May 2020

Fessel

To my mind it is absolute proof that you don't need to waste money buying a new car every year. Before the inevitable replies slagging me off read on.
My everyday car,a Yaris 1.4 TD Terra, is 6 years old. Starts every time, is very economical and can go fast if I want to. I also have 5 classics including a Rover P6, Triumph Toledo, 1935 Austin 12. all maintained and regularly used. So I'm not exactly anti-car am I? Read more

aethelwulf

Well, when you are not using a car it just goes out your mind. Never was in mine as my 15 year old Mondeo ( petrol) estate is just fine. Starts, stops does everything it should and never fails its MOT. Expensive VED but cheaper than a new car. I also have a 10 year old Piccanto which I hope will last at least 5 more years. I usually keep a car 15-20 years as I think you get the most out of your cash that way. Keep chopping and you keep paying depreciation

Habbs

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Habbs

Solved this - silly thing, sidelights were left on!

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SLO76

In my corner of suburban nirvana I’m surrounded with families with three and four cars. One for mum, one for dad and one for each driving age offspring. It’s a modern estate so the streets are somewhat narrow and choked with too many cars.


Almost all of them have new or nearly new cars on PCP or contract lease which is to me utter madness when it comes to a first motor. These cars have to be returned in a sellable condition or large fees will apply and you can guarantee that a new driver will add a few too many dings and scratches. Often it’s with a little parents help but usually the cost is met by newly employed teen, taking a big percentage of their early careers earnings and more importantly increasing the time they’ll be living under your feet.

People seem terrified of older cars, believing them to be unreliable and unsafe but I argue that they’re not and to land young drivers with a crippling monthly bill is unwise and only delays the day they can stand on their own two feet with head held high. They’ll be with you in their 40’s if they get into the PCP/Lease trap of a costly new car every few years.

My neighbour has a nearly new VW Polo GTi at age 19, which is taking most of what he earns between HP and insurance. It’s c******d him and he now can’t stand the loss of face that would come from downgrading in his mind as all his friends are doing the very same. It’s a lovely wee car but it’s taken a few knocks already and will no doubt end up going through a hedge at some point.

I argue that a cheap older car is the right way to begin your motoring life. Something that is cheap and cheerful. A car you had to lovingly search Gumtree or Autotrader for with a strict budget in mind. It’ll teach you more, it’ll be more fun and there’ll be no finance, no PCP with limited mileage, no contract lease with strict damage clauses. You buy it and run about in it care free, if done right.

What then constitutes the best first car in your opinion? I say cast the net wide and look based more on condition and providence. But a shortlist can still be made from cars that have a good reputation for longevity and ease of maintenance.

I suggest that the ideal price range be between £1,500 and £3,000 for such purchases. Any more and it’s going to be too valuable to stand all those learning curve dings and bashes but any cheaper and you’re delving into true bangernomics where only those with knowledge of the dark art should lurk with their kids first cars.


Citroen C1 1.0/Peugeot 107/Toyota Aygo 1.0 - Tiny 3cyl Daihatsu engine and costs buttons to run. Resists rot well and is as cheap as it gets for insurance. Simple and reliable yet fun to drive. A good example is easy to find at this money.

Mazda 2 1.3 - A hoot to drive with the same basic suspension and floorpan as the Fiesta but uses a bombproof chain driven Mazda engine. Again £3k is plenty to get a really nice one.

Ford Fiesta 1.25 Mk V post facelift - Cheap as chips yet fun to drive and reliable. £1,500 will buy a really decent one.

Ford Fiesta 1.25 Mk VI - Nicer looking and better made than above but prices are much higher. Watch for mocking electric steering racks.

Kia Picanto 1.1 - Cheap as chips because it’s utterly unfashionable. Reliable, simple and very cheap to run.

Suzuki Swift 1.3 petrol - A joy to drive yet utterly reliable and quite cute too. Hard to fault as a first car.

