I always knew Lud was on the edges of the murky underworld, based on his posts in the past, but I never realised just how much he was embroiled in criminal undertakings.
What with his crime and my 9 points we could start our own London gang. You want to be the gay one Lud?
Oh and BTW lud
If I catch you on my surrey patch again you are fish food!
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> their ANPR magic eye (or some other mechanism) told them the MoT had been out of date since, er, harrumph,
Nothing fancy there Lud, that will be the
"cor blimey, look at that shed driving down the road, bound to be something wrong with that, lets give it a tug"
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 10/03/2008 at 19:21
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blimey look at that shed driving down the road bound to be something wrong with that lets give it a tug"
LOL. I fear you may be right there.
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What with his crime and my 9 points we could start our own London gang.
Forgive me AE, but I understood you to be a rabid suburbanite? I'm afraid the smoke proper might prove a bit complex for you.
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Lud
I am east am born and bred. I suckled at the teat of london smoke.
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I am east am born
I see from your demotic delivery that I have misjudged you AE. Still, the effects of even a few years of upward and southwestward mobility are not to be underestimated...
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I know Wp... but it is my general view that motorists, especially with older cars, who imagine themselves never ever to be 'technically illegal' on the road are living in cloud cuckoo land or else are painfully obsessive individuals.
Of course such people, if there are any, can accuse me with justice of being a bit of a slob.
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when my old car goes through the Mot it never ceases to amaze me that the seatbelts pass, they look well frayed to me....i'm sure a young zealous traffic cop could get me on that one....the old girl has her 40th birthday this year.
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If you lot are putting a team together do you need a psuedo hardcase Scottish thug stereotype by any chance ? Got to pay my tax before the end of Jan and could do with a nice little earner.
( Just waiting for WP et al to do the 'ello? 'ello? 'ello? bit now ! )
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what a pantomime we'd all make.........'behind you'
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............. the MOT officer ............... what expired ............... good lord ........... in September ............... by jove ............. well spotted officer ............ thank you so much for the reminder officer ............... an offence ..................... surely not a problem officer ............. I will get my man right on to it officer .................. good day to you officer .............
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Intriguing conversation, Cheddar. Not sure if you people are allowed to put frames around your number plates with messages, but, in a similar vein, there is one here with the message, "Hello Officer. Just put it on the tab".
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A proper crew needs a couple of Geordies - remember the line "There are some tough nuts up North Jack, they won't like you poking around....."
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'Put it away Jack, you know you won't use it.....the gun he means'. :))))
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You're a big man but you're outta shape. With me it's a full-time job. Now behave.
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If you need an extra hand I'll drive up from the west country, put some viagra drops in me eyes and look hard.
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What, no-one chipped in with a sanctimonious leecture yet, or perhaps the feeling is that lud is beyond hope?
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A massive round of applause to AE who posted this link a while ago - it's solid gold
Warning: if you 've seen the film, you're about to lose half an hour of your life
getcartertour.co.uk/
Oh and there's loads of pics of cars in it!
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Howay now lads
Watched 'Get Carter ' originally supping my Newcastle Broon , Woodbine in mouth, shirt off in temperature of minus 6 in my back to back with outside lavvy ( or netty) in Gatesheed ....... :0)
How times have changed...
Sunday watched it again actually supping a rather nice Shiraz in a bungalow in West Sussex- I haven't had a ciggy ( or tab ) since 1972 but I do like a nice cigar.
Brilliant movie and of course Britt Ekland getting her kit off was a major influence on my puberty....
Without giving away the ending to those who have not seen it Jack the 'Smoke' hard man gets his comeuppance .....
Sorry AE and Lud but when it comes to hard - Geordie villians rule OK.
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There is an extraordinary, entirely fortuitous, symmetry to this thread. At the risk of annoying AE and sounding poncy, I will tell you what it is.
My mechanic, who actually deserves the title of engineer, was recommended to me very emphatically (and quite rightly) some time ago by a film director friend. That friend, not an intimate really but someone I see often in passing, is the director of Get Carter (and a lot of other movies).
Sorry. But it seemed mean to keep it to myself.
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>>who actually deserves the title of engineer,
How? Why?
Number_Cruncher
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I was afraid the mention of symmetry would have some people pawing the ground and snorting...
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Sorry Lud, it's like a red rag to a bull!
Its exactly akin to;
I know a really good nurse/builder, so good, she/he's so good, she/he should be called a(n) doctor/architect.
However, what really gets my goat is when companies call their machine operators, mechanics and technicians engineers in order to talk up their charge out rates. It just adds to the public confusion of what engineers actually do.
Engineers don't mend washing machines, household appliances, boilers or photo-copiers (well, they might do as a hobby!, for a bit of fun!) - engineers are more likely to design and manufacture them.
Fundamentally, the problem is that the various engineering institutions don't possess the stones to stand up for their members and demand that engineering becomes a properly registered and controlled profession.
Number_Cruncher
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You've probably all heard it before but read the other day that a mechanic washes his hands before going to the loo, an engineer washes them afterwards.
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Seems to me then that if engineers were that good then mechanics would have nothing to do ;-)
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>>Seems to me then that if engineers were that good then mechanics would have nothing to do
To an extent, that's been borne out by experience. If the cars of the past were being used in the numbers, over the same milage, and under the same servicing regimes as modern cars, workshops would be much more abundant, and overflowing with custom. De-coke at 10,000 miles?
I don't know what the split is when averaged over all garages and all types of garage, but I supect that routine servicing represents the majority of work done on cars. Of course, there are people rooted in the past who refuse to take advantage of more extended service intervals afforded by the modern technology.
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I agree NC, but then I was joking hence the ;-)
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NC
So, by that definition, you would deny Thomas Telford, the first president of the Institution of Civil Engineers, the title of engineer?
Was he just a jumped-up builder then?
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>>you would deny Thomas Telford
No, because his work was to engineer things, he designed, created and managed. There's an extremely strong element of composing the tune, rather than dancing to someone else's.
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Yeah NC, Aprilia's a bit like that too.
Let's not go into the issue of engineers and doctors who aren't as good as the mechanics and nurses they lord it over. We've all seen them though.
My man, an Aussie in I wd guess his late thirties or early forties, calls his firm 'motor engineers'. I've never seen any sign that he is a mere grease monkey except for his black hands. His work is always impeccable, as is his discourse (a bit clipped sometimes, but that's Aussies). He seems to be able to undertake anything. He doesn't overcharge or talk rubbish.
Perhaps he should be regarded as an honorary engineer? I certainly don't intend to ask him what his qualifications are.
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>>who aren't as good
Perhaps its more of a case of horses for courses. I don't think many mechanics could design a crankshaft, and there aren't many professional engineers I'd trust to install one.
>>'motor engineers'
That's exactly what my father called his garage too. Knowing which side my bread was buttered on as someone entirely dependent upon his work for my upbringing, I never pulled him up about it!
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N_C that last paragraph made me laugh.
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I'd trust my chap to put a crankshaft in any day, and to get the end float right too (which is more than I even tried to do the only time I ever assembled a rebuilt engine).
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I was intrigued by the reference to the body scan for the mechanic. Was that a precaution to make sure he hadn't swallowed a washer or something while lying underneath?
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Engineers don't mend washing machines household appliances boilers or photo-copiers (well they might do as a hobby! for a bit of fun!) - engineers are more likely to design and manufacture them.
There's an old adage that goes: "You only become a writer when someone else calls you a writer". Maybe it's the same for engineers.
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