Pug 206 - 120K motorway miles, not thrashed OY51 REG.

New developments with the issue stated below:

Update: The car starts after about ten seconds, with a big puff of smoke out the back. Key point, the car only has problems starting when left overnight, but starts perfectly well the rest of the day. Yesterday, with the extreme cold weather, it failed to start despite me trying to using/pumping the fuel primer. I called the AA out who attached plug leads to the battery which did not seem to help, but after several minutes eventually did tick over. So I took the car to the dealer who said they would try to look at the car asap. The looked at it that afternoon, and stated that the car was staring fine. I told them it only has problems starting in the morning. They kept it overnight and reported back to me that the problem was not the glow plugs which they said were 100% but that there was communication problems with the computer in the car. They stated that the it was either faulty wiring or that I need a new computer!!!! expensive.

This does not seem right, I asked this question before and got these reponses, it seems they have not considered (bar one option) these potential solutions.

What are your thoughts, are they riping me off again?

Earlier question:-

How do,

Not been on for a while which is always good news, but i have a quick (but familiar) question for the diesel heads out there.

Winter is coming, which means starting problems for my Pug 2001 206. You may have already guessed that my car starts up no problem in the summer.

I just about managed through last winter without major starting problems (avarage two turns of the key), but got the glow plugs replaced in January by a Pug Dealer.

Anyway, is there an obvious solution to this problem, that would ease my winter worries (New battery perhaps), or should I expect the nightmare starts again. My fear being that the Pug will fair to start this year!!!

Car has over 100K mostly motorway miles on the clock.

A worried pug dealer, is there any other Kind?

Thanks,

Craig



Presuming the engine is the older, non-tubocharged 1.9D (XUD engine), there are only a few possible causes of poor starting and no particular reason why you should expect problems. To summarise the usual suspects:

Glow plugs - already eliminated

Glow plug relay - you'd know about it even in the summer if this went

Compression - Air in the fuel line - Battery -


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