www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/01/12/fiat-chrys.../

Looks like the auto industry is going to lose their shirts this year. Vw have already agreed to a 4.3 billion fine in a plea deal with the US regulator. Plus individual compensation deals. Then we have the rest of the world, from national governments, to individual cities, and owners demanding compensation.

In the end, the cost will be passed back to us, the public, in the form of higher prices, dealer gouging, increased and new taxes and depressed used values.

Cars will not become magically cleaner overnight, so many of us will find our cars being banned or milked when driving onto many cities in the future.

Then there is the health issue, are the EU, NHS etc going to claim? The tobacco gets way with murder, literally, will the auto industry too?

AND NOW ........Renault!!

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/...l

Oops! Wrong link!! (Tried to get a hj fiendly link)

These are new allegations

www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/753875/Renault-e...s

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/renault-d...l

Wouldn't have thought Renault and Fiat woul be too worried as between them they only sell the Fiat 500 in the US. But maybe under the Chrysler Jeep badge they may have a problem What a great source of income for the US authorities and in particular their lawyers.

FCA, as Fiat-Chrysler is now known, fit the VM 3.0 V6 diesel in the Jeep Grand Cherokee and RAM 1500 truck - 104,000 affected vehicles in the USA.

It won't affect FCA, but the Opel/Vauxhall diesels used by Chevrolet in the USA are derived from the Fiat JTD as a carry-over from the now dissolved GM-Fiat Powertrain Alliance.

For both Fiat and Renault, they're now in the frame in Europe for cheating.