August 2007
There was a thread on here a few weeks ago about fitting aftermarket Xenons to a motorbike. I am not wanting to start any debate but because we were all trying to interpret the DfT regulations I thought I would ask them direct. So after many weeks they finally replied.
Basically without auto headlamp height adjustment and washers then this is not legal. And motorbikes included as there is no agreed approval including for the manufacturer (BMW) taking advantage. Anyway here is the reply.... and as I say I do not want to open the debate again because this is kind of definitive from someone at the Department of Transport.
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Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which would cause a vehicle to fail to comply with the construction and use standards. A headlamp which has been approved to European Regulations for use with a HID light source is fine, provided the installation criteria are met. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). These items are not checked at the MoT. However, failure to comply may lead to enforcement action by the police and may invalidate your insurance. Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.
Fitting HID light sources adapted for fitment to headlamps originally designed for use with filament light sources is not permitted and it is not possible to obtain EC type approval for such "modified" HID light sources. Even if the vehicle does pass the MoT exam this only proves that the light produces a beam pattern which is clear enough for aiming. It does not show whether the light distribution within that pattern is sufficient to prevent glare and puts light on the correct part of the road surface.
The same requirements apply regarding fitting an HID light source to a motorcycle. Only a headlamp approved for use with HID light sources may be fitted. Unlike with passenger vehicles, there are no European Regulations on the installation of approved HID headlamps to motorcycles. This is partly because no agreement has been reached on how to implement automatic headlamp levelling and washers on motorcycles. Potentially this could allow an HID headlamp to be fitted to a motorcycle without automatic leveling or washers and we are aware of one manufacturer who has taken advantage of this and fitted an approved HID headlamp to a motorcycle. The user must still ensure, however, that the use of these lamps does not cause glare to other road users, which may be difficult to achieve if the lamps are not kept clean and if there is significant movement of the suspension during use.
Yours sincerely,
DfT - Transport Technology and Standards
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HJ,
hmm interesting, but you need a time machine for it to be useful. At least 5 of the cars in the bottom 10 list are no longer sold. And while there are some surprises - the SEAT, though it is the rarer Cupra, it's mostly common sense. Still, common sense isn't so common these days!
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"How much car for the money?"
Wow!
Evening BR
Who do I contact Re Parking Issues in our road ?
Basically we live on a hill which is a cut through from the Main A458.
Half way up ish is a right hand bend which on it is Two Trees virtually opposite each other and then a car and Van park either side of these trees on both sides.
As we live just past the bend when we turn right on our drive if anyone is coming up the hill they can't see past the tree/car/van combination and there have been a fair few misses.
This works both ways as reversing off our drive is becoming more and more risky.
Oh and the Cars/Vans are both parked half on and half off the pavement. Read more
I understand that the police accept pavement parking provided there is a 1 metre width
left free.
On the other hand ~ lots of authoratitive information here tinyurl.com/2pdv8n regarding parking.
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Article in "The Daily Telegraph" at:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007...l
List of cars at:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/07/31/car.p...f
The "Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion" seems to have the fewest emissions. Car tax seems to be £0/per annum. Read more
The new Polo Bluemotion can be in band A (£0 RFL) or band B (£35 RFL).
Band A cars have no A/C. Band B cars do.
For the sake of £35, I think I would chose a band B car!
In a car park yesterday I came across a father and daughter pushing a car along, and struggling. They were pushing it right across the car park to where they had an extension lead and battery charger, and being a generous soul I offered to help push it for a bump start.
The battery wasn't completely dead (dash lights came on etc), but the engine would only run for a second or two and then stopped. It was a newish Clio with a petrol engine, and I was stumped as to why the engine kept stopping as my assumption is that the alternator easily provides enough juice at tickover to charge the battery and generate enough power to deliver regular sparks.
The only thing I didn't try was starting it and revving it, all this happened without touching the accelerator. I assume they got it going in the end, since someone else stopped and offered jump leads. I'd left my car blocking the exit ramp so had to go any fetch it. Read more
Err.... They were bump starting it?
Doh!..... I'll get me coat........
More misery for motorists in the pipeline (pun intended) as the oil price rises to a new high:
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>>off-the-cuff breakdown of price
Shudder!
Sorry Lud, beyond embarassing and antagonising the local building society staff with my mortgage spreadsheet, I don't do financial calculations for "fun". Stress, acoustics, vibration, dynamics, and vehicle performance calcs, now that's much more interesting!
Number_Cruncher
I am considering buying my first ever new car. UK Car Discount.co.uk., appear to offer amazing reductions. Have your readers any experience or guidance about this company?
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If they have and it is bad/negative they won't be allowed to tell you owing to sensible site policy re naming and shaming! If you don't get any negative replies it may be because nobody has used them at all or they have and they didn't enjoy the experience. Positive is good, obviously!
Demand for DeLorean cars is so high that it may go back into production, according to a US firm.
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Total rubbish Blue Haddock.
The Renault GTA was a fast car (although flawed).
The Delorean was a totally phoney lump of Americanoid carp, and looked it. Sorry.
i have a Renault Clio 1.4 p reg and the front wheel bolts have stripped off, do i need a whole new hub or are the threads on the discs? do i just need to buy some new discs? Read more
New hub, as that's where the threads are.
Yesterday was a great driving day....
The sun was shining, and there was barely a cloud in sight, so I pulled the covers off the '928 and took it out for a run.
Within a few minutes of heading out, I'd been followed by a Ferrari 348; spotted an imaculate 911 and overtaken a gleaming 944 convertible.
It was as if the '80s were back....if I'd had a Level 42 cassette, it would have been perfect!
Throw in the fellow motorists offering a friendly wave, or craning their necks to get a closer look at the '928, and it made a great motoring day.
Modern classic cars, out and about, bringing recent motoring history back to life.
Forget about driving quickly. Its not miles-per hour that counts these days, its smiles-per-hour!
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Absolutely correct. When the sun is shining I love nothing better than to roll the 6 series out of the garage and enjoy some old skool fun. If she'll start that is. Miles more fun than the RS4 while being considerably slower.


Certainly EU requirements mean that ,if fitted to a new car, they must be self-levelling.However,the only UK in-use legislation is C&U and MoT.-neither of which mention self-levelling.EU requirements are applied differently in different countries-prime example-daytime running lights-not mentioned in the actual EU regs.
Scandinavia-required by local legislation-so must be fitted.
Germany-not mentioned in local legislation-so must NOT be fitted.
UK-not mentioned in local legislation-so can be fitted.