You are alive. No-one died, no one is badly hurt, your car got dented. Get over it, and get a life.
You want no crumple zones? hmm you may well not want to be in the next accident you have or the first statement above may not be true.
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How's that going to work DH? Huge accident with massive g forces but how is the camera going to start 30 seconds before it? I guess you mean some sort continuous loop recording device which will record all the time and stop 5 secs after the application of G forces. How is your career in aviation BTW, asking as an old pilot to a young one?
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I'm a little hazy on this so may have got the facts wrong but aren't there some insurers in America who install video cameras into cars, possibly only for younger drivers............
I'm sure someone can clarify or I may have imagined it all ;-)
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i am over it
i still think we need some reforms to get this scum off the road, its a little more impotant than 35 in a 30, the police should have the resources to deal with such scum
this system is not sustainable, cos the ordinary hardworking folk wont put up with it indefinitely
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See if the vahicle is on the Motor Insurance Database
www.askmid.com/
If not, I'd go to the Police in the morning.
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my insurance company has already told me that its insured, company policy, doesnt mean the scum will tell the truth does it?
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It was an accident, he is insured, you have no idea if he is going to admit its his fault or not.
At this point - why is he scum?
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he drove into you. made a mistake. thats why its called an accident. Scum?
Have you never had a near miss thats your fault after a temporary lapse of concentration in your accident free 10 years?
If not, then you should be doing 45 in a 30, not 35 as you're obviously such a superior being compared to us other mortals!
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he is scum because he changed direction at the last moment, counter to what he was indicating, with no knowledge of what was in his blind spot, breaking all the rules of the road flow where he was, it wasnt a small lapse of concentration, it was a massive total case of dangerous driving breaking every rule in the book
im not claiming to be "superior" im fairly average, reasonably safe, and DONT drive wrecklessly like this idiot did
he is scum because in my view he is dangerous on the road, and is exacltly the kind of driver that should be feeling the full pressure of the legal system etc
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OK Rant over. Less of the scum stuff. And its "reckless" by the way. "Wreckless" is when someone subsequently makes off with a crashed car leaving owner devoid of same.It must be true I heard it on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue !
Edited by Pugugly {P} on 16/12/2007 at 19:51
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"and its "reckless" by the way. "Wreckless" is when someone subsequently makes off with a crashed car leaving owner devoid of same."
That hit my funny spot. First time I've cracked a smile all day after the stress of putting the damned tree up.
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I had a head on with a corsa 3 months ago and the driver of said corsa lost control because she was driving far too fast around a bend. She came round sideways and then veered into my lane right in front of me.
Is she scum? No, incompetent on that day, probably in a rush like your van driver. she didnt try to kill me, just didnt drive well.
Personally I wasn't upset, just glad i managed to move most of my car out of the way so i just caught her with my corner. Otherwise because of the angles involved I think that she would have died.
We all walked away and of which I am thankful for that. My car was badly bent, but its a piece of metal and is therefore unimportant in the great scheme of things.
Someone has violated your space and your property and youre annoyed, but I think you just need to take a step back and get a different perspective on things. One day you may need someone to do the same when you do something silly - we all do sometimes!
Edited by Webmaster on 17/12/2007 at 20:00
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I think I`ve been hit around three times over the years. Can`t remember feeling bad about the other driver though, I just think `thats an accident` or `thats life.`
Unlike if someone gets caught speeding ;)
(thats happened to me three times too (well spaced out though)... still can`t work up a sweat over it.
Perhaps we need personality screening for anger at driving license application time, I think that would save a lot of trouble....;)
Regards
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if someone was driving normally and just misjudged it, was a few inches the wrong way at the wrong time, or even braked too late, then yes im open to accident as way to describe it
driving an HGV like this guy did is nothing of that sort
his excuse at the time was that he was lost, and thats why he changed direction at the last minute with no idea what was around him
he is driving a van, he is a young lad, he is exactly the sort of character who probably drives like this regularly and gets away with it
its not good enough, and yes im currently cheesed off, but with my rational head on i really think the forces of law and order could do more to make the roads safer than just ignore this kind of thing
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"driving an HGV like this guy did"
"he is driving a van"
"but with my rational head on"
Better switch back to your other head, cos that one`s got him driving two different vehicles ;);)
Regards ;)
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As someone who's been there more than once, and knows that all the "it's only a car" and "at least you're still alive" malarky means nothing to you right now... some advice.
Have a bath, have a drink, go to bed. Let the insurers try and deal with it - no point worrying about what he may or may not admit until they've spoken to him. Save the anger and stress until it's needed. You'll just give yourself a headache.
On a practical note, you wont lose 2 years no claims if he admits it's his fault. You just send a copy of the cheque from his company for your excess to your insurer and they reinstate it. (You might find you pay more for few years because of the simple fact you've been in an accident, even a no-fault one, but it's a tiny amount).
Also, consider claiming direct from his insurance rather than involving your insurer (appreciate it may be too late for this now), and if you don't feel safe in a KA courtesy car, ask for a bigger one. Worked for me.
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theres got to be a market for a "proper" protected NCB where you really are protected if its not your fault (not the version at the moment where the premiums go up in practise anyway!), even if the other party doesnt admit it, and where you get a decent courtesy car for longer than 2 weeks (lets face it this isnt going to be fixed in two weeks), and even where they bring a private criminal prosecution where the police cannot be bothered, where you get some cameras in the car to protect your position in situations like this
id pay for it
and yes i have some sympathy for the rules of the road in texas where idiots like this would get themselves shot
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theres got to be a market for a "proper" protected NCB where you really are protected if its not your fault (not the version at the moment where the premiums go up in practise anyway!)
The last time I made a claim on my protected NCD policy I waited 3 months for the dust to settle and then I got an online quote from my insurer. It was identical to the quote I got 5-6 months earlier, i.e. before the claim.
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I sympathise with you. The regular posters have rounded on you as they seem to always do. Patronising comments which show they probably condone the white van man behaviour. Get a life, they say, why you almost lost one.
Get over it, why, you're sharing a traumatic experience. They don't see that.
Poor driving or collisions that endanger my family make me seethe too.
I passed a white van on the M1 recently. He was in lane 2. And driving quite slow. I passed him in lane 3 and looked across to see him doing a crossword in a newspaper, leaning across the wheel on his forearms. No hands on the wheel.
He probably drives like this day in day out. And never gets caught.
Too many bullies on this forum who think they know best, and don't want to here others opinions. Constructive criticism is fine, but slagging off for the sake of it is not on. So before the resident pack rounds on me, I'm off, had enough. Thought this was going to be a mature forum, but hey, it might get better. So this is my last post. No, stop cheering!
Good night, safe motoring.
Edited by scribe on 22/01/2008 at 21:59
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