That's just what I was thinking about the warranty, mine has expired and if I can do this deal it would mean that I'm covered for another 3 years :)
I know that I would miss the remote locks, but I was thinking about building them into the deal (£200 option) or adding an aftermarket alarm with remote locking interface (again, just under £200)
I'm seriously considering this, and I'm gonna go back to the dealers tommorow (I've made them sweat for a day) and ask how me selling the car privately would affect the deal.
At least I've had better treatment than my mate so far...
Blue
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You may not at all be interested, but in your position I would consider a Fabia 1.4 16v. Should get one for £9500 at most and I believe Skoda are currently offering 0% over 3 years.
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The problem is I already own a fantastic car that I'm quite attached to, but the new Fiesta comes with 2 years free insurance, which to an 18 year old is worth ££££!
I just got caled by the dealer who was asking if I'd had any chance to think about the deal (yesterday I told him I would be back the same day if I was interested)
I said that I was thinking of selling privately and asked how that would affect his willingness to negotiate 'cos I'm not happy with the deal as it stands at the moment.
He kinda stammered a bit, I'd obviously caught him realy off guard and he didn't know what to say, I don't think he was expecting an 18 year old to be anything other than a pushover :) He said that I could call in this afternoon and we would be better off discussing it face to face, so I'm gonna go back and ask for free metallic, free fitted mats, and of course a full tank of petrol. If he turns it down, I walk. :)
Wish me luck!
Blue
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It's done! It's done!
I got them to give me £5750 trade in on the Fiesta Ghia and throw in free metallic paint. :)
After we'd agreed on all of that, I then mentioned that I would of course be wanting fitted floor mats. At this point the guy asked if I was wearing an earpiece! :)
He wouldn't play ball with the carpet mats though, he said he could do the rubber ones. So I went with them instead...
The car already comes with 12 months tax as well. :)
After we thrashed it all out he showed me how much profit he was making on the new Zetec.... £32! :D Of course I'm under no illusions that they won;t make at least £1000 on the sale of my trade in, but I didn;t think I did a bad job of screwing him for the deal... especially as he found out that my Fiesta is an import, the numberplate gave it away. Most of our cars start with NA, NJ etc. whereas my Fiesta is RE.
I also took the longest test drive I've ever done, we were out 40 minutes... I did apologise to the salesman though, I had no idea that the route I'd chosen would take that long!
I also now know what percentages on the cost of the car Ford gives the dealers to haggle with... :)
Blue
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Congratulations Blue, you must be feeling very pleased with yourself. Hope your new car gives you a lot of pleasure, sounds like you've done very well ;)
Take care and speak to you soon,
HF
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Proves that buying a car isn't rocket science then... :-D Seriously, Wrong Car, Right Car doesn't usually come close to this on negotiating a deal.
Do you mind saying how much you paid for the car itself?
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Not at all, I've got the figures in front of me.
The car was £9,600 which is the price of the standard non-metallic Fiesta Zetec 3dr with Air Conditioning.
I got them to give me £5,750 trade in which ain't too bad for a 3 owner Fiesta that's been imported and crashed :) It is still in mint condition though and I wouldn't have had any worries about keeping it for many years.
They then threw in metallic paint for free (normally £300) and of course the obligatory Ford mats, but if I want the carpet ones I've got to pay the difference.
So, by going in today I've bettered the deal by £550 when you take into account the extra £250 for my car and free metallic. :)
The garage made £32 profit on the sale of the Zetec (apparently), but will certainly make closer to £1000 (at least) on the sale of my part ex. However, I'm quite happy, 'cos the free insurance alone is worth £2800 to me!
I'd be interested to know if HJ thinks this is a reasonable deal or not, I honestly don't think I could've squeezed them for any more, not when the guy showed me their margins. :) So that you know the score on my trade in, it was an 02 Fiesta Ghia with 10K on the clock in green metallic with a 1.25 Zetec engine. Did I do good? Don't be afraid to say if you think I could've done better though, I won't be upset!
Thanks HF - I'm quite excited about it, but I'm determined to keep this car for a while, the longest I've owned a car for is 13 months so far!
Blue
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At your age it would be unlikely that you had owned one for much longer than 13 months, Blue ;))
HF
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I know, I just can't belive I'm selling it already, I thought I would get ages out of it before I did something like this!
Blue
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Blue and HF, can you take your discussions to email and not here please. DD.
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It's here! It's here!
I actually got it yesterday, but have been so busy that I never got on to update the BR! Naughty me. :)
What a car, it's fantastic, there are NO rattles (so far), it handles like a dream, it's much more powerful, has fantastic brakes compared to the old one (a suicidal cyclist helped me test 'em) and it's sooo much quieter at speed.