Toyota Yaris 1.0/1.3 - Probably the best all-rounder. A good bit more space than the Aygo and a bit safer, more comfortable and better built yet not much dearer to run. Not particularly exciting to drive but look after it and it’ll run and run. A great cheap runabout.

Nissan Micra 1.2 K12 - One of the last reliable Nissan’s. Simple and robust yet cute and good to drive these are also cheap as chips now. The 1.0 is ok but the 1.2 is better. Unappealing to the boy racer brigade so few are abused. Watch for electrical issues on more complex versions. Stick with basic models.

There are of course other reliable options at this money such as the Honda Jazz but few teens, male or female would thank you for one. The Vauxhall Corsa 1.2 can be ok if looked after but they’re cheaply made, drab inside and usually abused by younger drivers. The 1.0 tends to eat timing chains too. I’d favour the Japanese engined cars above particularly the Swift, Mazda 2 and Yaris. I only wish I was 17 again I’d listen to the wisdom of others and I’d avoid the money pit MG Metro I had for my first car.
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ManYad

Thanks all... will keep looking.

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SLO76

Just found out that a lass I sold a lovely 55 plated Nissan Micra 1.2 SE to a few years back has scrapped it and is in need of a replacement. I asked why the car was binned and was told that it refused to turnover so they replaced the battery and it still refused to turn, her “mechanic“ took a quick look and condemned the wee car.

Suspecting it to be nothing like a life ending issue I spent ten minutes on t interweb which has informed me that this particular keyless entry model requires a reset after replacing the battery or it will indeed refuse to spin. Upshot of it all is that despite me telling her mother to speak to me before making any car related decisions they’ve thrown away a perfectly good wee car that would’ve ran for years yet. Don’t rely on mechanics when it comes to electrical issues, they rarely have a clue. I seek out my good friends at the local auto spark who are brilliant at solving issues like this for buttons. The right man (or woman) for the job is key.

But hey ho off car shopping I go. £1,500 top budget for another small hatch and a post it note attached to the dash with my phone no in big print to be called before binning another motor. I could’ve got the guts of a grand for that wee car! Read more

SLO76

So you find cars for friends or ex customers SLO ?

Yup, I will try. Kinda difficult right now though. I won’t buy a car to sell to them, I don’t trade anymore but I’ll find suitable stuff locally and possibly view and negotiate for them if I’ve time and they need me.
elekie&a/c doctor

Just been trawling through thousands of photos I’ve taken over the years, and think I have found my favourite motor . It’s the MB 500e (W124 chassis) from the 90s . 5 litre V8 lifted from the SL , and a few tweaks from Porsche. Not massively powerful, but a fast comfy saloon . Discreetly flaired wheel arches , it could be a 200e , to the uninitiated. Left drive only , but who cares . Read more

badbusdriver

These were very successful in BTCC racing, impressive to see these big estates thrown round the tracks and beating saloons from manufacturers with sporting histories.

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Nezza

I’m hoping someone may be able to help me with a fault which has developed on my car. It is currently off the road due to now having a company car, and has only been used half a dozen times since last November. It is a Mk5 Astra 2.0 petrol engine.

So I went to take the car out of the garage yesterday and it would not start. I did use it last week to jump start my lawnmower a few times so I expected I had flattened the battery. So the battery has now been charged up and the car starts ok. It idles fine for 30 seconds-ish then the engine light comes on and it sounds like it is mis-firing.

I have tried a few times and each time the same thing happens. I am a competent engineer so able to check things but have absolutely no knowledge of engines. I have the following thoughts but any advice would be most welcome.

A) As the battery has been flattened could it be the battery is not good enough for the spark to be ok on each cylinder causing a misfire? I thought once a car was started it should run which would rule out the battery?
B) The car has not been filled up with fresh petrol at all and is sat with a quarter of a tank of fuel. I buy the super unleaded from the local Texaco garage. Could this have gone bad? It did start and idle fine last week for a good half hour.

