September 2004

VTiredeyes

Volvo V70 2.5 tdi se 98 r plate Man (metallic Dark Blue)
velour uphols
air.con
rear spoiler
computer
t5 alloys (all 4 brand new tyres)
original exhaust!
inside hasn?t seen a vac or cleaning for 3 years !
140K miles
7m mot
fvsh
1 owner
new rear shocks & springs
roof bars
body work has 20 dents on roof, not real bad
scratch?s and slight dents all over, front bumper large scuff mark
rear bumper scratched to hell, on loading area
parkers says £7845 good
bad is £6200
but alliance-leicester.co.uk/smartermotoring
says poor is £3800
good £5110
and trade is £4445
? bit of a fluctuation from £7845 to £3800
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Halmer

This is probably more accurate.

Dealer £7,751
Private
£7,292
Part Ex
£5,444
Trade
£5,326
Cost New £27,020

Engine
Cubic capacity
2461
Cylinders
5
Max power (bhp/rpm) 140/4000
Max torque (lb ft/rpm)
218/1900
Urban mpg
39.2
Extra-urban mpg
64.2
Combined mpg
44.1
Fuel
Diesel

Ownership data
Insurance group
12
Service interval
No data

Volvo V70 (96-00) Estate 2.5 TDi SE 5dr
Estate 5dr
1998-R
140,000 miles

What Car? verdict
Volvo doing what it does best. Tremendously versatile estate with bags of space, a fine driving environment and loads of safety kit. Ride is harsh, steering is dull and chassis struggles to cope with more powerful engine variants.

For
Versatility, space, safety kit

Against
Harsh ride, dull steering

Reliability
Suspension will need work if used for towing. Turbodiesel's timing belt can snap. Spares are costly. Replace brake discs after 50k miles

Other models to consider
BMW 5-series, Mercedes C-class

Model History
Dec 96 Range Intr as 5dr est. All have alarm, immob, r/c/locking, rake/reach/adj/PAS, airbag, ABS, e/adj/htd/mirrors, e/wins, r/cass, st/h/adj, side airbags c/keyed mirrors and bumpers and s/f/r/seat. SE adds aircon, lthr/s/wheel, alloys, r/spoiler, integral child seat, and f/fogs. CD as SE plus climate control, e/s/roof, lthr seats, e/drivers seat, CD, c/control and wood dash. R as CD plus Met paint, 17" alloys, t/control, lowered suspension, aluminium inlayed dash, multi CD player and htd/f/seats.
V70 2.5 TDi Intr with 140bhp 5cyl Turbodiesel eng, 5sp man 4sp auto opt.
Jul 98 Re-aligned

BobbyG

As mentioned before, I purchased a pre reg Scenic from Renault dealer. Car was registered on 29 June and I purchased it on 3 July with something like 6 miles on clock.

I have not received the log book in from DVLA yet. When I questioned this with the dealer yesterday, he advised me that as it was a pre reg, there would be a 3 month delay. Unfortunately my mobile went dead at that time and salesman is not in today.

I am not unduly concerned however, it I had to present this at a police station, or there was a speeding ticket where would it be sent to?

Is the 3 months a tax loophole that the garage needs to allegedly keep the car for? Wonder what date of change of ownership will appear?

Any ideas, experience of this? Read more

BobbyG

DD, just tried it, you are right again! Only has a build date, not registered!

PoloGirl

...I'm really a very good driver!

Well, as we all know, in my recent youth, I wasn't a very good driver, and the time has come to renew the car insurance again.

Last year I think I paid about £800 fully comp, and this year the best the broker can come up with is £760, which I don't think is particularly good as I now have 3 years no claims discount and am practically an old lady (can't wait til I'm 25 and break through the magical young driver barrier!). So I've been doing some research of my own this morning.

The best quote is from the sister company of the one Michael Winner does the stupid adverts for (is that as good as naming it?sorry!). They've quoted me £560 fully comp which is a pretty big difference to the one the broker came up with. The reason it's so low is (I think) that they wouldn't let me tell them about the accident that was my fault in feb 2001 because it was more than three years ago. All the other companies I've tried to get quotes from go back five years, so I have to declare it and it bumps up the quote.

I'm just a bit uneasy about it because it's so much lower than everyone else. Have they made a mistake only asking me to go back three years? I tried to put it in on the website and it told me I couldn't because it was over 3 years ago. Is the five year thing a requirement for all insurers or do they set their own limits?

I guess I just don't want to have to make a claim and for them to say "sorry, you're uninsured because you didn't tell us about that accident" when they wouldn't let me tell them!

