Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Dingle232

My S40 is going to need 4 new tyres in a couple of months so I am starting to look at options. The car needs 205/50 17W (reinforced) so the premium players like Michelin, Goodyear, Continental etc are all coming in at around £160 - £170 each inc fitting.

I must admit I have always been someone who doesn't skimp on any safery feature so in my previous cars where they were a smaller size, ergo cheaper, I have always tended to use Michelins.

The prices of them for the Volvo are offputting whereas I can get something like the highly regarded Uniroyal Rainsport 2 or Avon ZV5 for around £100 each (fitted) - massive difference in cost.

So my question is whether "Premium' tyres really are worth the differential in cost? From reading up it appears that opinion is split. I certainly wouldn't put any budget tyre on the car but I simply don't know how much 'better' the Premium brands are compared to the 'mid range' ones like Avon and Uniroyal/Toyo etc to justify the price difference.

If anyone has a view I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - SteveLee

The Uniroyal and Avons you mentioned are as good as anything out there. I'd go for the Uniroyal Rainsport for all-round performance - the Avon is a better summer/performance tyre.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - gordonbennet

Rainsports are very highly regarded.

I had Toyo T1R's on my car and cannot fault them for grip wet or dry (never used cold as i run winters), but the road noise and harsh ride was dreadful, i ended up removing them with still over 4mm all round, couldn't stand it anymore.

Mytyres are showing your size extraload Nokian V at £97.20 apiece, these and especially the similar Z G2 at £107.00 are wiping the floor with the premium makes in the latest European tyre tests.

Tyretest.com is worth a nose for user reviews, as is Tyrereviews.co.uk

Edited by gordonbennet on 06/06/2012 at 15:26

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Dingle232

Thanks for the responses. Are Nokian decent? I dn't know much about them at all and was pretty set on the Uniroyals/Avons TBH.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - gordonbennet

Nokian until recently specialised in winter tyres, in which they are rightly regarded as one of the best in the world, i use their winter tyres and am very pleased, made in Finland.

Vredestein also should not be ignored, Sportrac 3 is a fine tyre, made in Holland.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - SteveLee

Dunno if it's still the case, but many police forces used to use Uniroyals due to their excellent wet grip and predictability.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - RT

Wow - why does a Volvo S40 need "W" speed rated tyres? Can it really do up to 168mph?

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Dingle232

Wow - why does a Volvo S40 need "W" speed rated tyres? Can it really do up to 168mph?

That's actually a really good question. The current tyres are all W rating so I'd just kinda assumed that's what's needed. How would I stand insurance wise if I put V or even H rated tyres on? I've also made a massive assumption that it needs reinforced tyres as I was 'informed' that as the current tyres are prefixed with 'ZR' that this indicated a reinforced tyre? Where can I get a definitive answer as to the correct spec of tyre for my car then?
Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - SteveLee

Read the handbook or put your reg in on a site like www.mytyres.co.uk

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Dingle232
Did so and it came up with 205/50 17W. Lord knows why it needs a W as previous poster mentioned.
Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - gordonbennet

''Where can I get a definitive answer as to the correct spec of tyre for my car then?''

Handbook, or possibly a sticker on one of the pillars or inside the fuel filler cap.

If you can run normal load instead of XL (the designation for reinforced) then your choice will be a bit better priced.

Its not a T4 is it?...if its a normal model i expect an H or V speed rating to be required.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Dingle232
Its not a T4 is it?...if its a normal model i expect an H or V speed rating to be required.


If further proof of my complete ignorance was required then here it is. I have absolutely no idea whether it's a T4 or even what a T4 is :-).

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Avant

The T4 was the top-of-the-range turbocharged S40 - replaced I think by the fice-cylinder T5 in about 2004. Your V5 (registration document) should tell you which model you've got.

You'll see another tyre thread on here currently: Kumho tyres are also well worth looking at and have lasted well on the front wheels of my old BMW Z3. I've recently puit Kumhos on the back wheels as well with no loss of grip compared with the Michelins that they replaced.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - SteveLee

T4 and T5 are the performance versions of the car.

We do not have TUV type laws in the UK (yet) - as long as the speed rating of the tyre matches or betters the car's capabilities then it's perfectly legal to fit them. So no, you do not need a W rated tyre - just one with a speed rating which matches or betters the official top-speed of your car and a load rating which matches or betters the required load specification. As the load rating for the average S40 is 89 even budget tyres will comfortably exceed those requirements.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - RT
We do not have TUV type laws in the UK (yet) - as long as the speed rating of the tyre matches or betters the car's capabilities then it's perfectly legal to fit them. So no, you do not need a W rated tyre - just one with a speed rating which matches or betters the official top-speed of your car and a load rating which matches or betters the required load specification. As the load rating for the average S40 is 89 even budget tyres will comfortably exceed those requirements.

