Vauxhall Signum - J Bonington Jagworth
Having spotted yet another new Astra with its bonnet undone on the way home today, I remembered that I have yet to see a Signum on the road. Have any been sold and, if so, will they be the secondhand buy of all time? I'm not particularly enamoured, but I find it hard to resist a bargain...
Vauxhall Signum - Aprilia
I have actually seen a couple. I have even seen some for sale s/hand - and they *were* at a bargain price!
Vauxhall Signum - hxj

Seen plenty.

Most surprised recently to see two being driven by baseball capped dudes with their mates and music blaring out through Birmingham!

Maybe you should buy one new and become more hip and trendy than you already are.
Vauxhall Signum - Quinny100
I see a couple driving to work every day, and one of my colleagues has one. Bought it ex-demo very cheap and he's been very pleased with it.
Vauxhall Signum - Aprilia
Seen plenty.
Most surprised recently to see two being driven by baseball capped
dudes with their mates and music blaring out through Birmingham!
Maybe you should buy one new and become more hip and
trendy than you already are.


Probably a couple of Vauxhall salesmen 'off duty'.
Vauxhall Signum - Marc
JBJ - see this thread from April. They do seem to be bargains especially the large engined, top spec petrols

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=21575&...e
Vauxhall Signum - Baskerville
dudes with their mates and music blaring out through Birmingham!


Could Birmingham be the biggest subwoofer of all time?
Vauxhall Signum - hxj

More than likely, probably a good use for most of it, having sat in huge queues following the closure of the A38(M)/M6 Junction.

But at least I got the right two/to/too!
Vauxhall Signum - J Bonington Jagworth
Thanks all. I certainly hadn't thought of it as an accessory to hipness, but it would probably need more than that to raise mine... :-)
Vauxhall Signum - pdc {P}
I've been driving around in a signum for 4 weeks (and 2300 miles) now. it's the hire car I've been given while my car is repaired after some nice lady with a white van re-arranged its rear end at a red traffic light.

Don't really like the signum. Plus point is its large boot, and the seat is comfortable. other than that it is pants. it is cheap and nasty on the inside, and looks awful from the out.

I actually wrote more about it in the thread about courtesy cars.
Vauxhall Signum - Kuang
I saw a black debadged Signum estate a few days back in Leicester, with very heavily tinted glass, a subtle lowering job and some extremely nice alloys. I have to say it looked like it meant business, especially from the back - I was quite pleasantly surprised :)
Vauxhall Signum - Truckosaurus
We've probably all seen plenty of Signums on the road, we just haven't noticed because they look so much like the Vectra estate.
Vauxhall Signum - SpamCan61 {P}
I didn't think there was a Signum estate?; it's just that the Vectra estate is based on the Signum floorpan, and looks like a stretched Signum.
Vauxhall Signum - Kuang
Sorry, it was a terminology mistake on my part - I always subconsciously pidgeonhole cars of that shape as estates, even when they clearly aren't :) It was definitely a Signum though - the rear is quite distinctive.
Vauxhall Signum - Chas{P}
The only ones I've seen always have 'Vauxhall.co.uk' on the bottom of the number plate.

The Signum was built for GM UK managers and directors to drive. Just like the Peugeot 607 for Peugeot Directors.

:-)

Vauxhall Signum - J Bonington Jagworth
"The Signum was built for GM UK managers and directors to drive. Just like the Peugeot 607 for Peugeot Directors"

Interesting observation. Which do you think will depreciate faster?
Vauxhall Signum - No Do$h
When you speak of such cars it's more usual to use terms such as "economic disaster" rather than depreciation. See also Alfa 166.

Oh, and if anyone would like a buy a new 166 can they get it in black with the tan leather and run it for a couple of years so I can buy it off you for 86p in 2006 please?

Thanks.

No Dosh.
Vauxhall Signum - Malcolm_L
Question is will it sell more units than the Vauxhall Sintra?
Vauxhall Signum - Kuang
Dunno, do the electrics work on this one? ;)
Vauxhall Signum - Victorbox
Look Vauxhall think it is a wonderful bargain! www.vauxhallheritage.com/Articles/wk04-22/040526_s...p
Vauxhall Signum - J Bonington Jagworth
LOL! That smacks of desperation, rather. £1400 does sound rather a lot for a Satnav...
Vauxhall Signum - Kuang
But, but... it has a 'mono-chromatic' display!

(sounds a lot better than black & white I s'pose.. wonder if the roadtax is cheaper? ;)
Vauxhall Signum - J Bonington Jagworth
"wonder if the roadtax is cheaper?"

LOL! Perhaps there's also a discount if you're registered blind...

It does sounds horribly cheapskate. How much more can a colour LCD cost?
Vauxhall Signum - pdc {P}
It's not black and white. it's more orange on brown, but you can invert it to be brown on orange!
Vauxhall Signum - Kuang
Ooh, tasteful.. I'm having a 1970s flocked wallpaper flashback :)
Vauxhall Signum - Vin {P}
You may all scoff, but someone is going to get a real bargain when they buy one of these second hand in a year or two.

I was told that my Omega would:

Be underpowered
Not handle
Have no image
Look naff
Break down all the time
Guzzle fuel

And (in my opinion) it's done none of these, yet was still dirt cheap (£9,000 odd at 18 months).

I have no doubt the Signum will be as good. I won't buy one because it's front wheel drive, but I bet when people get them second hand they will love them the way I love my Omega - by then someone else will have taken the depreciation hit.

