Yuasa battery question - Ex Alfa mail

Firstly, may i say how refreshing it is to still get such solid and pragmatic comments on this forum. I have been a largely silent "follower" for decades, watching as new contributors take up the mantle of automotive "wisdom". On a personal note, all my big car decisions have been sounded out here and the feedback was always so helpful.

Anyway, yesterday evening i took my three year old Yuasa battery back to Halfords as it had failed. It has a five year guarantee. To cut a somewhat surreal conversation short it was not exchanged as it had failed due to "being used too much". Seems the test device showed it had just worn out. The young man explained that it showed I was driving high mileages (which is classed as over 12k pa). The battery was in a Toyota MR2 that is garaged in winter and on the road for the summer months. Over the winter it is connected to a CTEK conditioner. Since March it has performed perfectly. It failed suddenly whilst driving, luckily close to a local and trusted garage.

So the question is simply, are Halfords right? The "techie" guys at the MR2 club have strong views, but then they often do! Hence seeking a more balanced and nuanced opinion. Many thanks.

Yuasa battery question - paul 1963

There trying it on, a 5 year guarantee is a 5 year guarantee irrespective of use, go and make a fuss preferably with the manager.

Edit: you could use your mot history to prove your not doing high mileage.

Edited by paul 1963 on 16/08/2025 at 10:11

Yuasa battery question - Xileno

That's disappointing - I've had good service from Yuasa batteries and also from Halfords when I've needed to return something (non-battery) that wasn't up to standard.

If they insist on taking their line then ask then to provide the section of the warranty that is worded in such a way that they think they don't have to exchange it.

Yuasa battery question - skidpan

From memory a Yuasa 5000 series battery had a 5 year guarantee, a 3000 series battery a 3 year guarantee. So which battery do you have?

Here is a link to the Yuasa 5000 series batteries on Halfords website, it clearly says 5 year guarantee. www.halfords.com/search?q=Yuasa%20Silver

But those prices seem very expensive to me, bought a Yuasa YBX5063 from our local factors last October (seems to be the exact same as the one at Halfords) and it was £56 with a 5 year guarantee.

Yuasa battery question - elekie&a/c doctor
Sounds to me that the battery has been used/ maintained perfectly adequately. The battery tester they’ve used only shows battery voltage and cca capacity. I’m intrigued to know how this tester is able to know many miles it’s run .
Yuasa battery question - gordonbennet

I've read several comments over recent years saying Yuasa batteries arn't what they used to be, that hasn't been my experience.

Firstly, are you absolutely sure your charging system is up to par, several years ago my Landcruiser was getting slower turning over and i just assumed batteries were past their prime, then i realised the ignition light wasn't illuminating at all when i turned on, easy to miss there's about a dozen other lights come on with the ignition, recon alternator sorted that.

Please get the lad to show you the mileage counter on his tester, we're all interested in this one.

As for winter smart charging, i lost an almost new Varta due to a CTEK failing which i wasn't aware of.

Edited by gordonbennet on 16/08/2025 at 10:48

Yuasa battery question - RT

Yuasa aren't the pinnacle of battery brands they once were - after decades of successfully using old car batteries as leisure batteries in my caravan I finally bought a Yuasa leisure battery - but it started t fail after a couple of years despite our usage regime which was always on a mains hook-up when away and hooked up at home, so always on a smart charger.

Yuasa battery question - Ex Alfa mail

Thank you for the prompt replies and insights. Xileno and Skidpan, I did look at the guarantee last night and the key thing that stood out was that the result of their battery check is final. And Paul, the young man I eventually spoke with was the manager. Gordon, a fair comment about the charging and my local garage, which is excellent, has tested the electrical system and all is well. In fairness, an MR2 is remarkably reliable despite its age. The only issues we've had over five cars owned have been linked to aftermarket additions. The CTEK system is also working well. I've always bought heavy and cumbersome items from local shops in case I need to return them for any reason and a car battery fits that category. Anyway, I have been encouraged by these comments, especially yours Doc, to take to my keyboard and write to Halfords HQ. I will of course feedback any response. Many thanks again.

Edited by Ex Alfa mail on 16/08/2025 at 11:42

Yuasa battery question - kiss (keep it simple)

High mileage usually indicates that the battery is always fully charged, which is good for their longevity. Frequent short runs with all the electrics on is far worse. I remember seeing an Exide data sheet which was used by vendors to determine battery condition and the likely cause. One of them was " battery has reached end of service life". What happened to the Halfords "No quibble guarantee"?

