If a battery guarantee isn't effectively unconditional, then it is effectively a worthless scam, since AFAIK they can have no knowledge of how it was treated. Your CTEK might have killed it, for example,and thats probably the way I'd bet, but they wouldn't be able to prove that
It MIGHT be possible to deduce persistent low charge states from the morphology of sulfate dendrites on the plates, but you would need a scanning electron microscope and more postdocs on the staff than Halfords usually field at the branch level,
The only exceptions I can think of would be evidence of physical damage (burning/melting suggesting shorting, for example), or, (if it was a maintenance possible FLA, my preferred Yuasa type, if you still get those in The Yook) if cells were low on electrolyte, suggesting it hadn't been topped up.
Assuming there is no mileage clause in the guarantee (or if there is, that you can prove that you didn't exceed it, perhaps via MOT records) - (Hmm, I suppose Halfords MIGHT check these) might be worth a stern letter to head office.
If not, custom elsewhere in future.
Edited by edlithgow on 17/08/2025 at 02:55
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Well, a good result in that a different branch exchanged the battery without any problems. When this branch tested the battery the result was a clear failure. No quibbles, no discussion. A straight swap. What a difference properly trained staff make. Even watching how they tested the battery it was so clear the first branch had no idea what they were doing. Incidentally, the email to Halfords HQ has not been replied to but, in fairness, it is peak holiday time. May I once again thank the forum members for their comments and encouragement.
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Well done for your persistence in getting a satisfactory result.
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I have always fitted Yuasa batteries believing them to be one of the best, now this thread implies this is not longer the case what brand would members recommend as a suitable replacement for my average family cars?
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I have always fitted Yuasa batteries believing them to be one of the best, now this thread implies this is not longer the case what brand would members recommend as a suitable replacement for my average family cars?
What this thread actually tells me is simply Yuasa batteries are fine, its the spotty loonies at Halfords that are the issue.
The OP got his replaced under warranty just like he should have initially.
JohnF had one fail after a year, got a replacement and that lasted 6 years.
So 2 batteries fail, both replaced under warranty.
How long did JohnF expect his to last, 6 years is not that bad. At £60 a battery that is £10 a year or 3 coffees a year. Don't buy coffees and put the money in a pot ready for the next battery.
My last Yuasa battery on the Caterham lasted 7 years 4 months. Did I complain, most certainly did not. Went to the same factors and bought an identical battery.
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Well done to the op for getting a result, Yuasa along with Bosch are probably the premium brand's when it comes to battery's, wouldn't touch a Lucas, Lion or Halfords own brand battery.
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Good result. It just shows how important training is in an organisation but sadly it is often lacking as it costs. I see this almost every day at my employer. I suppose we all have different opinions on how long something should last but personally I would be happy with anything from five years with a battery. A lot will depend on the usage pattern.
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Car batteries seem to least me 8 years from new. I usually replace them with Varta Blue. Never had one of those long enough for it to fail.The Varta Blue and the Bosch blue are the same batteries, or at least they appear identical.
What usually knackers lead acid batteries prematurely is deep discharge, and especially being left to go flat and left that way for any length of time.
Car batteries in general stay fairly full charged provided the car is used regularly for more than a mile or two. hence 8 years or more is not uncommon.
I found out a lot about batteries when we had a narrow boat.The battery management system created the impression that a 400Ah battery bank could be used to provide some approaching 400Ah. We soon found out that resulted in the batteries lasting about a year. Stick to 50% maximum discharge and they will last for several years.
I replaced the battery on the MX-5 prophylactically at 6 years. It's a small battery, and whilst I don't let it go flat it can be left for a week or two without being used which results in partial discharge. I do leave it on a battery minder in winter.
I've gone off CTEKs having had a couple fail. The £15-£20 Aldi and Lidl ones are good value but the ones I've had would stay off if there was a power interruption - not an unusual occurrence here, The CTEKs reset themselves.
