So just why is the inside lane of the motorway called the "inside" lane? Looking at the motorway as a whole (all 6 lanes), the "inside" lanes are in fact on the outside. Even if you just look at one carriageway (3 lanes), there's nothing that particularly defines inside or outside. The only defining feature is that you join and leave by the "inside", but there's no linguistic reason why you can't say you join and leave by the outside.
Mattster
Boycott shoddy build and reliability.
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All too true, but what sort of frame of mind do you have to be in to think of that?
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The same one that thinks it's stupid when newspapers bleat about the price of a gallon of petrol, when no-one can remember how much a gallon of petrol costs as we all buy in litres!
Or one that observes that MPG is not a measure of consumption, but efficiency. GPM or as they now quote "litres/100km" is a true measure of consumption.
Mattster
Boycott shoddy build and reliability.
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The same one that thinks it's stupid when newspapers bleat about the price of a gallon of petrol, when no-one can remember how much a gallon of petrol costs as we all buy in litres! Or one that observes that MPG is not a measure of consumption, but efficiency. GPM or as they now quote "litres/100km" is a true measure of consumption.
Agreed. Both nearly as annoying as those who wait until the temperature rises above 20 degrees, then quote the temperature in Fahrenheit for dramatic effect...
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OK, I'll bite......
Is there some kind of correlation between inside and nearside, and outside and offside?
Incidentally, can you overtake on the inside on a Grand Prix circuit? If so which side is that?
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Incidentally, can you overtake on the inside on a Grand Prix circuit? If so which side is that?
No. You can't overtake on the outside either, although I've heard a rumour recently that it's not technically illegal, just frowned upon.
Regarding inside, outside, nearside, offside, upside and sunnyside, I'm slightly ashamed to say I can never remember which is which anyway.
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Judging by the GPs I have seen, (not many.. yawn), I thought overtaking had been banned. Full Stop
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In a recent ruling I believe Bernie has stipulated that changing the race order in a GP must only occur when a car is in the pits for refuelling or has suffered mechanical failure/accident.
Overtaking of a car one or more complete laps behind is permissible - but only when a blue flag is waved.
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In a recent ruling I believe Bernie has stipulated that changing the race order in a GP must only occur when a car is in the pits for refuelling or has suffered mechanical failure/accident.
Please tell me that you are joking, otherwise I may well stop watching F1 until overtaking is once more allowed. What was the logic behind this ruling? To my mind, overtaking on the track is one of the main elements of any form of racing.
Please tell me that you are joking.
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L'escargot by name, but not by nature.
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the "inside" lanes are in fact on the outside.
I've often pondered this. There must be someone who knows! Please?
(I must get out more - maybe I can't tell the difference)
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I always though and was taught inside lane was slow lane.not that it makes any difference now as people now drive at speeds they want to in any lane.hence undertaking which is where some end up.
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Much easier if you use emergency service jargon, counting from the left it's lane 1, lane 2, lane 3.
There is no slow lane or fast lane, you should drive on the left except when overtaking.
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Thinking back to an ordinary road with a lane in each direction, if you are moving over prior to overtaking, that is surely "moving out"? When you have completed the manoeuvre, or perhaps only moved back because you see something coming, that is "pulling in" again.
So by extension, on a wider road that allows 2 lanes , the one on the right becomes the one you would overtake in, and hence the "outside lane", so the other one the "inner lane".
I think it all stems from the principle of passing oncoming traffic on a particular side, and also of a specified side on which to overtake slower traffic. If there were no rules at all, like in those old pictures of horsedrawn traffic round Hyde Park Corner, then there would be no such thing as outside or inside.
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I've always wondered why they say that a film contains 'strong language'.
I've observed that repeated use of the F word and other expletives generally demonstrates a weak command of the language.
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Regarding the inside/outside question, I always thought it was based on the interpretation of the driver. When I'm driving, to the right of me is "outside" the car, and to the left of me is "inside". Thus the concept of outside and inside stands regardless of whether a country drives on the left or right.
But then perhaps that's just my little brain struggling with a problem in the stupid way that it tends to.
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Regarding the inside/outside question, I always thought it was based on the interpretation of the driver. When I'm driving, to the right of me is "outside" the car, and to the left of me is "inside".
That makes it sound like you are half-way out of the side-window while driving!
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"Thus the concept of outside and inside stands regardless of whether a country drives on the left or right."
In the US, where they drive on the right, the concept of inside and outside lanes is alien. There they are referred to as "slow", "middle" and "fast". If you wanted to sound a bit more official, you would call the "fast" lane the "overtaking" lane as it should only be used for overtaking, but chances are no-one would know what you were taking about as every lane is considered an overtaking lane by the average motorist. It gets even more interesting when on a road with 8 or more lanes, you wind up with one "slow" 2 or more "middles" and one "fast" lane.
Just when you think had that all figured out, you enter a HOV (high occupancy vehicle) zone and now the "fast" lane is known as a "HOV" or "Carpool" lane. But only on weekdays...and only at certain times of those weekdays...and those times differ depending on the direction you are heading in.
Now, can we tackle that nearside/offside thing?. Why not call it Driver/passenger?.
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Now, can we tackle that nearside/offside thing?. Why not call it Driver/passenger?.
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Or left/right - facing forwards of course.
Here's another source of confusion:
front/back of an engine mounted transversely or front to back
or:
No. 1 cylinder, when the convention subscribed to is not defined.
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I thought the convention was to start numbering at the timing chain, Cliff? (What you do on a 'V' engine, I don't know!)
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I thought the convention was to start numbering at the timing chain, Cliff? (What you do on a 'V' engine, I don't know!)
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No, I've met engines that number from the "back".
I've owned two V engines, but I can't remember. I think they number 1-4 down one bank and then 5-8 down the other.
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