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We have a filter right which is a standard traffic light, so you can only move on green, (on a different junction to the one I was referring to earlier). And also ones with a stand alone green arrow, go if on or road clear and main light green.
Edited by Old Navy on 23/08/2009 at 18:37
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never realy thought about this? , just do what looks natural,
however , if a Large HGV , was turning right , and you drove down the lengh of it , and were stopped turning right by another car , if the wagon set off , it would crush you?
horrible thought , but I have seen cars crushed at junctions by HGVs
a few weeks ago , a HGV turning right on to a side road was in a two lane que , near some traffic lights , as he turned right , a large fork truck fastened to the back of it , lifted a single decker bus up onto 2 wheels , as it hit it.
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as he turned right a large fork truck fastened to the back of it lifted a single decker bus up onto 2 wheels as it hit it.
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Bus driver put himself in a dangerous position, he should have been aware of tail swing. If it was an artic that was "bent" the driver may not have been able to see the bus.
Edited by Old Navy on 23/08/2009 at 18:41
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Bus driver put himself in a dangerous position he should have been aware of tail swing.
Difficult one Navy, all cases are different, who put themselves in the line of fire, the bus or the truck driver.
Regardless a good driver should be aware of whats happening at his rear end!? especially if the vehicle has especially long rear overhang as in this case.
In situations like this where a dangerous situation could develop i tend to straddle both lanes to stop anyone getting themselves trapped....i don't do it unless needed mind, and it is my responsibility to check before actually turning IMO.
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Fair comment GB, I was taught to "take as much room as you need".
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yes you are correct I was/am a witness to this , as I was working close by.
at the time in Preston lancs , there was a "bus war" going on between stagecoarch and the local bus company (guess who won?)
anyway there were a large amount of "hopper" type buses running around passing each other at bus stops. those were driven by reletivly newly test passed people.
google "preston bus wars" , and see the tactics,
note now this is over , all the new buses have disapered , and we now have a fleet of old buses (local) repainted , with a rize in fares.
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at the time in Preston lancs there was a "bus war" going on between stagecoarch and the local bus company (guess who won?)
Would it have been the cowboys on the stagecoach's?
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a few weeks ago a HGV turning right on to a side road was in a two lane que near some traffic lights as he turned right a large fork truck fastened to the back of it lifted a single decker bus up onto 2 wheels as it hit it.
I carry one of those things occasionally and one big problem is (assuming it's a curtain-side body) that you can't see it. It follows therefore that it is very easy to forget it's on the back and your rear overhang is a good four feet more than usual. In fact, the only time you can never forget it's on the back is when the truck is empty, it's like driving a see-saw!
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It depends on what the other, main, lights show.
If the green is a general green, then it's OK to turn right if the way is clear.
If the main light shows a green as an up arrow, then only traffic going straight ahead may proceed if the way is clear.
Green does NOT mean go!
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>>>>>Edit...Hi Pat, keep the shiny side up..;) <<<<<<
Sad day today GB, I have just hung up my keys for the last time after 29 years of lorry driving. I desperately wanted to reach 30 yrs but Arthritis and the winter coming, proved just a bit more of a challenge that I was looking for.
Instead I do a 'Train a Trainer Course at the end of September to become a Drivers CPC Trainer so I shall still be in the industry.
Sorry for going off topic Mods:)
Pat
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm a rare poster on here but a frequent reader and always interested by everyone's views/posts.
I guess there is no 'right' way and common sense must prevail! :-)
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bt, yes, good point, I'd agree with that.
JH
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All the best Pat, at least we now have a quality car driver on the road!
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Thanks Old Navy but I have to admit.........I'm carp in a car :)
Pat
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Thanks Old Navy but I have to admit.........I'm carp in a car :)
No you're not, you're old school and nothing on this earth would make you blow your own trumpet, apart from that if you claim to be any good then they expect perfection..;)
Sorry to hear you've hung the keys up Pat, came close to your your yard on Friday (KL to St Ives rd) and i always keep an eye out for a fair maiden at the wheel of the blue motors but never knowingly spotted you, you'd know me, look for grey haired old fool with ruddy appearance...bit like a negative.
Glad you've found a niche though and the very best of luck for the future...trust you'll keep an eye on us here and put your tuppence in often.
I've given meself 2 more years on the cars, then all being well the gaff is paid up and they (the new experts that run most car firm these days) can carry their own blasted cars.
I may well continue on the road, but i'll hopefully get something easier.
Sorry about the topic drift Mods, but the road is worse for old school proper truck drivers like Pat getting out.
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>>Passing in front seems more logical though the view forward is not as good.>>
It is not more logical than passing each other driver's side to driver's side, which then gives both of you maximum vision of oncoming traffic.
If the oncoming traffic is held up by the car the your right waiting to turn behind you, then the first oncoming driver should leave a space for you to turn safely.
Turning right in front of an oncoming vehicle whose driver is also intending to turn right is dangerous as your view of other vehicles coming towards you, usually at speed, is considerably restricted.
Better to wait a bit longer and be sure than just another accident statistic; turning right accidents are very prevalent, many of them due to failing to ensure maximum visibility of oncoming traffic.
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