Parking places for oldies - Oz
I see that Hillingdon is now providing town centre parking spaces for oldies, defined as 50 or over, designated by the 'bendy-couple with stick' symbol.
Sounds to me like a recipe for plenty of arguments.
Oz (as was)
Parking places for oldies - Round The Bend
Is this providing new parking spaces or just rebadging old spaces. If it is the latter then this will just cause resentment etc etc.

As someone just approaching the big 5 0, can't say that being depicted as a "bendy" is good for my self estime. On the over hand, a space is a space!

Of course, I'd probably have to carry lord knows how many forms of ID to prove my age and apply for a badge for the car, thus giving more employment to the bureaucrats.
Parking places for oldies - Ian (Cape Town)
Of course I'd probably have to carry lord knows how many forms of ID to
prove my age and apply for a badge for the car thus giving more employment
to the bureaucrats.

Naaah - beige coat and a trilby hat would do the job...
Parking places for oldies - Round The Bend
Wot, like HJ?
Parking places for oldies - L'escargot
I would imagine that the spaces are for people who are infirm, and not necessarily just old. If fit mothers with children can have designated spaces, why not the infirm?
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Parking places for oldies - Round The Bend
The infirm already have their own disabled spaces. Apparently these new spaces are for oldies - which assume means that they don't necessarily have to be infirm.
Parking places for oldies - L'escargot
You wouldn't catch me parking anywhere near an oldie ~ they're mostly infirm of mind never mind infirm of body!

And if anyone doesn't like me saying that I'll hit them with my pension book!
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Parking places for oldies - Altea Ego
This is really going to far. Whats next graduated parking spaces by age, younger ones further away? how about spaces marked by number of children? or what about sex Male /female? By race?

There is no legislation to back this up, and I will park on them as i wish, as I do with mother and child spaces.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Parking places for oldies - Brian Tryzers
>I will park on them as i wish, as I do with mother and child spaces.

Well, shame on you, TVM! Do courtesy and consideration have to be backed by legislation? The extra width of those parent-and-child spaces makes all the difference when you're trying to strap a toddler into a seat. Finding them all filled by other parents is a mild annoyance; finding them filled by an assortment of oldies, fatties and Discovery/Land Cruiser drivers, who either won't take the trouble to park in a regular space or didn't fancy walking an extra 30 metres in the rain, is infuriating.

That said, the smallest Beest is now almost competent to fasten his own seat belt, so my justification for using these spaces is almost over. So I'll be leaving them to those who really need them, as I hope will you.
Parking places for oldies - Altea Ego
Shame on me my bottom. This is a disease. My local DIY store now has "parent and child spaces" - twenty of them. I don't see too many toddler in push chairs holding two metres of 10mm ply.

As i said its a disease and unless we stop it, 35 year old single white males, will have to park three hundred yards away behind the "gay men with tight trousers" spaces.

"mother and child" spaces get parked on by me - Someone has to make a stand.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Parking places for oldies - flunky
"mother and child" spaces get parked on by me - Someone has to make a
stand.


A noble cause indeed.

Someone I know parked her car in Sainsburys' parent&child bay without child (she has got one, but left it at home), and they slapped an £80 'fine' on her.
Parking places for oldies - Morpheus
As i said its a disease and unless we stop it 35 year old single
white males will have to park three hundred yards away behind the "gay men with tight trousers" spaces.


Got to agree wholeheartedly with this post as a 26 y.o. hetrosexual fit and healthy work hard, pay my taxes and keep myself to myself, criminal reccord free ('cept 1 speeding ticket) male christian, no one gives a flying pink fluffy dice about me...

Next we will have special parking spaces for fat people, bald people, women only, people in high heels, tourists.....

Where does the stupidity end???
Parking places for oldies - Brian Tryzers
>as a ... christian, no one gives a flying pink fluffy dice about me...

But you have the ultimate imaginary friend, Morpheus. What else could you possibly want?
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Parking places for oldies - Lud
my bottom. This is a disease.
behind the "gay men with
tight trousers"
Someone has to make a
stand.


Er, do calm down TVM.
Parking places for oldies - David Horn
>> my bottom. This is a disease.
>> behind the "gay men with
>> tight trousers"
>> Someone has to make a
>> stand.


I never imagined that I'd be contemplating changing my sexuality to get a parking space. :)
Parking places for oldies - Blue {P}
As i said its a disease and unless we stop it 35 year old single
white males will have to park three hundred yards away behind the "gay men with
tight trousers" spaces.