The fitted tyre speed doesn't even have to fit the car's capability - we have a 70mph limit in UK so virtually any speed rating is legal.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Dingle232

We do not have TUV type laws in the UK (yet) - as long as the speed rating of the tyre matches or betters the car's capabilities then it's perfectly legal to fit them. So no, you do not need a W rated tyre - just one with a speed rating which matches or betters the official top-speed of your car and a load rating which matches or betters the required load specification. As the load rating for the average S40 is 89 even budget tyres will comfortably exceed those requirements.

Thanks. So there's nothing to stop me puttint tyres on with a V rating without compromising my insurance then?

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - SteveLee

Thanks. So there's nothing to stop me puttint tyres on with a V rating without compromising my insurance then?

Nothing whatsoever, any tyre rated above the top speed of your car is fine (assuming the load rating is met or bettered too) - which it will invariably be.
Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Roly93

I'm almost bored with typing this on forums, but I do 22-25K per annum on mostly motorways and have an Audi estate. I dont want to skimp on tyres when some days I might do 400 miles, however have found that without a doubt the best tyres I have come across for the price have been Falkens.

I am on my third set and they tick all of the boxes, ie wet grip, quietness and wear. If I was forces to level any critscism at them at all I would say they need to be used at the upper limit of the recommended pressures, but other than that they are great tyres in every way. If you want a brand name like Bridgestone or Goodyear you will pay at least 35% more and probably get less miles too.

A word of warning about Avon ZV5's I had one of these fail on me when half worn, but they are not too good anyway. Uniroyals are good but tend to be soft compound, dont know about Toyo's apart from that they are not alweays too cheap.

I have no connection with Falken in anmy way other than being a highly satisfied customer.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - quizman
If your car came on W rated tyres, you should not put lesser rated tyres on, whatever the speed limit is.
If you have an accident and have H or V rated tyres when you should have W rated you could be in trouble with your insurance.
I have looked on Blackcircles site and you can get plenty or cheaper tyres than you said. The Hankooks looked good value at £113 and the Khumos were £88, the Uniroyals are £108.
Do not get Chinese cheapo tyres, whatever anyone tells you.
Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - unthrottled

If you have an accident and have H or V rated tyres when you should have W rated you could be in trouble with your insurance.

How so? If the vehicle's top speed is within an H or V rating then that is perfectly acceptable. You are not required to replace the tyres with the OEM ones, are you? There's lots of nonsense about replacement parts "invalidating" insurance policies.

Since few people see the north end of 100mph, most of the speed ratings are academic. And if you do lose control at a speed well into three figures, chances are that your insurance small print will be a moot point.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Dingle232

Am now even more confused than before.....I think I'll just get a set of Kumho's as they seem to get decent reviews and are priced pretty competitively.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - quizman

We have had this argument before. I say that you should put tyres on which are the same or higher rated than original.

AFAIK the insurance could be invalid if lower rated tyres are fitted in an accident. As higher rated tyres don't cost much more, why take the risk?

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Hamsafar

Quite. Speed/load ratings are specified by the vehicle manufacturer to meet the requirements of the vehicle, if it was to do with the speed you drive at, they would all specifiy T rated or below and they probably wouldn't make anything above H.

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - unthrottled

A tyre rated at 150 mph is often going to cost a lot more than one 'only' rated at 125. If a vehicle has a top speed of 120 mph. then the 'better' tyre is not better at all. High speed tyres have to be capable of dealing with levels of heat that simply won't be encountered.

A first party claim could be rejected if a car is deemed to be 'modified'. Rim and tyre sizes other than OEM are deemed to be modifications. Tyre speed rating is not. Third party insurance cannot be "invalidated". The speed rating need only be fit for purpose.

I've fitted non-Renault approved brake pads to my car. Does that make my insurance 'invalid'? Of course not!

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - Hamsafar

"I've fitted non-Renault approved brake pads to my car. Does that make my insurance 'invalid'? Of course not!"

All brake pads sold in the EU must be tested and have REG 90 Approval in any member state for their application.

Insurance can't be invalidated by any modification to the car but any claim for your OWN losses could be declined.

Edited by Hamsafar on 10/06/2012 at 12:56

Volvo S40 - Premium v Mid Range Tyres - ChannelZ

I've two Pirelli P7 and two Matador Elite3 on my car. One pair is a premium brand, the other is a good tyre.

Hard to beat some of the mid-range tyres like Uniroyal (Continental brand), Matador (51% owned by Conti), Vredestein, Firestone (Bridgestone brand), or even something like Lassa (part owned by Bridgestone).

Uniroyal are good, but they dont last. I had RainExperts on the car, and 6k they were gone, and that was careful town driving on the front of a Mondeo.

I'm planning on replacing the Matadors with the Lassa Impetus Revo, which to all intents and purposes is a Bridgestone ER300, which has just been replaced and looks like it's been shuffled down to their Lassa brand.

Edited by ChannelZ on 11/06/2012 at 00:31