Yuasa battery question - RT

Whilst I can understand that present battery condition can be assessed but I'm at a loss to understand how how the usage pattern can be assed from its present condition.

If Halfords are going solely on the car's mileage then they should either word the warranty with a time and mileage limit - or pay up if it's only worded as a time limit.

Yuasa battery question - John F

I also had a bad experience with Yuasa batteries from Halfords - bought an expensive one for my Audi A8 in June 2014, it failed in Sep 2015 (5yr guarantee) and they replaced it without question. Sadly, this also failed in Dec 2021 so bought a Tayna Endoline on line. Fingers crossed......

Yuasa battery question - edlithgow

If a battery guarantee isn't effectively unconditional, then it is effectively a worthless scam, since AFAIK they can have no knowledge of how it was treated. Your CTEK might have killed it, for example,and thats probably the way I'd bet, but they wouldn't be able to prove that

It MIGHT be possible to deduce persistent low charge states from the morphology of sulfate dendrites on the plates, but you would need a scanning electron microscope and more postdocs on the staff than Halfords usually field at the branch level,

The only exceptions I can think of would be evidence of physical damage (burning/melting suggesting shorting, for example), or, (if it was a maintenance possible FLA, my preferred Yuasa type, if you still get those in The Yook) if cells were low on electrolyte, suggesting it hadn't been topped up.

Assuming there is no mileage clause in the guarantee (or if there is, that you can prove that you didn't exceed it, perhaps via MOT records) - (Hmm, I suppose Halfords MIGHT check these) might be worth a stern letter to head office.

If not, custom elsewhere in future.

Edited by edlithgow on 17/08/2025 at 02:55

Yuasa battery question - Ex Alfa mail

Well, a good result in that a different branch exchanged the battery without any problems. When this branch tested the battery the result was a clear failure. No quibbles, no discussion. A straight swap. What a difference properly trained staff make. Even watching how they tested the battery it was so clear the first branch had no idea what they were doing. Incidentally, the email to Halfords HQ has not been replied to but, in fairness, it is peak holiday time. May I once again thank the forum members for their comments and encouragement.

Yuasa battery question - FP

Well done for your persistence in getting a satisfactory result.

Yuasa battery question - Lrac

I have always fitted Yuasa batteries believing them to be one of the best, now this thread implies this is not longer the case what brand would members recommend as a suitable replacement for my average family cars?

Yuasa battery question - skidpan

I have always fitted Yuasa batteries believing them to be one of the best, now this thread implies this is not longer the case what brand would members recommend as a suitable replacement for my average family cars?

What this thread actually tells me is simply Yuasa batteries are fine, its the spotty loonies at Halfords that are the issue.

The OP got his replaced under warranty just like he should have initially.

JohnF had one fail after a year, got a replacement and that lasted 6 years.

So 2 batteries fail, both replaced under warranty.

How long did JohnF expect his to last, 6 years is not that bad. At £60 a battery that is £10 a year or 3 coffees a year. Don't buy coffees and put the money in a pot ready for the next battery.

My last Yuasa battery on the Caterham lasted 7 years 4 months. Did I complain, most certainly did not. Went to the same factors and bought an identical battery.

Yuasa battery question - paul 1963

Well done to the op for getting a result, Yuasa along with Bosch are probably the premium brand's when it comes to battery's, wouldn't touch a Lucas, Lion or Halfords own brand battery.

Yuasa battery question - Xileno

Good result. It just shows how important training is in an organisation but sadly it is often lacking as it costs. I see this almost every day at my employer. I suppose we all have different opinions on how long something should last but personally I would be happy with anything from five years with a battery. A lot will depend on the usage pattern.

Yuasa battery question - Manatee

Car batteries seem to least me 8 years from new. I usually replace them with Varta Blue. Never had one of those long enough for it to fail.The Varta Blue and the Bosch blue are the same batteries, or at least they appear identical.

What usually knackers lead acid batteries prematurely is deep discharge, and especially being left to go flat and left that way for any length of time.

Car batteries in general stay fairly full charged provided the car is used regularly for more than a mile or two. hence 8 years or more is not uncommon.

I found out a lot about batteries when we had a narrow boat.The battery management system created the impression that a 400Ah battery bank could be used to provide some approaching 400Ah. We soon found out that resulted in the batteries lasting about a year. Stick to 50% maximum discharge and they will last for several years.