Second question is a bit easier I think! I'm temping at the moment in boring office jobs while I freelance and look for a job that is actually something to do with my degree (PR/Marketing). In the occupation question, what should I be putting? Does it make that much of a difference? (I know journalists get higher quotes, and PR is usually in that category.) I've been putting PR, but again don't want them to get awkward if I have to make a claim.

Sorry for the long post, hope someone with a bit more brain will be able to sort me out!

Thanks!




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PoloGirl

ok...

Esure - haven't got 4 years no claims so they wont quote.
Privelige - just laughed at me and said I'd be better going somewhere else once we got to the "claims or points in the last 5 years" bit.
Liverpool Victoria - quoted more than the broker.
Norwich Union - wont quote me as I've had more than one loss/claim in the last 3 years.
Direct Line/Tesco - wont quote me. Didn't say why (through confused.com)
More Than - more than the broker!
Kwik Fit - actually quite a good quote, and a kwik fit discount card too.

And those are just the ones I can remember!

Dabby

Hello all, this is my first post. I've come across this site while researching for my new company car.

Firstly, let me set the background - I'm english but living in Belgium, I'm driving an Alfa 156 Sportwagon, all cars in Belgium nearly are diesel. Today the Alfa is completely inappropriate for our needs as we now have twin girls, rapidly approaching 1 year of age - we realise we need something bigger.

I'm a little bit loathe to move towards a full sized MPV as I like to drive a bit - my personal favourite is the 2.0 TDi Touran which is pretty fast, handles nicely and is VW so good build quality. However, my wife is pressurising me to take a Galaxy, Espace or 807 - tha latter because of the sliding doors...

Her argument is that we need the space. My argument is that we need the space 5% of the time when we go on vacation, the rest of the time and most of the week it will just be myself driving an empty van around. My solution would be to buy a luggage box for the Touran to boost the available volume as and when needed.

Does anyone out there have a simillar experience? Will I regret taking the smaller car, would I hate driving about in a Galaxy etc? I'm really stumped on this... Read more

Dabby

I'm back!

Well, after more research, lots of garage visits, some test drives, some discussion, more research, more garage visits, many sleepless nights and a stomach ulcer I have made a decision.

So, it will be the Touran 140bhp 2.0 TDi Highline (that's Sport model in UK I think) - beige interior and Indigo Blue exterior (I'm limited in colour choice you see).

Only question now is the options to take, hence my other post regarding the factory fitted Navigation System. I'm also thinking of taking the DSG auto gearbox as I do a lot of driving in Brussels and not having to sit on the clutch half of the time is quite appealing.

My take on the other cars, well I could have a Galacy Ghia with leather but it's too old a model. I love the exterior of the Espace but the interior design makes me queasy, I mean it's like something out of Space 1999. The design on the 807/C8 I just don't like at all - too whacky by far.

I also calculated that a Touran with a decent roof box has the same capacity as a Grand Espace so I'll purchase one to use as and when needed.

Any ideas on the best brand roof boxes??

Cardew


I read recently that most manufacturers spend 2-3% of their total budget on advertising; and some considerably more. That amounts to several hundred pounds per car.

Most people are cynical about any form of advertising and some adverts - like those for underwater Mitsubishi Colts or the pop-up butterflies that appear on this site are plain irritating.

Whilst one assumes that marketing professionals know what they are doing, can adverts really influence people to buy Car A rather than Car B?
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Stuartli

>>I am talking about manufacturers advertising new cars, not second hand dealers advertising their stock.>>

If you read my post again you will see that I was referring to new car advertising in the first paragraph.

Later on I stated: "It's also why second hand car dealers..."

With regard to McDonalds, Pepsi etc the point I was making - or at least thought I was - was that no matter how famous the name, advertising is still regarded as essential to keep that name, brand or whatever to the forefront.

It applies equally to car manufacturers.

Halmer

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gsb

Hi.
I had exactly this problem with my pug 406 2.1TD
My pug garage eventually said (after much investigation and therefore cost)they changed one of the thermister valves,(i think that is what it was called, sorry I don't have bill with me )this fixed problem.
I am not very technical i'm afraid but apparently they have to run within a narrow temperature range or they send misleading info to the fuel pump.
I don't if your car has them but hope this might help.

gsb

welshy

Still looking for a different car , but unfortuantly not a new one now as i hoped .
Whats the best out of these please , ive narrowed it down to
2001 Mondeo 1.8lx
2001 Vectra (old style)1.8 club
2001 Omega elite 2.5td automatic

The omega is truely beautifull , but need your advice please ?? Read more

MichaelR

I would take the Omega out of those 3 but its a very odd list.