All in all, I'm a very happy bunny.
HJ - I'd love to know what you think of the deal I got. Do you think I could have squeezed any harder? Please be brutally honest 'cos I'm quite happy with the deal, so you won't upset me!
Blue
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Interested to know where you got the £2800 insurance saving from? That works out at a premium of £1400 a year - this is very, very inplausable - even if you are just 17 or 18, surely even if it was £1400 in the first year, it'd be substantially lower the next with a years NCB?
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I wish I lived in your world mate, I shopped around for days, tried every company, including DL, Tesco etc. etc.
The *best* quote I could get was £1700 for 1 year fully comp with Liverpool Victoria, the next closest was Direct Line with £2200.
I'm 18, 0 NCB, no points, and it was an 02 1.25 Fiesta Ghia (Group 6)
I quoted ahead for 2 years with Liverpool Victoria and the total costs was £2800 in today's money, so factor in insurance premium increases over the years and it could even be more, but I took the lowest figure in my calculations.
Blue
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Forge to mention, when doing my future quotes to get an idea of the cost, I included 1 and then 2 years NCB in the figures (been optimistic!)
Blue
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Very odd - I'm your age (Well, a year older), and have been getting quotes of between £1300 and £1500 on the cars I'm after - all of which are Group 10-13 cars, and thats also with no NCB. With NCB, it drops to as little as £700. Again, for cars in higher groups than the Fiesta.
Norwich Union are the best, I find.
Still, you got yourself a nice new car which I'm sure you are dead chuffed at ;) Wish I could afford a 9 grand car at my age! ;)
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Norwich Union eh? They must not like me, I think they quoted me over £2K! It was a lot anyway, wonder if it's the area that I'm in, but the SR postcode isn't too bad. In fact our local area command has one of the lowest crime rates in the country, but still suffers from the image of been in Sunderland which is seen as a crime ridden dump when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Believe me, I can only just afford the car, it equals something like just under a year's wages to me! Fortunately I still live at home or else I'd be totally skint... But still chuffed with the car! :-)
Blue
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Nice to hear a happy motoring tale! I'm not a Ford enthusiast, but my daughter has a new Fiesta (1.3 unfortunately - I did tell her!) and I have to say it's very pleasant. Feels much larger than the old shape, as well as looking a lot sharper, and remarkably nice to drive. Still don't like Mondeos though... :-)
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I don't want to throw a spanner in the works but did you check what the excess on your "free" insurance is. Iknow a lady who got a Ka on this kind of deal. She ran into the back of someone, (her fault) rang Ford insurance to find the excess was £650 (OUCH). Maybe you should be careful exploring that Fiesta handling
James S
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Good luck with the new car Blue.
I have just added my 17 year old to my policy on the Fiesta 1.3 I have just bought for him to learn in. My existing insurer National Farmers Union for the Landie quoted £550 fully comp with no claims protection , Tesco's quote was £770. Volvo insurance quoted £1900! Loads of insurance companies just didn't want to know.
VD5D.
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James has a good point - and don't forget that there will probably two excesses - one that applies to everybody (standard policy excess) and another that applies to young and/or inexperienced drivers. Frequently if you take a voluntary excess it is on top of the two above.
So do always check what the total excess would be in the event of a claim.
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Yeah, I couldn't help but notice that.
£500 accidental damage! :O
If I need to claim for theft it is also £500. That cannot possibly be fair, I can understand the young driver's accidental driver's excess. But why should I pay £300 more than my dad for a theft claim? It's not as though the car is more likely to be stolen because I'm 18.
Blue
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Blue Oval, just read this thread from start to finish! Re the insurance, as they always say, if it sounds too good to be true it usually is.
Was interested in your thoughts of your old car, the first post tells all its good points, then after you have traded it in we find out it was an import, been crashed, had 3 owners and had crap brakes!! LOL :)
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Blue, excuse me if this sounds harsh but in some ways I'm one of your biggest fans :-) I completely endorse your attitude to motoring and am a bit of a Ford fan - my mother has driven nothing else for as long as I've been conscious.
However, I know that when I was 18 I was much more likely to go to dodgy car parks favoured by joyriders and leave the car unlocked. I was actually driving my mum's 950 Fiesta Bonus (silver, no stereo, head rests or anything else) so no self respecting joyrider would have gone near it, but still...
If I were your age and your financial position, I would drive exactly the car you do. Although it is harsh to make you pay more, I know that at 18 (and at a certain extent, at 25, though where I am now there is far more public transport available) I was much more likely to leave my car exposed to dodgy elements - and I'd much rather take an obscene £500 excess than a £2k premium...
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