Any help would be appreciated, it may be old but it has never let me down until now.

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Nezza

A little update on the fault.

So from Railroads suggestion above, I decided to go and have a tinker about yesterday to see what else I can find.

First thing, I decided to clear the faults and then restart to check the same faults re-occur. They did, however the battery seemed very weak during start up. Trying to start again, the immobiliser kicked in. This suggests the battery is bad to me as it was only fully charged last week. So I put a spare battery I have in the garage, on charge overnight. So today I have swapped the batteries over. Tried to start and...... NO FAULTS.

So left the engine idling for half an hour to warm through and make sure I have fresh fuel through the system. Turned off and tried to start again, again NO FAULT.

So it appears the fault all along has been a bad battery. I will go and get another when I am near the car shop but for now I will leave this spare on.

It makes me wonder if the alternator is doing it’s job correctly however I am happy it is nothing more serious and that I have not wasted any more money on parts I do not need. I will keep the original coil pack as a spare and the plugs for any future fault finding.

The car had never let me down until now and even then it is just a consumable part that has failed so I am happy.

Thank you for all the comments and help, I am a regular reader, but not a regular contributor. I know how annoying it is to not find out the outcome of a problem so thought I would close the loop.

Thanks again everyone.

glidermania

I have some neighbours who are a mixture of The Simpsons and The Science of Stupid types. Not suprisingly, we dont get on with them. Even the woman's 'boy friend' is stupid.

A few years ago, while driving out of our cul de sac and more interested in waving goodbye to his concubine, he drove his Nissan GT-R over our rockery stones and wanted me to pay for the damage to his carbon fibre splitter. Solicitor's advice told him to foxtrot oscar so he came back one wet night to drive over the lawn and leave lovely tyre tracks.... Read more

Joe-Alex

He tried to cut it straight, without using wedges? No wonder the idiot struggled. Not only is that the daftest way to fell a tree but, generally speaking, machinery doesn't like it when it has a ton or so tree pressing on it whilst in operation....

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Cristiano91

Good Morning Fellas,

I would like to ask some advice regarding buying a 2nd hand car.... Read more

Avant

I would suggest that Malta is an ideal place for a Toyota hybrid - if you want an SUV, either the CH-R if you can stand the looks and poor rear visibility, or the RAV-4 if you can't.

Either of these should be as economical as a diesel, as you're not going to do long motorway journeys. And you should have some of the 5-year warranty left: make sure it's been serviced by a Toyota dealer.

Caz80MJ

Hello, I've been reading these forums and it seems like a good place to get advice without being trolled. I parked in a supermarket a couple of days ago and when I got out of my car, the car next to me had a huge white scuff mark (both cars black). My issue is, I didn't see or hear my car door touch theirs and there isn't a single mark on my door. The mark on theirs was about 12 inches tall and 3 inches wide, so I thought that can't possibly have been me, to get that sort of mark, surely you'd have to slam your door into theirs. I know nothing about car paintwork, it didn't appear to be a scratch, but was a large white mark.

I didn't think much more about it until I got home. I checked my door again and there isn't a mark on it, but there more I thought about it, the more I can't help thinking that maybe I could have done it. The mark was V shared and my door is that angle (I have no clue if that's common of a lot of cars). Every car I've owned has been scratched/dinged in car parks, so if the wind had caught my door and it had slammed into the car next to me, I would have stayed till they returned (I know how frustrating it is).... Read more

galileo

The main thing here is not to make hasty conclusions and correctly weigh everything and make a decision...

Ncwales

Hi looking for advice or service info on clutch replacement on these never done a 4x4 is there much difference form a 2wd car is can't be driven at and need to get back and for work any help will be appreciated thanks Read more

targen

This is basically a two wheel drive with a take-off for the rear drive..once the propshaft is disconnected its no more complicated than a front wheel drive , although on this model the sub frame has to be removed before the box can come out... garage labour time is around 5 hours. Everything is quite heavy...good luck.