I replaced the battery on the MX-5 prophylactically at 6 years. It's a small battery, and whilst I don't let it go flat it can be left for a week or two without being used which results in partial discharge. I do leave it on a battery minder in winter.

I've gone off CTEKs having had a couple fail. The £15-£20 Aldi and Lidl ones are good value but the ones I've had would stay off if there was a power interruption - not an unusual occurrence here, The CTEKs reset themselves.

I'm 'currently' using one of these. I like it because it will do 3A or 10A, and also act as a power supply if necessary

www.amazon.co.uk/Victron-Energy-Blue-Smart-Charger...B

Yuasa battery question - bathtub tom

Is it worth it? That seems to be around the price of a new battery?

Yuasa battery question - Manatee

Is it worth it? That seems to be around the price of a new battery?

Arguably not, I could manage with my remaining CTEK 3.8A and an old Aldi one I still have, but the quicker charge option has been handy a couple of times and it's cheaper than the CTEK 10A version. It comes with Bluetooth for remote monitoring/settings and shows start and end voltage, actual charge rate, and total charge delivered, which gives more of a clue to the state of the battery and its remaining capacity. It goes from float into a storage mode if left on (as the CTEK does to be fair).

Yuasa battery question - edlithgow

Car batteries seem to least me 8 years from new. I usually replace them with Varta Blue. Never had one of those long enough for it to fail.The Varta Blue and the Bosch blue are the same batteries, or at least they appear identical.

What usually knackers lead acid batteries prematurely is deep discharge, and especially being left to go flat and left that way for any length of time.

Car batteries in general stay fairly full charged provided the car is used regularly for more than a mile or two. hence 8 years or more is not uncommon.

I found out a lot about batteries when we had a narrow boat.The battery management system created the impression that a 400Ah battery bank could be used to provide some approaching 400Ah. We soon found out that resulted in the batteries lasting about a year. Stick to 50% maximum discharge and they will last for several years.

I replaced the battery on the MX-5 prophylactically at 6 years. It's a small battery, and whilst I don't let it go flat it can be left for a week or two without being used which results in partial discharge. I do leave it on a battery minder in winter.

I've gone off CTEKs having had a couple fail. The £15-£20 Aldi and Lidl ones are good value but the ones I've had would stay off if there was a power interruption - not an unusual occurrence here, The CTEKs reset themselves.

I'm 'currently' using one of these. I like it because it will do 3A or 10A, and also act as a power supply if necessary

www.amazon.co.uk/Victron-Energy-Blue-Smart-Charger...B

There's an old thread where I link to Youtube reviews by an electronics engineer of the CTEK, Aldi/Lidl, and my cheapo Chinese charger (They are all. of course, Chinese, but the CTEK isn't very cheapo) and he was pretty scathing about the CTEK, IIRC.

LiFePO are now the thing, allowing deeper cycling but thats a bit more expense and complication than I want to get into at this stage

Thinking about maybe getting a supercap supplementary/emergency starter for my boat engine, which might allow me to use deep cycle batteries (perhaps 2 6V "golf cart" in series) that otherwise arent optimal for engine starting,

Simplest would be an off-the-shelf supercap engine starter, but this would be a bit overspecified for my use.

Also need to get a starting handle, though that is apparently quite difficult to use on the 1GM10 which doesn't have much flywheel mass or any glowplugs

Edited by edlithgow on 27/08/2025 at 03:12

Yuasa battery question - Andrew-T

Car batteries seem to least me 8 years from new.

The life of a battery clearly depends mostly on how (and how much) it has been used, but it seems that a significant proportion are sub-standard from the word go. The original battery in my Pug 207 diesel lasted 13 years IIRC - I changed it when it began to sound tired as winter approached. Can't remember what make it was, but it was clearly a good'un.

Yuasa battery question - John F

What this thread actually tells me is simply Yuasa batteries are fine, its the spotty loonies at Halfords that are the issue...........JohnF had one fail after a year, got a replacement and that lasted 6 years.

How long did JohnF expect his to last, 6 years is not that bad. At £60 a battery that is £10 a year....

Six yrs might have been acceptable last century but not nowadays for a decent battery...which for the A8 cost considerably more than £60!

My records show that our 2000 Ford Focus battery was replaced in 2006, then 2020. My 1980 TR7 had cheapie replacements in1984, 1991, 1996, 2002, 2007...and then 2021, because for the last twenty years of infrequent use (c.400 miles p.a.) I twist off the +terminal cable every time it returns to the garage.

Edited by John F on 27/08/2025 at 11:00