March 2009

reddun

I bought a Ford Galaxy TDCi Zetec (07 plate) in December 2008 from a well known car supermarket .

I paid the AA £171 for a comprehensive vehicle inspection, which it passed with flying colours.

The previous owner had serviced after 7 months/15,000 miles and it was on 25,000 miles on the forecourt. I called Ford, gave them the details to check if it was still under manufacturers warranty. They told me it was but that as it was now on 25,000 it needed its second service. I therefore bought the car for £13k and took it for its service at a Ford dealer.

For 2,000 miles it was great.

Then last week after 3 months , the engine started vibrating and rattling badly. The AA towed me to London to a Ford dealership. They called me the next day to say that the car wasn't under warranty after all, because the first service was not done within 12,500 miles, and if the engine problem was due to the oil not being changed back then I would be liable.

I felt sick, but told them to go ahead with the engine inspection. Back came the news that the engine has heavy metal contamination which has damaged the fly wheels and ruined the engine. All this apparently because the oil wasn't changed between 13,500 miles and its service at 15,900 miles. It needs a new engine and turbo, which will cost £5,800.

Ford have said they will contribute nothing.

I'm now a bit stuffed - I simply haven't got the money to fix it. I don't know if Ford/the dealer are duping me - can the lack of oil change on a car 7 months old really be so fatal? Or was there an underlying problem with the engine build quality?

Who is responsible? the car supermarket, The AA inspection team, Ford or me?

Any help gratefully received.

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davecuk

After reading all this I will certainly never buy another Ford car again and thinking about it all the ford card I have owned have had quite expensive problems many within the Warranty period and some just outside....TBH I don't know why I kept buying them?

Dynamic Dave


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