Lol, I can only assume that was at least a little bit TIC, I can't honestly say that I've ever had favourable treatment when it comes to parking, or anything else for that matter, most of my friends also seem to get the same pathetic response from all of our public services as eveybody else. :-)

I personally wouldn't be caught anywhere near a parent and child bay mind, I think it's daft, I prefer to park at the far side of the car park across two bays, far safer!

Blue
Parking places for oldies - Ian (Cape Town)
There is no legislation to back this up and I will park on them as
i wish as I do with mother and child spaces.


Try coralling a couple of toddlers and a shopping trolley across a supermarket carpark, and tell me that the mother-and-kiddies spaces don't make sense...

Unfortunately, like most 'nice ideas', they are open to abuse, same as disabled bays.

off on a tangent - I saw one of Donal McIntyre's show the other day where some git had parked his gallardo across TWO disbaled bays... just so it didn't get scratched.
They also ran up to insonsiderate parkers with a wheelchair saying "seeing as how you are parked in a disabled bay, allow us to give you a lift into the shops..."


Parking places for oldies - deepwith
This reminds me of my mother-in-law who came home after using her OAP bus pass for the first time, absolutely furious because it had been accepted without question or even hesitation! She would have spent all day looking for a space rather than use one designated for the more mature!
Parking places for oldies - dxp55
I have always thought mother and kiddy spaces make sense but they should be at far side of car park - if they are fit enough to have kids then they should be fit enough to walk 100 yrds - change them all to the bendy old people I say
Parking places for oldies - Altea Ego
No one forces you to take your kids to the supermarket. In fact they should be banned. If tescobury want your custom they should provide a creche.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Parking places for oldies - Brian Tryzers
No one forces you to take your kids to the supermarket...

That elicited an audible response I won't type here. I'll give TVM the benefit of the doubt and assume that bit of nonsense was written with tongue in cheek. But, just in case it wasn't, how do children learn about the world they grow up in if not by going along to do things like shopping? The British attitude that says children are inconveniences, to be parked in nurseries and creches, and kept out of the way of real, adult human beings is despicable. They won't learn how to buy a joint of meat, or that 1kg of supermarket corn flakes costs less than 500g of big-brand ones, which taste indistinguishable, by watching videos in a nursery all day.

In any case, if you're taking your children to a supermarket creche, you still have to park your car.

Incidentally, I wouldn't mind at all if the parent spaces were further from the door. It would lessen the temptation to the can-walk-won't-walk crowd.
Parking places for oldies - Altea Ego
No ok, how about teaching them before you even get in the supermarket that where you can park is regulated by some namby pamby jobsworth. How about teachiing them that they will be mollycoddled from cradle to grave and if they want anything all they have to do is moan..

Didnt have mother / baby spaces when my nipper was young, and do you know what? we coped. Really rather well actually. Now aint that strange.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Parking places for oldies - Martin Devon
Didnt have mother / baby spaces when my nipper was young and do you know
what? we coped. Really rather well actually. Now aint that strange.
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My Mum walked there......and back. Country has gone to the Dogs.

MD
Parking places for oldies - Ian (Cape Town)
as mentioned, keeping rein on kiddies in carparks is difficult.
Especially the way some dingbats drive!
Add to that, the parked 4x4s, which create visibility difficulties, and peole reverse out of pays without seeing you/the nipper...
Parking places for oldies - mike hannon
Presumably anyone driving a Honda won't have to provide any other evidence for being an 'oldie'. ;-)
Almost makes me want to visit Hillingdon...but not quite.
Parking places for oldies - helicopter
Oi - watch it young feller me lad.

In my day we didn't have supermarkets never mind parking spaces, just a quick trip to the village shop for a sherbet dab and some gobstoppers.

I do admit to a smugness however when returning to my Honda Tourer fully loaded with shopping , pressing the car key and the tailgate rises up electronically avoiding all that need to fumble with keys in lock , put shopping on the ground etc.

The Hillingdon council guy that I saw interviewed about the spaces did actually give the age as 65 not 50 and said they had only used the bendy old folks symbol on the spaces because that was the internationally recognised sign.

I have only been given seniors discount once and that was at the Civil Rights museum in Memphis, saved me one whole dollar :0)
Parking places for oldies - Ian (Cape Town)
In my day we didn't have supermarkets never mind parking spaces just a quick trip
to the village shop for a sherbet dab and some gobstoppers.


