Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - The Rookie

Hi. I have a face lift my Honda Crv 2006. Last of the square shape model.

The vehicle has done 113k. Maticulously maintained. However I'm experiencing a vibration / wobble at a speed range of 15-30 mph. I've swapped wheels from from to back on both sides with no effect to the problem. Both front driveshafts have been refurbished and the intermediate (half shaft) has had the bearing changed. Both from wheel bearings are fine. Front discs and pads have been renewed. All front end bushes look ok. As does the engine mounts. The car has been raised off the ground and run to experience the vibration. On result of this, what was evident was the front right wheel was rotating slightly oval shape. But almost all drive train parts have been replaced.

Clutching at straws, the only thing I haven't done is drop the prop shaft to see if it still does the same thing. Or try another right hand driveshaft to see if there is a problem with the balance of the part. Really scratching my head here.

The car under and above the problem speed is really smooth. Any help will be much appreciated.

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - corax

Have you checked the propshaft centre bearing?

Warped brake discs usually only produce vibration when they are applied.

Wheel bearings would start droning if worn but not vibrate.

Are the wheels balanced properly by people who know what they're doing, although a wobble/vibration usually appears around 60mph.

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - thunderbird

Propshafts have balance weights, has one fallen off?

Worn UJ's or CV's cause vibration.

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - The Rookie

Thanks for your reply.

I've checked the prop shaft for the weight and it's still present.

But your right in thinking it's a balance thing. Certainly feels like it. Dropping the prop shaft off in two weeks time. I'll post my findings.

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - The Rookie

Thanks for your reply.

I'm yet to drop the prop out. That's my next move, to drive it as a front wheel drive with the prop shaft off. Just to see if it still has the vibration.

I've swapped the wheels from back to front on both sides with no effect.

Tyres are all the same brand and pattern. (Bridgestone)

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - Bolt

I'm yet to drop the prop out. That's my next move, to drive it as a front wheel drive with the prop shaft off. Just to see if it still has the vibration.

could be prop shaft UJ`s universal joints

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - The Rookie

Update.

Propshaft taken off. Problem with the vibration still occurs.

However not quite as bad if any difference.

I believe that's down to no propshaft for the vibration to travel down.

One possible solution would be a problem with the reconditioned driveshaft.

When all 4 wheels were jacked up of the floor, and drove 20 mph so to replicate the issue of the vibration it showed the front off side wheel turning in a oval rotation. With the half shaft bearing replaced, this is my next move. Anyone with any other suggestions are welcome.

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - Bolt

Update.

Propshaft taken off. Problem with the vibration still occurs.

However not quite as bad if any difference.

I believe that's down to no propshaft for the vibration to travel down.

One possible solution would be a problem with the reconditioned driveshaft.

When all 4 wheels were jacked up of the floor, and drove 20 mph so to replicate the issue of the vibration it showed the front off side wheel turning in a oval rotation. With the half shaft bearing replaced, this is my next move. Anyone with any other suggestions are welcome.

I presume you mean the tyre is out of round,if so thats your problem?

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - The Rookie

Sadly it's not that simple. I have swapped the wheels around from the rear to the front to see if the problem stops, and the wheel still spins oval at 20 - 30 mph. So there's nothing wrong with the wheels and tyres. Or should I say the wheel osolates in a oval rotation at 20 - 30 mph

My next move would be to either remove the reconditioned driveshaft and get it checked out for any issues or change the shock absorber if it's tyre hopping.

It's really starting to get my goat.

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - Bolt

Sadly it's not that simple. I have swapped the wheels around from the rear to the front to see if the problem stops, and the wheel still spins oval at 20 - 30 mph. So there's nothing wrong with the wheels and tyres. Or should I say the wheel osolates in a oval rotation at 20 - 30 mph

My next move would be to either remove the reconditioned driveshaft and get it checked out for any issues or change the shock absorber if it's tyre hopping.

It's really starting to get my goat.

If its spinning oval and the wheel/tyre is perfectly round it has to be the wheel bearing, as the outer shaft goes through the hub

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - The Rookie

Thanks for the prompt reply.

I have checked the hub flange for play and spun it, with no indication of it being worn. Quite smooth in rotation. No movement from top to bottom with the wheel on.

On reflection to your diagnosis, when I had all 4 wheels off the ground and drove the wheels to the vibrating speed 15-30 mph, the wheel was osolating in an oval revolution, I also noticed that the inner driveshaft was also spinning ovally. Which made me think that the shaft maybe in question. ( Which made me also believe the half shaft bearing may have been at fault ) But having changed that bearing with no change to the problem. I presume, if there is minimal wear in the bearing, it will be more evident in the other end of the driveshaft nearest the intermediate shaft (half shaft) and the wheel. It would be a cheap fix at £50 compared with changing a shock absorber and spring.

Thank you for your advice. As soon as the bearing is changed, I'll post an update.

Thanks again

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - The Rookie

Good morning,

I believe to have found the problem to the vibration on my Honda crv.

If you recall, I mentioned that the front right wheel was rotating slightly oval shape, and at the same time the driveshaft inner cv joint was also rotating in an oval revolution at the vibration speed of 15-30 mph.

So I investigated further and sent this you tube link to the driveshaft recondition company of my findings.

According to the company, they say that the half shaft splines can wear and become undersize over time.

With my vehicle having covered 113k now, I suppose it is plausible.

Here's the link below.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=7pV6AtofY08

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - Bolt

Half shaft splines very rarely wear like that, at least I`ve never seen it,I have on gearbox primary shaft where clutch is released quickly causing a sheer force on the splines but that was years ago.

I suspect its more likely the bearing that holds the inner cvj and outer and as the outer cvj is mounted through the wheel bearing its more than likely the cause

If it is the splines I will be surprised

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - The Rookie

Hi.

Driveshafts.UK quoted that the half shaft ( intermediate shaft ) splines were worn on the connection with the inner cv joint. Apparently they have seen it before, on a regular basis. I believe that to be nonsense too, but to rest there doubts I'll follow there theory.

I can confirm your suspicion, as I spent 3hrs stripping and rebuilding the parts and measuring the splines with a digital vernier.

There was approx 3 thou difference at the most, between half shaft and inner cv splines.

Which is probably the same as manufacturer tolerances.

I do believe they are just blaming everything bar there own driveshaft. Which will bring me to the point of taking it back to them for investigation. I'm almost tempted to buy a Q drive driveshaft from euro car parts, fit it, then if it's cured, just get a refund from Driveshafts.UK. The way they talk ODM who make the cv joints are the holy grail of cv joints and don't fail.

Honda CR-V - Vibration felt at 15-30 mph under my feet. - Bolt

For some reason you seem very sure its the shaft,usually the only problems you get with shafts is being bent or going out of balance.apart from shearing that is..

the parts I would go for is the bearings that hold it in place, because if they are slightly worn they will throw the shaft out of balance ie wheel bearing or diff bearing that holds the cvj in place, cvj on video had sideways play on it but not certain of Honda limits on that

A small amount of play is acceptable but too much throws the driveshaft out of balance,shafts are usually balanced before you buy them,so unless its been bent or damaged there is no reason to suspect it being out of balance

spline problems ie damage, wear, cause restriction of free movement in/out of the cvj which is needed during driving as the hub moves up/down on road surface