November 2002

Rob C

I have a curious urge to strip down my old Series III and do various restoration things, but if I strip the paint and polish the aluminium (or aluminum for the Americans) how long will it last, and will it end up looking like an old saucepan? Read more

Dave_TD

I was only teasing...

I'm surprised no-one's poked fun at MY choice of car on here yet...

Diesel nutter

Having recently purchased a Toyota Avensis Diesel at auction, I am now wondering about main dealer servicing. Its nearly ready for its first service (at 10000miles) and is just over six months old (02reg). Im reluctant to take it to the local Toyota dealer for a 'service' that amounts to no more than using an unsuitable oil! but I wonder if I need that genuine dealer stamp for the 3 year warranty? Im getting conflicting advice, some people think I do whereas others say its illegal to make you go to a dealer for servicing. What to do?

Many thanks

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Blue {P}

So long as you can prove that wherever you take it follows the same servicing procedure as Toyota specify then they must still honour the warrenty. AFAIK.

What;s this about an unsuitable oil? You mean the dealer has a "reputation"? If so, why not take it to a different Toyota dealer? Best of both worlds that way...

Martyn [(ex) BR moderator]

I agree with Mark. Where there is legal action, we have to distance the forum and the site from it. Mark will remove the thread on Wednesday morning.
 
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Question Rusty bolts
cos

I have recently found an excellent solution for rusted on bolts , ie exhaust and suspension, it is coca cola. It works far better than the so called market leading deceasers. Anyone agree? comments? Read more

Mondaywoe

Funny you should say that! There was an article in our local press a few days ago about some guy who was trying to get an old Merc back on the road after being laid up for 18 years or so. The engine had seized solid and after many desperate but unsuccessful attempts at freeing it off with WD40 etc, he poured a can of Coke into the plug holes and left overnight..........

Next morning? Turned over beautifully! Looks like you might be right!

Not sure if Diet Coke makes any difference......

Graeme.

andymc {P}

I was looking at a used Merc and decided to get a history check carried out on it through a well known motoring organisation. Cost £35 and the confirmation paperwork arrived in the post today, which said it was clean. There was a disclaimer that the information was not guaranteed outside of mainland Britain, ie not Northern Ireland (where I live) or the Channel Isles, etc.
Why should this be? Is this standard practice across all such organisations, - AA, HPI, What Car, etc?

Didn't buy the Merc, btw - looked like it had been repaired after an accident, although nothing was recorded in the data check so probably didn't go through insurance. Nail in the coffin was that it had had a new fuel pump after just 90000 miles - probably a thanks to lots of bleached red diesel, if so injectors will be next. Also, 3 new tyres seemed a bit odd - why not two, or four? Or is that reasonable in an 8-year old car?

Incidentally, from this site I had printed out the list of standard things to check on a used car and having that to hand was very useful indeed, so thanks for the help HJ. Now about to check out a 6-year old 525 TD, asking price £3950, with same! Read more

madf

Save money on checks: use the internet. Cheaper than phone.

UK checks do NOT cover Eire or non UK.. or even at times N Ireland (my son bought one ex NI.. no history at all)




madf

tpac

I run a 22 car driving school, most of my cars are Vauxhall Corsas, of which on the whole are good and reliable but the one I am about to tell you about is worrying me now! It is a long and drawn out story, but I feel if I cut it short you will not get the full picture. Here goes..... please help!

On Sept 1st I took delivery of 2 new Corsa comforts, all was well and good until..

16th October, the car had a red light come on and felt as if it was running on 1 cylinder (This was one of my instructors reporting this), the car went back to the dealers and we awaited there response.
The car came back 24 hours later, all good until the next day..
17th October, the same thing happened again and the car went back into the dealers.
Again it came out after just 2 hours, we felt confident...
19th October, it happened again!! The dealer changed the ECU and asked what fuel we were using, we told them it was a good make, but they said NO, dont use that....use this brand! I thought that can not be right for them to dictate a fuel brand but nether the less told my member of staff to use what they said. Anyhow, 3 days later we get the car back!! New ECU fitted.
22nd October, the car had been on the road a matter of hours and yep.... you guessed it, it went again!!!! Within 2 hours the car was back on the road.
24TH October, (wow it lasted 2 days) It went yet agian, I was spitting blood along with my member of staff! The car was off the road (bearing in mind every hour off the rd is £17) for 4 DAYS, they said they gave it a decoke, and it was quite coked up.
They were being guided by Vauxhall technical department all the time, I could not understand why a car that had covered 4000 miles and was 6 weeks old needed a decoke!
At this point I had seeked legal advice, and mentioned reteurning the car under the sales of goods act... they were not interested.
28TH October, we got the car back, it lasted a day then had to go back in for the same problem. At this point Vauxhalls agreed to hire us a dual controlled car to stop us losing money. The dealer had the car for a whole week, they replaced the wiring loom, a relay and I beleive the fuel pump.
3rd November the car comes back.
4th November same again the car goes back in, the dealer and Vauxhalls are both well and truly stumped, the only thing they could do is to start replacing parts that had already been done starting with another ECU.
They had the car for over 2 weeks, although it was ready after 4 days they stated they did not want to give the car back until they had carried out extensive road tests. They covered 300 miles in the 2 weeks.... that is 2 days work for us, so really the 300 miles covered were of no value to us.
Anyway, this weekend we get this car back (forgot what it looked like), only to find last night after my member of staff had covered 350 miles its gone again!
I dumped it at the dealers this morning and stated that under the sales of good act 1979 I did not want the car back. Initially they agreed and were very sympathetic, but this afternoon they ring me and say "change of plan"!! Vauxhalls want the car to be taken to Luton to carry out further tests.... you can guess I was not happy. Since this started 35 days ago, we have had the car for approx 5 days and taken it back at least 9 times for the same fault. They stated this afternoon that if they were to exchange it I would not be allowed the full value I paid for the car because it had covered 5000 miles.... WHAT who's fault is this??
I need to put a letter into the dealer tonight, stating I dont want the car back, can you PLEASE help and advise me how to word this letter so I get my point across?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, but the letter must go in tonight.
Thanks in advance.
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tpac

