Any - Removing Window Tint Film - edlithgow

While working on the brakes I blundered into my DS wing mirror and broke it off. Crummy wee pot-metal ball joint mounting, perhaps made deliberately weak to avoid pedestrian injury, is proving tricky to fix in a way that’ll allow and hold adjustment, concentrating my mind on the fact that I couldn’t see properly through the back window due to bubbling of the anti-sun plastic film. This is probably a common problem on older cars here in Taiwan.

Cue an Internyet search. IIRC I looked here

https://cartreatments.com/how-to-remove-window-tint/

and went for a combination of

Method 3 “Solar Peel” – you put black plastic from a rubbish bag over the outside of the glass which heats up in the sun (usually reliable here) and transfers that heat to the glass, softening the glue.

Method 4 Wet Newspapers You wet the inside of the window with “soapy water” (whatever that means. I used washing-up detergent) apply newspapers, keep the newspaper wet for an hour, and peel off the film. Some sources suggest the film just comes away with the newspaper, which I didn’t believe for a second.

I didn’t have newspaper (Sooo Last Century) but I have an unlimited supply of old test papers, so I used them.

Wasn’t very convinced by either of these methods but I had 2 secret weapons. GF’s hair dryer, and lots of old brake fluid. The recommended solvents are Household Ammonia (which I didn’t have and probably wouldn’t be able to buy here) and ethanol (which is hard to find due to the Novelty Exploding Cigar Virus Panic).

Brake fluid might be too risky if you had paint you cared about, but I don’t carry that burden.

Sho nuf, shortly after the black plastic was applied, the normally reliable sun clouded over and a stiff breeze blew up.

After an hour or two I abandoned the solar energy program and started peeling with the hair dryer, working brake fluid in behind the lifted edge with a brush. The film peeled fairly easily but I wasn’t convinced the brake fluid was doing anything, so stopped using it about a quarter of the way down. This was probably a mistake, since there was a lot more glue left behind on the lower part of the hatch.

Lessons Learned.

I think its best to apply heat to the outside of the glass, so the glue line fails on the glass surface, perhaps aided by applied solvent. Heating the film on the inside alone (as with the hair dryer) means the glue line fails on the plastic inside surface, leaving a lot of glue on the glass. Duh!

Brake fluid isn’t an effective glue remover, though it may do some softening. I tried petrol and “Cleaning Naptha”, which apparently did nothing

Since it was a hatch, I had the luxury of varying its angle and could have heated the outside with hot water and towels. I did this for the glue removal, leaving paper soaked in brake fluid on the inside of the glass overnight. Still involved a lot of hairdryer and razor blade tedium to get (nearly) all the glue off.

According to the Internyet, a steamer is favourite. I don’t have a steamer.

Same words with pictures here.

https://tw.forumosa.com/t/has-anyone-ever-removed-window-tint-from-their-car/84152/11

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - Andrew-T

Most ordinary non-setting glues will respond to White Spirit (toluene/xylene), as well as the low heat you have been using. Hopefully W-S can be found in Taiwan ? Or perhaps acetone or nail-varnish remover.

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - edlithgow

Most ordinary non-setting glues will respond to White Spirit (toluene/xylene), as well as the low heat you have been using. Hopefully W-S can be found in Taiwan ? Or perhaps acetone or nail-varnish remover.

Though I don't know this for a fact, I'd think if white spirit worked, petrol and/or "cleaning naptha" probably would too, and they didnt.

Xylene is a pretty good solvent though, and certainly worth a try, as long as it doesn't attack the plastc film itself, which would be messy .

If I have to do it again (hope not) I'll try more solvents.

Edited by edlithgow on 09/03/2020 at 12:30

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - Andrew-T

<< Xylene is a pretty good solvent, as long as it doesn't attack the plastic film itself, which would be messy . >>

Aromatic solvents are noticeably better than aliphatic ones (paraffins). If your 'plastic' film is polystyrene it will dissolve immediately .... :-)

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - edlithgow

The film is pretty tough and flexible, which I don't associate with polystyrene. I'd think it might be a UV stabilised version of the stuff pop bottles are made of, but of course I dunno.

I think both petrol and "cleaning naphtha" are likely to have aromatic content.

IIRC the aromatics have high octane values, hence mothballs have been used as improvised octane improvers by, for example, Castro's troops during the Cuban Civil War.

I dunno why they didn't use White Spirit, but it doesn't matter now. They won anyway.

I looked up Naphtha (hence my improved spelling) and the terms usage is unclear and inconsistent, and is therefore likely to be especially attractive to native speakers of Chinese.

"Cleaning Naphtha" may actually be White Spirit.

Edited by edlithgow on 10/03/2020 at 01:18

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - Andrew-T

The film is pretty tough and flexible, which I don't associate with polystyrene. I'd think it might be a UV stabilised version of the stuff pop bottles are made of, but of course I dunno.

Most 'jewel-cases' that CDs come in are polystyrene, fairly tough and flexible but prone to cracking. Pop bottles are food-grade PET, mainly because it is crystal-clear and has a fairly high melting point.

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - thunderbird

How about using petrol, brake fluid and every other highly inflammable liquid in the garage and then lighting a match inside the car.

Problem solved.

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - edlithgow

How about using petrol, brake fluid and every other highly inflammable liquid in the garage and then lighting a match inside the car.

Problem solved.

Uh huh.

Due to the ceaseless vigilance of the Mary Whitehouse Module, I can't respond appropriately.

But I'm sure you know what you can do..

While you're at it, here's some inflammatory reading and video porn on the flammability, of brake fluid.

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/hydraulics/ht101.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EMGuh0njJE

https://trid.trb.org/view/294408

Turns out it isn't "highly inflammable"" at all, though you can get it to burn if you try really, really hard.

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - edlithgow

The film is pretty tough and flexible, which I don't associate with polystyrene. I'd think it might be a UV stabilised version of the stuff pop bottles are made of, but of course I dunno.

Most 'jewel-cases' that CDs come in are polystyrene, fairly tough and flexible but prone to cracking. Pop bottles are food-grade PET, mainly because it is crystal-clear and has a fairly high melting point.

Jewel cases crack at the slightest provocation (or at least mine do). Polystyrene would dissolve in petrol, so it sin't that.

Internyet says its polyester.

Any - Removing Window Tint Film - edlithgow

An alternative would have been to just remove the doors and rear hatch, in a macho super-legere makeover.

Cue Taiwans newish indigenous tactical toy.

1800×1200

I’ve seen one of these on a train in Tainan station. (Taiwan forces, to their credit, often move vehicles by train, which AFAIK the British Army never do).

Rather unmilitary wheels (surely not ALLOYS?), VERY unconvincing tyres, and they apparently don’t trust the handbrake, but they do seem to be packing a heavy calibre dashcam for those strategic selfies.

I reckon I could significantly undercut the 60k US unit price (Less is evidently A LOT more), and since its apparently based on Ford Escape running gear I might not be too far behind on reliability either.

I’d keep the roof and windscreen though. No point in being stupid.

Tempting, but might attract unwelcome cop attention (ALL modifications are illegal in Taiwan). Perhaps just as well I’ve lost my green paint.