Why Mondeo 1.8 LX v Omega 2.5 higher spec?

If the Mondeo in question was a 2.0 or TDCi in Ghia or Ghia X specification and was a Mk3, I'd take that over the Omega. But if its a 1.8 LX I'd have the Omega.

Tony Bee

Went to look at a new Almera Tino today.
Crikey. Bit cramped across the shoulders compared with my beloved Xantia.
Lots of rough edges and very wide gaps in the dashboard plastic.
Fiddled with roof light and whole roof lining moved up about 2 inches and twanged back.
My wife spotted the Nissan badge on the tailgate being at least 10 degrees out of level.
At this point we both said stuff that it's junk.

Of course I know it isn't but it was not very impressive at all.

Is this what you get for serious money these days ?

Why oh why did Citroen not follow up the Xantia with a carefully aimed er---follow up. Like Xantia 2 and not that gallumphing C5. Read more

THe Growler

>>>>>>> This is why I can never understand why people think the Japs build good cars,

I don't know if this has relevance here, but where I live it definitely does. An "real" (sic in the local vernacular) Honda or Toyota from Japan will command a better price than a locally assembled one, even though the local factories are Japanese-managed. Call it snobbery if you will, but the widespread perception is that genuine Jap is best.

I can't vouch for that, having had excellent service from a Honda Civic and Mits L200 locally made. But I can certainly quote a parallel from Nokia. My first 4 Nokias fell to bits or gave up the ghost (especially the batteries and keyboards) in mere months. Then I bought a Siemens which was even worse, then an Ericsson, well enough said about that piece of junk. Finally I was enlighted by a friend: "before you buy any Nokia open it up and see if it was made in China. If it was don't touch it, ask for one made in Finland. It will cost you more but it's worth it". My Finnish Nokia is still going strong despite being dropped, soaked, abused, left behind in bars, and otherwise maltreated.

I'm always suspicious of any company which boasts a "Quality Control" dept. If it made the durn thing right from Day One it wouldn't need one.

Company culture is everything. Maybe Nissan, given the faults mentioned, has now got Renault Disease.


Hugo {P}

Upon returning a Tumble Dryer for a full refund that was only 18 months old and had caused nothing but problems since I had it, I was concerned that it was not repaired and sold on but scrapped in its entirety. (This little intro story is non motoring related but the warranty was out by 6 months and I still got them to refund the cost of it - can post this on "I have a Question" if anyone is interested)

It got me thinking about what happens to cars that have been taken back by the manufacturers when they have caused nothing but trouble for the owner.

The two cases I know of is a backroomer who got an 85% refund on his VW, and a friend of ours who managed to get his Y reg Fiat Multipla swapped for a 51 Reg vehicle by Fiat because of all the trouble he had with the Y reg one.

What happens to these cars when they are taken back?

Do they simply get fixed then pushed out to some unsuspecting dealer through an auction? Do the main dealers get to sell these cars on as used or do they get reduced to produce for spares and the bits sold though car breakers?

Is it something that nearly new car buyers should be aware of?

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JohnM{P}

IIRC, Fords replaced under their old 'lemon' garantee went back into auction with a vital plate chiselled off from under the bonnet. Perhaps someone with better knowledge of these things can confirm/elaborate?

Computer Says No

I was driving home in my car (conveniently) last week, and I thought the car was driving a bit "funny".

When I got home (12 miles) I noticed that the rear driver wheel was flat. And red hot.

I pumped it up (after letting it cool down) and went to the local tyre place and bought 2 new (budget) tyres for the back.

Now the car seems unstable, and when I braked going round the roundabout I nearly lost control of the car and narrowly avoided a van on my right and railings on my left - the steering just seemed to "lose it".

Also when going round corners, the rear wheels do not grip like they used to. The budget tyres have a good tread, not remoulds, and apparently are made by Dunlop. They were £45 each.

The car is a Toyota Avensis GS 1.8 on a 2000+ X plate.

Have I damaged the rear axle by having an overheated tyre?

Have I damaged the brakes?

The manager of the car tyre place "wellied" my car around an estate, doing fast left and right turns, slaloming etc and could not replicate the problem?

Any ideas?

Have I just bought crap tyres?

(also posted on "usenet")

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Computer Says No

Pumping the tyres from 28 to 32 has fixed the problem.

Or perhaps the grease off the new tyres has worn away.

Car is fine.

Never had this happen before.

Will avoid cheapo tyres in future.