Well thanks very much to you all, last week we took delivery of a bran new Corsa Elegance in replacemant of our old Corsa Comfort! The Comfort was no longer available so poor old Vauxhalls had no choice but to go up one grade to the Elegance, we acheived a CD player over a cassette, and a better interior trim. Also unfortunatly for Vauxhalls the only car that was kicking around ready to go was a metalic, our old one was a solid colour so we also gained metalic FOC!!
My dealer is now fighting my corner for some compensation, so I will wait to hear the outcome of that!
Thanks all.

prokon

Mine's has to be a three year old lada i had about twelve years ago, only paid £280 for it, never gave me any trouble and sold it 18 months later for £350.
i have to admit i actually liked driveing it, is that sad or what. Read more

keeef

If you want a photo of a Wolseley Six, just Google 'wolseley six'.

I was referring to PB's Six, not just any old one. :(

teabelly

At the exit of my workplace there is an odd roundabout. There is a filter lane to the left to join the main road north bound. The two lanes straight ahead are both marked right turn(2nd roundabout exit) where the rightmost lane of the two filters back within 20 yards of being on the main road going southbound. Most people seem to queue in the right hand lane and a few whizz down the left and go round while gaining looks of disapproval of those sitting in the right hand lane queuing, unless they get held up by a bus in which case they sit there looking smug. Traffic from the left sometimes decides to filter onto the roundabout when a right lane traveller has joined the roundabout and is about to exit where the lanes go back into one. As you can imagine the roundabout can be a little fraught! I don't understand why someone has designed the roundabout with two lanes going straight into a single carriageway when it is a pretty small roundabout so there is no room to filter properly when traffic is heavy and it seems to cause lots of horn beeping.





I used to always choose the left hand lane as I was taking the second exit in effect but with the bulk of users being in the right hand lane should I be a sheep and use that lane instead? The left hand lane is also easier to negotiate as you don't have to bother trying to filter back in but there is the risk from right lane choosers who take exception to you 'queue jumping'. Any opinions on the safest way to negotiate this roundabout?
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SteveH42

Although the Highway Code and Roadcraft lay down specific
guidelines for negotiating roundabouts, it is often safer to
follow 'Local Rules', and do what the majority do.


The trouble is that sometimes following the majority means that this gets perpetuated and there is no chance of 'correct' behaviour becoming the norm.

A classic example here is the M60/M67 Denton Interchange. Coming from Stockport direction the roundabout lane markings have changed since the M60 was opened fully, yet most drivers still carry on using the roundabout the way it used to be set up and as a result you have to follow suit or have an accident.

There are 3 lanes approaching the roundabout. One is left only, the other two are marked 'A57' and 'M67'. The exits are A57 Manchester bound, M60 North, A57/M67 (which I'll explain later) and M60 South. The confusion is that the A57/M67 exit is a 3 lane exit which splits not long after the exit itself. The left lane is A57 only, the middle lane is A57 or M67 and the right is M67 only.

What happens when joining the roundabout is that the middle (A57) lane becomes the centre lane and the right lane becomes the inside lane. There are lights on all entrances to the roundabout. As you pass the A57 (from Manchester) entrance, the left lane filters off to the M60 North, the middle lane is shown as filtering over to the left for the A57 and the right lane is shown as filtering over to the middle for the M67. The right lane now becomes M60 South.

This is where the trouble happens. Very few people in the middle lane filter to the left as indicated, so people in the right lane either can't or daren't filter in to the middle lane. The *reason* very few people filter over to the left is that most people take one look at the queues on the slip road and join the (quieter) A57 lane even though they are intending to join the M67. So those of us who use the correct lanes end up having to exit a 3 lane roundabout from the inside lane - certainly not the recommended method!

This sort of thing seems to be common in this area - the Portwood roundabout in Stockport is another one where a lot of drivers use the quietest lane rather than the correct lane and you have to be careful what you are doing on the roundabout to compensate....

How would fault be assigned in an accident in these circumstances? (Not that I'm intending to have one, but I'm amazed there aren't 2 or 3 a day with some of the driving you see!)
NabLane

There's a reputable vehicle wholesale company (I'll not mention the name for the time being) offering brand-new old-shape Vectra 1.8LS 5dr hatches with metallic & air-con for £8100 OTR inc. road-tax.

I presently own an aging Vectra 1996/P 2.0GLS 16V 5dr with 67,000 miles. A trade-in value has been offered at £2100 for my car, which I think is pretty good.

Question is, is it worth buying an old-shape model (I can't see how it can be worth paying £6000 more for the new-shape over the older model?) with the new one out? Read more

NabLane

I think you're probably right on both counts. Looking at present book values for the old-shape Vectra, the new car looks a bargain, but I suppose when the NEW Vectra arrives on trade forecourts in a years time, they probably won't be selling for much more than 8 or 9 grand, if that.

The reason why I thought of the most boring of Vectra specs (LS) is that I use my car frequently for business motorway miles and after my present car took a severe rear-end last January, I thought that to buy a car with a better image for more money may be a waste if it ends up having nearly £3000 worth of repairs done to it!

Thanks for both replies - I think I'll stick with what I have for another year or so.

Mark (RLBS)

FiF,

Will they fit an Omega estate ?

M. Read more

Mark (RLBS)

I sail, so the RNLI is cool.

I will dispatch a sum of money tomorrow.