February 2007
Recently there have been several threads with people saying 'never again' about various manufacturers, and there's also a thread going about VAG which basically says 'why buy an Audi when a Skoda is the same'.
Even Honda and Toyota have even come in for some barbed comments.
So, looking at new cars, which manufacturer (and its dealer network) is considered good these days? Read more
This is an article taken from Todays AOL News section. I thought it may be of interest to those of the Backroom who do not have AOL.
Mike Rutherfords
Premiership champions
If there were football-style league tables for the world's car makers, a few huge and prestigious manufacturers would currently be staring relegation in the face.
I'm thinking of companies such as the once-great Jeep, which was last week named by Warranty Direct as the maker of cars that develop the most failures. Also, I'm sorry to say that I've got Ford in mind - not because its products are in poor shape, but because its crucially important finances are.
Within the past few days, it has been revealed that Uncle Henry lost an average of over $1billion a month during the last full financial year. And there's also the little matter of the crippling $20-odd billion mortgage the firm has recently had to take out to help keep itself afloat. Jaguar, Ford's deeply troubled daughter company, is also a candidate for relegation - at least until the desperately needed replacement for the S-Type appears in showrooms.
And unless a cash-rich buyer can be found for Aston Martin (yet another member of the troubled Ford stable) the future for this tiny but legendary and important British company looks worryingly uncertain. Especially if such a buyer isn't found and Ford is forced to concede, with some justification, that it just can't afford to keep Aston going any longer. Mind you, the possible demotion to lower leagues currently being faced by the likes of Jeep, Ford, Jag and Aston are nothing (they can always bounce back!) compared with the plight of other firms and their now defunct British factories.
At the minute, MG Rover and TVR would happily settle for relegation all the way to the very bottom of the table in the lowest possible league on the basis that things could only get better. But sadly, they might have to come to terms with extinction instead. The global car manufacturing game simply isn't big enough for all the international players that want to take part in it.
Although it's a real tragedy for England that first MG Rover and now TVR are going through near-death experiences the rest of the planet generally doesn't care. The fact is, there are simply too many cars and car makers chasing too few customers.
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On a more positive note, who'd have thought that Hyundai and sister company Kia would come from nowhere to secure positions as newly promoted members of the premier league? They may not be glamorous, but nobody can question their massive improvements in product design and build quality; their highly successful diversification into the fiercely competitive four-wheel-drive sector; and their industry-beating warranties - five years unlimited mileage on all Hyundais, plus eight years (with limitations) on the Kia Cee'd.
Back from the dead Mini now deserves a place in the top flight and would move further up the premiership if only it could iron out its niggly but damaging build-quality issues. Citroën is a firm that, starting from an admittedly low base, continues to win promotion to higher leagues at an impressively quick rate thanks to a combination of industry-leading prices, brilliant designs and much-improved quality. This was confirmed by last week's Warranty Direct report that claimed that the French firm has moved to 10th best in the world.
Skoda has a similar no-nonsense, value-for-money approach and deserves credit - if not promotion - for that. And if one of the most intriguing, eagerly awaited cars of the year - the Fiat 500 - is as good as it's expected to be later this year, the Italian firm that makes it will deservedly receive its biggest boost since the glory days of the original Panda and Uno.
Closer to the top of the rankings, Mazda and Honda are taking over from Toyota/Lexus as the makers of the most reliable cars. Nissan is another Japanese firm that impresses me - not least because it is building the sort of reliable, desirable 4X4s that Jeep used to make. Having dropped out of the premier league in the recent past due to silly but wholly unacceptable quality problems, Volkswagen is back in. And sister company Audi is, for the time being at least, at the very top.
The eagerly awaited and much-hyped 187mph R8 can be largely thanked for that. Frankly, I'm staggered that the company's first proper, mid-engined supercar is as good as it is.
In a few departments (non-manual transmissions, price, storage space) it's worse than a 911. In others (sheer driving pleasure, build quality, desirability) it's equal to the rival Porsche. And in plenty of other categories (power, top speed, looks, noise, street cred and more) it's better.
Equally important is the fact that Audi is just about the ultimate automotive brand today. People who've never owned a supercar before but find themselves lucky enough to afford one may well go for the 911 they've dreamt of owning since childhood. But anyone who's had such a car in the past and experienced the downside of driving a motor with such a provocative, some might say slightly naff, badge will welcome the subtlety, grace and understated charm of the less offensive Audi R8.
The fact that it's very nearly as good as the long-in-the-tooth 911 from day one and will undoubtedly get better as it evolves and adopts other engine options (including a gutsy diesel) is the icing on the cake.
We're barely into 2007, but the Audi R8 already looks set to become the supercar of the year... and, possibly, the decade.
RIP Porsche and the 911. Every dog has its day. Even those with the right pedigree.