Cue brass band music and small bread-delivery boy on bicycle.
Parking places for oldies - helicopter
It just makes me laugh people complaining about having to walk a few extra yards to the supermarket. Poor dear old souls.

Forget bread delivery boys Ian -my mother baked her own bread , cakes and pies.

It was all delicious .Chicken , lamb, beef , pork etc plus milk , cream , butter eggs and fresh vegetables were all produced on the farm.

When my parents first got married just before the war they lived so far out in the wilds of Northumberland that it was literally 20 miles to the nearest other habitation and probably another ten to anywhere with even a village shop.

They were virtually self sufficient , they maybe shopped twice yearly and goods were transported by horse or on foot .
Parking places for oldies - flunky
I have always thought mother and kiddy spaces make sense but they should be at
far side of car park - if they are fit enough to have kids then
they should be fit enough to walk 100 yrds - change them all to the
bendy old people I say


The problem then is they are more likely to be run over if they have further to walk. The supemarkets could probably be sued.
Parking places for oldies - L'escargot
Not all supermarket carparks are owned/administered by the supermarket. Some ~ Asda in Carcroft for example ~ are local authority carparks.
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Parking places for oldies - PhilW
And if that gets past the swear filter I will be very surprised!
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Parking places for oldies - Falkirk Bairn
Parking places for oldies....

There is one where I live - it is called the cemetery - you can never overstay
Parking places for oldies - Stuartli
Asda in Carcroft for example >>


Same where I live. Our local council never misses a trick to fleece motorists; Asda will pay the parking fee if you spend a certain amount, but it must hit profits overall for each store on an annual basis.
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Parking places for oldies - ForumNeedsModerating
As i said its a disease and unless we stop it, 35 year old single white males, will have to park three hundred yards away behind the "gay men with tight trousers" spaces

At least it wouldn't need much enforcing.
Parking places for oldies - autumnboy
Most of you are moaning about the Oldies do this and the Oldies do that.

Its not them you want worry about when parking your car. Its those who have no respect to other people cars parked alongside with kids, trying to put babies, shopping, Jackets in the back and etc. in or out of cars.

I've seen it done to mine and others, especially as today cars are wider than alot of the older parking slots as they are marked years ago and trying to cram as many cars into an area to get as much revenue.


Parking places for oldies - MGspannerman
having glanced at some of these posts the prejudice, lack of consideration and incivility expressed by some of those postings is quite breathtaking. This site has a swear filter, but sadly it does nothing to eliminate the truly corrosive nature of some of these comments. Shame on you - you know who you are.

MGs.
Parking places for oldies - Martin Devon
Yesterday SWMBO watched some berk knock another cars mirror off in sainsbugs. He got out, picked up the pieces and attempted to place them together on the car. He then went into the shop....yes it is a shop and not a store, and 'hid' at the front for three minutes perhaps thinking that swmbo would believe he'd been gallant. He then came out and departed. Only then did she go in and report the thing, both index numbers etc....Some people.

MD.
Parking places for oldies - billy25
The idea of "Mother an brat" parking spaces is to segregate them from careful owners, anyone who would willingly put thier precious car into an area where ratty mothers and tantrumy spoildy brats are playing up, shoving trolleys an each other into adjacent cars, chipping paint, breaking mirrors, climbing on them, etc, just to make a stand or prove a point, has either too much disposable income, or is wearing very expensive footware, and cant afford to wear off too much sole by walkimg a hundred yards further. :-)
Parking places for oldies - Kevin
I'm with TVM on this one.

With the exception of disabled parking spots I find this creeping trend of privileged parking really rather sad. All it seems to have achieved in my neck of the woods is resentment and smugness in equal measure.

I also don't understand the argument that parents with kids need to be near the entrance because toddlers are difficult to control. If your kids are not under control it doesn't matter how far you are from the entrance. In fact you'd be safer at the remotest part of the parking lot where there isn't a race for parking spots.

Why don't we do what is commonly done in the US where disabled spots are nearest the entrance, followed by narrower places reserved for 'Compact' cars, followed by bigger "Full Size" and "Truck" places further away?

Unless you are disabled, the more space you want the further you have to walk. Seems fair to me.

Kevin...

PS.

Whatever happened to reins for toddlers?
Parking places for oldies - Aprilia
I'm not sure if some of the asinine comments about parent and child spaces are the result of ignorance or selfishness (probably both) - either way they are a fitting metaphor for deterioration of civility and consideration for others. I remember, 15 or so years ago, visiting Barcelona with my wife, who was pregnant at the time and with our other two children. We spent a lot of time on public transport and were amazed at the consideration and helpfullness of the Spanish. Without fail she was offered a seat. Wouldn't often happen now in the UK.
I'm one of those stupid people who helps mothers with prams up steps, holds doors open for following people, says please and thank-you etc.

