Loss of no claims - johnnyrev

I wonder if anyone has any words of wisdom with my issue with my insurance renewal which has more than doubled. A car with a cloned plate hit me last year and the claim has gone down as a fault claim because the insurance company have nobody to claim against. Consequently my no claims discount has gone from 10 years to 4.

My ongoing debate with the insurance company is that they have an ‘uninsured driver promise’ which they won’t invoke because they cannot say for sure that they offending driver was uninsured because they don’t have his details.

The wording of the ‘uninsured driver promise’ is quite wooly (I’m sure you can find it via a quick internet search). For example it says to get the uninsured drivers details ‘where possible’ and doesn’t state this as a condition for upholding the promise.

Also, am I correct in saying that by definition a driver of a cloned car will not be insured? What policy would cover someone to drive a car on false plates? My policy allows me to drive other cars, but with strict conditions.

Having said all of that, is it worth my while pursuing a complaint with the insurance company?Are they just going to stick to their guns? I’ve lodged a formal complaint with them and am hoping for a reply in a day or two.

My stubborn nature wants me to carry on and get my insurance costs down, but my realism tells me to suck it up and find a slightly less expensive quote elsewhere. What do you all think?

Loss of no claims - leaseman

If they don't uphold your complaint, I would suggest that the Insurance Ombudsman is your next port of call, though, I'm afraid, I have no experience of such a procedure.

Loss of no claims - daveyjp

Doubled premium market wide or just with your existing company? If only your own company renewal shop around, then decide if you want to go through formal complaint.

Loss of no claims - johnnyrev

Doubled premium market wide or just with your existing company? If only your own company renewal shop around, then decide if you want to go through formal complaint.

Yes, pretty much. On the comparison sites up from £40 a month to £70.

Edited by johnnyrev on 11/05/2025 at 20:05

Loss of no claims - gordonbennet

Never been in this actual situation, but as above if no joy from the insurer i too would be seeking out the Ombudsman, nit picking like this isn't right.

Whatever happens would you please update us and if you don't mind please name the insurer so we know which company to avoid, i've never gone anywhere near Norwich Union or whatever its called now following unfair treatment, and sarcasm from their operative on the phone, some 40 odd years ago.

Edited by gordonbennet on 11/05/2025 at 20:47

Loss of no claims - daveyjp

But who do they claim against? An uninsured driver can be taken to Court and claims made.

I have been in this situation, but 25 years ago. Car parked outside a restaurant, car was reversing into a gap behind and another speeding car hit it causing damaged to mine and other vehicles.

Driver and passengers in other car scarpered and were never found. Car had plates, but were cloned from a car owned by someone who didn't live far from me. Her car was parked up untouched.

Intried MIB, but as I had fully comp it was down to me to claim against my policy.

Loss of no claims - johnnyrev

The company is Hastings. Here is the Uninsured Driver Promise:

Uninsured driver promise

Your insurer promises that if you are involved in an accident that isn't your fault and the driver of the vehicle that hits you doesn't have motor insurance:

  • You won't lose your no claims discount
  • You won't have to pay any excess/es.

To benefit from this promise you must send us the make, model and registration number of the vehicle that caused damage to your car and, when possible, tell us the other driver's name and address.

When you make a claim, you may initially have to pay your excess/es. If investigations are still taking place when your renewal is due, you may lose your no claims discount temporarily, as explained above. Once your insurer has confirmed the accident was the fault of an identified uninsured driver, your insurer will refund your excess, restore your no claims discount and refund any extra premium you have paid.

Note that it says ‘identified uninsured driver’, which could mean the uninsured driver is identified, or more likely, that the driver is identified as having no insurance.

Loss of no claims - bathtub tom

Insurance companies will avoid paying out whenever they can. Family I know were told to evacuate their home when one nearby blew up. They were about to go on holiday and as a result couldn't access passports, cases, clothing etc. Insurance said it didn't cover that scenario!

Loss of no claims - Andrew-T

... am I correct in saying that by definition a driver of a cloned car will not be insured? What policy would cover someone to drive a car on false plates?

I would think that as the motor insurance system is all interconnected, it should prevent duplication of insurance for any given registration ? It seems unlikely that the driver of a cloned vehicle would be interested in getting insurance anyway :-)

Loss of no claims - gordonbennet

Thanks for highlighting the company, one i already avoid.

Interesting small print about the 'identified' uninsured driver, one would expect those without insurance or other illegal drivers to hit and run anyway, eitheri n the vehicle or on foot either of which will almost certainly result in them never being found therefore not identified.