V
Vauxhall Signum - Robbie
I was told that my Omega would:
Be underpowered
Not handle
Have no image
Look naff
Break down all the time
Guzzle fuel
And (in my opinion) it's done none of these, yet was
still dirt cheap (£9,000 odd at 18 months).


I bought a new Omega 2.5 V6 in October '94. Best car I've owned, and kept it until March this year when I changed it for a Honda Accord. It was the most reliable car I've had, and apart from tyres, front pads, exhaust system and battery, it never needed anything else doing to it.

I still have the Autocar or Motor review on it, somewhere, when they compared it very favourably with the BMW 5 series and Mercedes.
Vauxhall Signum - J Bonington Jagworth
"someone is going to get a real bargain"

Hence my original post. I wonder how they will compare to, say, the Kia Magentis?

It amuses me rather that large, durable cars lose so much value, while little buzzboxes that wear out twice as quickly hold their price.
Vauxhall Signum - Vin {P}
"It amuses me rather that large, durable cars lose so much value"

I think part of it is the attitude that my Dad had when I bought the Omega, namely "that's going to kill you on fuel". Then I told him that I get 31mpg while a mate of mine with a Corsa 1.4(1.3?) gets 26mpg because he's thrashing the thing all the time. And you know what, my Dad doesn't believe me.

In general, I think there's an attitude that big cars cost drastically more to run than small cars, hence their value.

V
Vauxhall Signum - J Bonington Jagworth
Quite agree - fuel cost is the thing that people notice most, when in fact it's not even the major item for most people (when you add tax, insurance, depreciation and maintenance). The overall difference, even if your big car does use more, is not likely to be more than a few percent (and may well be more than cancelled out by low purchase cost and longevity).
Vauxhall Signum - Kuang
That's what I keep telling myself, but I still can't bring myself to start looking for a Mustang ;)
Vauxhall Signum - spikeyhead {p}
I've been a passenger in one, but haven't driven it. I've only travelled a few hundred yards through a carpark, not enough to gain any opinion other than it looked ugly, unlike the lady that was driving it.

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Vauxhall Signum - blue_haddock
I saw one earlier today pulling out of stafford services - what an ugly thing! the Omega estate looked nice but the Signum got a good beating with the ugly stick!
Vauxhall Signum - Sofa Spud
I've seen a few Signums about. This Signum thread follows on nicely from the recent Renault Vel Satis one. Two of a kind?

Cheers, Sofa Spud
Vauxhall Signum - J500ANT
Partner and I have been considering a car larger than the SEAT Leon we have, and test drove a Mondeo Zetec S TDCi (130). I've read these are recommened but i'd prefer an auto. There appear to be very very few Mondeo diesel autos about and we widened the search to the Vectras or Signums.

1yr old Signum 3.0 V6 CDTi auto Elite with all the toys in silver, £13995. Sounds quite a stonking car for the money, but would we be better off waiting for a Mondeo TDCi auto to come along?

Tony
Vauxhall Signum - No Do$h
The only problem with the signum will be the depreciation. Oh, and the fact that as a 3.0 it will be thirstier than the Mondeo.

If you plan on keeping the car for a long time, I would go for the Signum. Over time I suspect it will become more popular as everyone and his dog has a used Mondeo on offer but how many people have a fully loaded Signum? Rarity can be to your advantage, particularly when accompanied by all the toys fitted to the Signum.

There's also a school of thought that says a lazy 3.0 is going to be stressed a heck of a lot less than the Mondeo 2.0.
Vauxhall Signum - No Do$h
Hmmmm, that fuel economy.....

Performance (manufacturer\'s figures) Fuel economy mpg

Maximum speed (mph) 135
Acceleration 0-60mph 8.9
Urban driving 25.7
Extra-urban driving 48.7
Combined figure 36.7


It\'s pretty much on a par with the Mondeo.

I would go for it, but only if you pln to keep it at least 3 years.
Vauxhall Signum - THe Growler
I just read HJ's review of this and under "What To Watch For" he has commented:

"Roo soon to say".

Does this mean it's really a re-badged Holden?
I think we should be told.
Vauxhall Signum - J Bonington Jagworth
"Roo soon to say"

Given that HJ has to codify some of his ruder comments, I took it that it was a load of dingo's kidneys... :-)
Vauxhall Signum - J500ANT
Update:

We have decided that as my left knee is deteriorating at a rapid rate an auto is essential, and have found the following cars in budget (all 03 or 53 plates):
Signum 3.0 Elite CDTi
Mondeo Zetec S TDCi 130 auto estate
Vectra 2.2 dti SXI auto estate
(A Vectra Elite 3.0 CDTi estate is £3-4k over budget)

According to the What Car thing the Signum is hit harder than a Vectra 4dr saloon for depreciation! I cant see that myself, its no less worthy than the standard Vectra hatchback surely? Anyhow, of those, the Vectra SXi estate holds its money best.

Its got to be kept for a couple of years so I expect the Signum it'll be, and fingers crossed it'll hold its value like a Vectra hatch.......... (And that the first time those words have ever been used in the same sentence in that order LOL)

Tony
Vauxhall Signum - J500ANT
According to Evo, Mr P Wheeler ex owner of TVR Engineering Ltd spent the first of his £??m on a 1yr old Vauxhall Signum, so when we get one we'll be in good company!

Went along to our local dealer to look at a petrol automatic one theyve had for a considerable time. They offered us £6000 for the Leon TDi S. It was originally a Channel Islands hire car but SEAT UK class it as a UK car and it has warranty til next March, but the dealer INSISTS it should be classed as a European import and value it as such. Won't be getting it from them then.........

Tony