I'm 'currently' using one of these. I like it because it will do 3A or 10A, and also act as a power supply if necessary
www.amazon.co.uk/Victron-Energy-Blue-Smart-Charger...B
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Is it worth it? That seems to be around the price of a new battery?
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Is it worth it? That seems to be around the price of a new battery?
Arguably not, I could manage with my remaining CTEK 3.8A and an old Aldi one I still have, but the quicker charge option has been handy a couple of times and it's cheaper than the CTEK 10A version. It comes with Bluetooth for remote monitoring/settings and shows start and end voltage, actual charge rate, and total charge delivered, which gives more of a clue to the state of the battery and its remaining capacity. It goes from float into a storage mode if left on (as the CTEK does to be fair).
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Car batteries seem to least me 8 years from new. I usually replace them with Varta Blue. Never had one of those long enough for it to fail.The Varta Blue and the Bosch blue are the same batteries, or at least they appear identical.
What usually knackers lead acid batteries prematurely is deep discharge, and especially being left to go flat and left that way for any length of time.
Car batteries in general stay fairly full charged provided the car is used regularly for more than a mile or two. hence 8 years or more is not uncommon.
I found out a lot about batteries when we had a narrow boat.The battery management system created the impression that a 400Ah battery bank could be used to provide some approaching 400Ah. We soon found out that resulted in the batteries lasting about a year. Stick to 50% maximum discharge and they will last for several years.
I replaced the battery on the MX-5 prophylactically at 6 years. It's a small battery, and whilst I don't let it go flat it can be left for a week or two without being used which results in partial discharge. I do leave it on a battery minder in winter.
I've gone off CTEKs having had a couple fail. The £15-£20 Aldi and Lidl ones are good value but the ones I've had would stay off if there was a power interruption - not an unusual occurrence here, The CTEKs reset themselves.
I'm 'currently' using one of these. I like it because it will do 3A or 10A, and also act as a power supply if necessary
www.amazon.co.uk/Victron-Energy-Blue-Smart-Charger...B
There's an old thread where I link to Youtube reviews by an electronics engineer of the CTEK, Aldi/Lidl, and my cheapo Chinese charger (They are all. of course, Chinese, but the CTEK isn't very cheapo) and he was pretty scathing about the CTEK, IIRC.
LiFePO are now the thing, allowing deeper cycling but thats a bit more expense and complication than I want to get into at this stage
Thinking about maybe getting a supercap supplementary/emergency starter for my boat engine, which might allow me to use deep cycle batteries (perhaps 2 6V "golf cart" in series) that otherwise arent optimal for engine starting,
Simplest would be an off-the-shelf supercap engine starter, but this would be a bit overspecified for my use.
Also need to get a starting handle, though that is apparently quite difficult to use on the 1GM10 which doesn't have much flywheel mass or any glowplugs
Edited by edlithgow on 27/08/2025 at 03:12
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Car batteries seem to least me 8 years from new.
The life of a battery clearly depends mostly on how (and how much) it has been used, but it seems that a significant proportion are sub-standard from the word go. The original battery in my Pug 207 diesel lasted 13 years IIRC - I changed it when it began to sound tired as winter approached. Can't remember what make it was, but it was clearly a good'un.
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What this thread actually tells me is simply Yuasa batteries are fine, its the spotty loonies at Halfords that are the issue...........JohnF had one fail after a year, got a replacement and that lasted 6 years.
How long did JohnF expect his to last, 6 years is not that bad. At £60 a battery that is £10 a year....
Six yrs might have been acceptable last century but not nowadays for a decent battery...which for the A8 cost considerably more than £60!
My records show that our 2000 Ford Focus battery was replaced in 2006, then 2020. My 1980 TR7 had cheapie replacements in1984, 1991, 1996, 2002, 2007...and then 2021, because for the last twenty years of infrequent use (c.400 miles p.a.) I twist off the +terminal cable every time it returns to the garage.
Edited by John F on 27/08/2025 at 11:00
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