May 2023

pugnacious

Hey all, first time poster. Apologies if this is a repost, forum search didn't help.

We bought a 2015 "Style" (1.2 VTI) from a dealer last week for my daughter to drive. All seemed good,car drove well on the test drive, documentation was good, a basic OBD scan by me showed no OBD-based faults. So we bought it.

On the drive home, the dashboard EPS fault light illuminated, and the infotainment screen then popped up to tell me I had an ESP& ASR fault, and then a "steering system faulty" message. Not good. Steering was still possible, but heavy and unpowered. I pulled over and killed the ignition, checked for punctures and fluid leaks- nothing obvious to see, but on restarting the engine to drive on, the issue had gone- no lights, steering was back. Strange. I phoned the supplying dealer and let them know that evening, and they promised to honour the warranty; all I needed to do was get it fixed and they'd foot the bill, they said.

The fault persists but is intermittent. Its been driven every day in the week owned it, and for 5 out of these 7 the fault appeared. The 'cure' still works. Tyre pressures and fluid levels are all bang on.

There's an independent Pug/Citroen specialist near me, so I dropped it in there for diagnostics yesterday and they noted 2 stored codes:
-C1638 (estimation of steering wheel angle- consistency)
-C1135 (steering wheel angle sensor signal from s.w angle estimator or s.w controls- internal)

They cleared these, recalibrated the angle sensor, & checked for wiring faults. Ominously, they warned me that if it popped up again their recommendation would be for a new EPS/rack unit to be fitted, as these faults indicate an impending failure in that area. These are different from my old 207s, which had the motor/pump separate to the rack- on the 208 its all amalgamate and costs a serious amount of money....£1900!!! With labour involved (subframe off etc), that would mean about £2500 all in.
And unfortunately, the issue recurred on the way home from their premises... :/

So, at the moment I have 2 options: challenge the dealer on their pledge to repair this, or reject the car. Probably the latter if I'm honest. For the former, I cant see them sanctioning a full repair and billing them back at that price, even though they said they would. Apart from this, its a really nice car unfortunately.

2 questions off the back of this that I hoped some of the minds here could answer:

1)Is this a common thing? I had hoped to leave the EPS issues behind with my last 207
2)Is a new rack/EPS unit at £2k from Peugeot my only option? Are there any refurb or similar manufacturers out there, to maybe try and lower the cost?

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Brit_in_Germany

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Hi there,

I'm just looking for some advice.

I purchased a Toyota over 3 years a go second hand from a reputable dealer. I'm now looking to sell it and ran a HPI check on it and it's come with a warning regarding a milage issue.

The issue is below, where 2,189 miles have been "lost" during this 6 day period in 2016 on the extended miles record report.

06/05/16 - 17,189
12/05/16 - 15,000

This milage discrepancy doesn't show on the MOT history.

Any advice on what to do? I can't be bothered to take it back to the dealer because of 2,189 missing miles, I'm not sure it's worth the time and admin. They should have property checked it but I have better things to be spending my energy on. The car isn't worth great deal either in the condition it's in, it's seen better days over the past 3 years so I'd be lucky to get anywhere near £3k

I'm wondering if its possible that an incorrect number has been entered on a report at some stage. 15,000 seems very exact!

I guess what advice I would like is how I go about advertising it for sale with this known issue. I obviously know about it so I guess I need to be upfront. It's frustrating as I'm worried this will put off potential buyers.

I'm assuming there's no UK law selling a clocked car as long as I'm honest about it so I can be transparent as I like?

Has anybody else had to sell a clocked car? How did you go about it?

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SLO76

Should’ve added to my wee clocking rant that a small discrepancy like this is much more likely to be a simple mistake. If it was 3/4yrs old when it happened and it had been 10k or so I’d say it had been wound back (digital mileage “correction”) to avoid fees when returning it on a PCP or contract lease. This is very common, but with just 2,000 miles the fees wouldn’t be more than the cost and hassle of clocking it.