July 2007
A thought struck me last night in my search for a new car... is it really so bad to buy new anymore (in terms of losing so much in depreciation I mean)?
For my example, take the Ford Focus 1.6 TDCI Studio. A quick look on parkers tells us that the price for a 1 year old (10,000 mile) version of the above from a franchised dealer is £9,265 (based on the MRRP of £13,327 = depreciation of about 30%) so a loss of £4062 to anyone who brought one....
However with websites like Drive The Deal, no one pays the MRRP, and in reality I could pick one up tomorrow for £10,828. So if I assume (possible egg on face time) that a year ago they were the same price then that would mean a buyer would only have lost £1563 on a years new motoring plus not taking a gamble that a year old car has an unknown history...
So I can understand people saying "don't touch new cars, they depreciate too much, get one a year or two old" if they thought you could lose £4k+ on a £14k car... but the above suggests it would be nothing like that amount..
Anyone got any thoughts?
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this is a relay for heated seats on a 1997 golf
i need it spelling out in idiot terms what each pin does
i.e # H= LIVE, 31 =EARTH AND SO ON
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Hi i don't work for VW but it is part of my dealership so if you need any more info post the vin / chassis number and i will print off a VW wireing diagram for your your car.
Regards,
Merlin.
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There are similar figures plus forecasts here:
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Astra 2000 Sept, 1.6 16v LS estate has 15inch wheels fitted. The handbook specifies 14inch only for the 16v version, the 8v having 15inch.
Please can anyone shed light on the effects of this vis-a-vis ride characteristics with hard fuel saver tyres, etc.,
Also would not the speedo, odometer and trip all under reading by 7%???
Regards
Brian
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Thanks Kith and DD, I found out from my local Vauxhall dealer that the car was factory fitted with 5J 15 inch wheels and 186/65 R 15 H tyres as are now fitted.
This begs the question why does the handbook specify 186/65 R 14 H for the 16v??? typo?
Car bibles is very good - thanks
brian
Does anyone in the trade ever see mint `retirement cars` 15yrs or so old, yet like new?
I see what I assume are retirement cars now and then, driven by a younger driver, perhaps inherited?
Often 15 years old and yet looking as though they have never seen a winter, or stood out in the summer sun.
I was looking at an red Peugeot, going past recently. Fifteen years old, red paint and all... looking like brand new.
really new that is, almost like a timewarp, if it existed, would present one.
I guess its quite reasonable for someone buying their last car new, to keep it in a heated garage when its salty on the roads or even wet.
To use the free bus pass and let the car stay pristine in bad weather.
Whats the best example seen? in common cars that is, not the Lord in his Manor with a brace of Bentleys.
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If it's 15 years old regardless of what condition it's in I wouldn't want it. 15 years old is old hat out-of-date old technology. Eugh!
That's right, new technology is always better isn't it? And you never see a new car with problems, they never appear at the dealers until they're at least 4 years old ;-)
I see that Hillingdon is now providing town centre parking spaces for oldies, defined as 50 or over, designated by the 'bendy-couple with stick' symbol.
Sounds to me like a recipe for plenty of arguments.
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L`escargot, I saw one ( dis scooter) that was homemade a few years back. It looked like the base of an industrial pulling machine of some sort and the guy had an armchair mounted on it. (Only in West Yorkshire......... :):)
Further to BBD's comments in another thread, yes blue Imprezzas with gold wheels looked OK in 1996 though IMO the colour doesnt do anything for the car now days.
Mondeo STs look OK in their slightly less lairy though similar blue however, as with Imprezzas, they look much better in silver or a metallic dark grey.
MG ZTs were tastfully sporty in silver or grey, OK in red or BRG though simply OTT in a similar metallic blue.
I saw a new Octavia VRS the other day that looked all-dressed-up-with-no-one-to-race in its shiny Subaru blue though would have looked sublty sporty in a more restrained colour.
Various Clios, 206/7s and small Toyotas are similarly afflicted.
I dont think I would avoid a second hand car just because of it being Subaru blue though to me the colour just does not appeal.
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Last run of the current shape is the GB270 which will be 400 of the 4 dr and 100 of the 5 door Subaru Blue for the 4 door and Grey for the wagon. I reckon Subaru know what their market expects/wants.
I have a 2 year old Fiat Panda 4x4 with a small problem. Water leaks into one of the headlamps due to a faulty seal on the back panel. How do I know that? Well, I have examined the seal and it clearly fails to make contact at one point. In addition, it is only in wet conditions that the water enters the lamp.
However, Fiat's "cure" for this has been to instruct the dealer to drill 5 very big holes in the back panel, thus removing any watertight properties the unit had. I can see how they are thinking. They assume this is condensation and are trying to remove the water by increased condensation. Might work in the hot Italian climate but not here in the UK. So what will happen now is that water repeatedly entering the unit will eventually destroy it along with the wiring and electricals of the aim adjuster. However, by the time this happens the car will be well out of warranty.
Nice one Fiat.
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Thanx all. When I speak to the service manager on his return from holiday next week I shall refer to all your comments here as bad publicity often seems to get results. Small claims court is a viable option as the headlamp unit has now been rendered unfit for purpose by the dealer.
Today my partner phones to say our 530d has the alternator light and ive called" rac" who come out and say nothings wrong
On way home the light comes on and stays on ,managed to limp it home .
Im on my way home in a Ford Ka and the engine light comes on just a mile away from home ,so thats going back to BT to be sorted
So ive given my partner my BMW to drive tommorow and i got a Combo from my yard which weve had a while,pulled on to my drive and it died and refused to start
Finally did start a few minutes later and its got no power and worst of all ive no transport tommorow !!
What a crappy day!!!!!
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What a crappy day!!!!!
The day was OK, it was the cars which were crappy!
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L\'escargot.
Ka van 02 52 reg
Engine light came on tonight ,doesn't appear to drive any different any one know what it could be ?
They don't have a service light do they ,as it has done 10k since last one?
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Could be anything, you'll need to have the fault code read at a garage.
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Mike Farrow


the service manager will most likely not be bothered where the cars came from. He'll only be interested in which helps him meet his targets.