Mike Rutherford is a freelance writer, broadcaster and pro-car activist. Currently writing weekly columns for The Daily Telegraph and Auto Express, and monthly columns for The Independent and Motoring & Leisure, he also presents Pulling Power on ITV.
billy
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Hi I found the following thread from 2004 on google and wondered if anyone had used Chorlton VW since this time and whether this company is now based in Sale and if anyone has good/bad things to say about it. I'm planning on taking my Golf GTi there for a Cam Belt Change and a service and as I've never gone to anyone but authorised repairer previously want some kind of referral.
Any help would be really gratefully accepted.
Sophie
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Independant Audi service in Manchester - robert Sat 11 Sep 04 16:37
Hi,
Do any of you have any tips for independant servicing of Audi's in the Manchester area.
Pal has a'99 A6 V6 2.4 which is now costing silly money to get serviced by a franhised dealer.
In anticipation.
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Independant Audi service in Manchester - Jonathan {p} Sat 11 Sep 04 17:06
A former colleague of mine used to take his beloved golf gti here and he reckoned they were good.
Chorlton Volkswagen Audi
Tel: 0161 881 0258
213b, Upper Chorlton Rd, Manchester, Lancashire M16 0BH
Regards
Jonathan
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I've been running an 1.8 04 Toyota Avensis for a year now. I deliberately bought a jap car after all the reliability issues and ropey build quality I had with my last two cars (Ford and Vauxhall).
However although I like the car it seems to be a bigger lemon than my old Omega - which is fairly suprising. With under 20k on the clock this car has had:
1) 1 major recall (steering defect)
2) 2 new headlights
3) 1 new clutch master cylinder
4) New windscreen and front door seals
5) 3 visits to the main dealer to rectify a high pitched screech at motorway speeds (as yet this is not fixed)
And now I've just read that the 1.8 vvti (mine!) is likely to start burning oil at a horrendous rate!
I know cars can be the luck of the draw, but so far I'm pretty disappointed with the Toyota experience -anyone else had smilar experiences?
BTW - I have to admit - the local dealer has been most helpful and polite!
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My Yaris is Japan built. I'll let you all know when anything goes wrong...I hope not to have to post for a very long time cos I expect it to last for at least 15 years...
madf
Set your alarms an hour early to allow for the combination of local authorities who do nothing to prepare and drivers who go into a panic at the sight of a snowflake.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6338151.stm
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There is method in this "close the schools" madness.
All in all, traffic levels were WAY down, and hence the chaos largely didnt happen.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Figures released yesterday reveal the number of deaths in road accidents in France during January was up nearly 14 per cent on the same month in 2006. This follows a year in which road deaths were said to have fallen.
The explanation given in the French media is that people may be driving more carelessly at the moment because it is traditional in France to grant an amnesty on traffic offences immediately after a new president is elected, and one is due this spring.
So beware if you are driving over here between now and May.
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hi, i have a citroen zx 1.9td volcane. The problem i have with it is when your going about 30 mph plus and you go round a right hand bend the front of the car seems to dig in and pull you severely to that side, it's quite scary as i nearly lost the car twice on a bend. i have checked underneath and can't seem to see anything adrift!! can you help??? some one said possible wheel bearing or ball joint?? Read more
hi, yes best if i do i will take it down the garage tomorrow! thanks for your response.
hi, i have a problem with the brakes on my vectra. its a 2.0 16v, sri 140.. 1998 They seem to operate normally half the time, and the other half it is like the servo has gone (very hard brake pedal) although step on it hard enough, it will still stop you. is this going to be expensive??? your thoughts appreciated!!
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Petitions? PAH - Old hat,
there is a now a UK radical Motoring terrorist group.
CApita (congestion charge) - Letter bomb
Vantis - (speed camera makers accountants) letter bomb
and now today
The DVLA - letter bomb.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6338003.stm
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Police not hounding motorists? Try New Zealand ! Here,
the police issuance of speeding tickets NOT in areas where a
few km over the limit was a danger eventually gave the
police as a whole such a bad name that the Government
was forced to admit that the Police Commissioner's contract included that
he would ensure that x-thousand speeding rickets were issued each year.
Like all left-wing Governments, they need the money. However,
such was the outcry that there is now a replacement Commissioner
and Minister of Police. Said replacement Minister claims that first
priority is to regain public confidence in the Police.
there needs to be a public outcry over here then doesn't there.......we're too polite about all this.........the French wouldn't stand for blatant taxation in the form of a speed camera
no one would really mind a few more traffic officers, who could target those at the worst end of the spectrum
however what we don't need is some cretin blowing people up
Copied from DVLA Site
PLEASE BE AWARE, DUE TO A TECHNICAL PROBLEM, IF YOU ARE PURCHASING A 6 MONTH TAX DISC, THIS MAY TAKE 10 DAYS TO BE DELIVERED. 12 MONTH TAX DISCS ARE UNAFFECTED BY THIS ISSUE.
PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DRIVE OR PARK YOUR VEHICLE ON A PUBLIC HIGHWAY WITHOUT DISPLAYING A VALID TAX DISC.
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