.

Where do we go from here? There is obviously evidence off this happenning (see HJs car by car report) but Ford are denying that it is happenning. (or at least being reported.)

ChrisJ_UK

Our 1.4tdci wouldn't start after having been left overnight. I checked that there were no lights or electrics left on and it seems that nothing was. We jumped it and got it back home but the headlights appeared dim and the battery light was still on after five minutes of running the engine above tickover.

I checked the voltage across the battery with the engine running but it was only 9.5V making me thing that there is a problem with the charging system. I'd went to check the hand book but then remembered that I'd found it in the spare wheel well soaked with water and basically a solid block of paper . So I checked my Haynes only to find out after reading half the book that it was for our old R reg fiesta not this one.

Any ideas what I should check next? Battery terminals appear to be fixed ok. Is it easy to check continuity between the battery and the alternator? Remember I don't have access to diagrams to see where items like the terminals on the alternators are.

Any help appreciated.
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bell boy

you shouldnt jump start any modern car especially with a totally flat battery
you should take battery off recharge or replace
put back on car and do a load charge test of the alternator by either turning everything on or using a special tool
im not sure if your car has smart charge fitted but if it has then you may be in for a big bill to sort your error

good luck...........

farreca

HI

The engine management light came on the other evening and I got DTC 9318 from the odometer on the dash.
Can this code cause the engine management light to come on or could there be something else causing it? Don't really want to go to a dealership and pay them 65 just to tell me I need a new battery.

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injection doc

DTC 9318 is low battery voltage recorded. Ypou may of just had a low battery at some point. Find an indy who can plug in & check the diagnostics for you.
have you had battery issues? or alternator problems?

M.M

Next car to come onto our radar is a 2007 Fabia (newer shape) 1.4TDi 5dr. I wonder if anyone has experience of these? All I've really found on a site search is someone who found the ride was so hard they traded it back in... that might be an issue for us if true. Read more

Avant

Interesting, as coincidentally I drove a mark 2 Fabia for the first time today - a loan car, a 1.2 petrol, while the Octavia was in for its first service (those of you who know Skodas won't be surprised to know that there were no extra problems at all).

I'm not one of those who makes a fuss about what size of loan car I'm given - I'm happy to take what's there. But I did wonder if the 3-cylinder 1.2 engine would be a litle sluggish in the Fabia, which is bigger than most other superminis.

Far from it - very lively stepping off from rest and there was even something still in reserve at 70 mph. Comfortable - seats and steering wheel could be adjusted to suita anyone - and the compromose between ride and handling (a little biased towards a comfortable ride) was fine for the sort of car it is and the use it'll be put to.

Worth putting on anyone's shortlist unless, like Mrs MM, you just don't like the look of it (which is of course fair enough - thank the Lord we live in a free country).

Well done Jewsons of Oxford - a very pleasant experience today, not least as the vRS is on free servicing for 3 years / 30,000 miles!

Lucas1.2

When I take the key out of the ignition the engine warning light and oil light come on and do not go away. They are not on when the engine is on. I have checked oil and think it may have something to do with the ECU?

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Lucas1.2

Hi so i just reset the battery and turned the ignition on and off and they have gone :D

Cheers for the advice.

RubberduckRubberduck

Hi there

My Mondeo Mk2 (2000) is giving me a bit a grief so hopefully somebody on here can help.
On Sunday night, I had travelled about 4 miles, I was quite close to home when the engine (1.8L) cut-out and refused to start again. I have had no problems before that. The engine turns over but won?t fire

This is what I have done so far:
Checked the fuel pump, it is priming
Checked there is fuel getting into the cylinders (wet plugs and vapour when plugs are out)
There is no spark (plugs out and earthed, cranked engine)
I checked the coil and it had no continuity between 1 and 4, 2 and 3 are ok, so I?ve replace the coil. Still nothing
I have checked all the fuses, they?re fine
The alarm/immobiliser seems to be behaving itself. Red light flashes as it states in the handbook when arming / disarming
I?ve checked the crank sensor, resistance as per manual, and it increases when cranking. I?ve also checking continuity back to the ECU connector
I?ve checked the feed to the coil (3 wire connector). With ignition on, its 12v on the centre cable and 0v on the outer ones. When cranking the centre cable drops to 9.5v but still nothing on the outer 2. So it looks like it isn?t getting a signal from the ECU. I have checked the continuity back to the ECU connector and that?s ok for both the outer cables
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eddiemax28

i have the same problem on my mondeo 1.8 16v blacktop zetec, i checked evary thing and still no spark

MikeMyers

Doe's anyone know if this is a development of the old 1.7 diesel engine, or is it a completely new engine ? I've been trying work out if the engine is a cambelt or chain.

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Faxo

Are we talking about the Astra H or the Astra J (the new new one)?

The EcoFlex is the latest version of the 1.7 CDTi, this is the same 1.7 engine just with some fancy bits added on! Its still a timing belt, and the oil pumps will still leak after 60k!