Had to go to Morrison's a few weeks back. It was very busy and not many spaces. Some jerk had put a Focus ST across two spaces. I was in a clapped out old motor so took some pleasure in 'trying' to get the car into one of the half-spaces he'd left. Naturally it ended up VERY close to the Focus...Perhaps he'll think twice next time.
Parking places for oldies - L'escargot
A hundred yards? That's some carpark!
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Parking places for oldies - daveyjp
A hundred yards? That's some carpark!
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I've just measured the distance from the furthest space to the front door of our local Asda - it comes in at 240m. To the food entrance of the store next door which shares the car park it's 360m! Only time you would have to use these spaces though is the couple of days before Christmas.
Parking places for oldies - L'escargot
Most of you are moaning about the Oldies do this and the Oldies do that.
Its not them you want worry about when parking your car.


It is in the seaside town I live in, which has an unusually high proportion of oldies. A lot of them can't turn their neck and have to reverse using their door mirrors to try (not always successfully!) to see where they're going. Thank goodness that proximity sensors are becoming more popular ~ but even they're only of use if you can still hear well enough!
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Parking places for oldies - Cliff Pope
Surveys have discovered that certain "communities" are under-represented in car parking useage. Only 4.6% of parking places are occupied by asian males over the age of 55, although they account for for 8.3% of the population in certain areas. On the other hand 85% of places are occupied by fat white women in 4X4s, while only forming 50.1% of the population.
This imbalance will be "targeted" by means of parking place quotas, A and B lists, monitoring and compliance officers, and of course further in-depth surveys.
Parking places for oldies - M.M
You laugh Cliff (I presume) but if you have a Tesco Clubcard they already know pretty well everything about your life/habits/social standing etc. Add ANPR to the car park entrance/exit and they'll know more about you than the state.

Perhaps there should be spaces near to the door for buyers of the Value type range... those folks need all the help they can get ;-)

David
Parking places for oldies - MichaelR
When can we have designated spaces for people who care about their cars and don't want scrapes and dents from ignorant, selfish, carefree dolts?
Parking places for oldies - oilrag
Well, as a decade up from the `oldie` spec in the post title, anyone can have my free space because I walk the couple of miles into town and back.

What I want is a dedicated track in the gutter especially for the under 40`s who use a disability scooter as a lifestyle option.

Yes, I mean you Madam, the 20 stone fattie, with the headphones on ( well if "oldie" is acceptable :):) who tries to shove me into the road as you blast up the narrow pavement with the disability scooter on the 8mph setting.

Parking places for oldies - L'escargot
disability scooter on the 8mph setting.


If and when I get one I'm going to get it souped up and fitted with low profile tyres and Maserati air horns etc. I'm hoping that the mind will remain willing long after the flesh has become weak!
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Parking places for oldies - barney100
Here we go again with the generalisations. Over 60 and you can barely get 20 yards without needing a sitdown. I know a lady of 67 who did the New York marathon in 5hrs 20. Her husband who is 70 plus got round in under 5 hours, do they need special parking? Each case should be judged on merit but as in all such matters somebody will abuse whatever system is introduced.
Parking places for oldies - L'escargot
Next year will your forum name change to barney101? ;-)
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Parking places for oldies - mike hannon
Anyone who doesn't believe 'oldies' should have segregated parking well away from everyone else should undergo the following aversion therapy.
Take your nice, shiny, unmarked car and park it in any available space in the East Street car park in Bridport, Dorset - a nice little Georgian market town that looks not unlike Trumpton. Buy your ticket (if you can afford it) and go and stand at the top of the steps by the old school building. Watch the antics of the elderly drivers around your car for half an hour. Your nerves will be shot to pieces and you'll never want to use a public car park again.
I'm 56 by the way...
Parking places for oldies - oilrag
Mike, Its the same at Asda (up here in the Yorkshire) with the under 30s after the kids are dropped off at school.

Any antic will be attempted, even driving around 2 or 3 times, just to get near the door, when the rest of the car park is deserted.

Parking places for oldies - oilrag
L`escargot, I saw one ( dis scooter) that was homemade a few years back. It looked like the base of an industrial pulling machine of some sort and the guy had an armchair mounted on it. (Only in West Yorkshire......... :):)