JUST BEEN LOOKIN AT CAR TAX FOR 2004-5
AT PRESENT I DRIVE A FOCUS 1.4 ZETEC, YOU KNOW THE SORT O THING LIL HATCHBACK TYPE, ADEQUATE FOR MEDIUM COMPANY MILEAGE, MOTORWAYS IF YOU THRASH IT ETC,
IN 2004-5 WHEN I AM SOO LUCKY TO GET A NEW MOTOR, WHAT AM I LOOKING AT FOR THE SAME SORT OF TAX LAYOUT!!!!
1 LITRE CORSA, 1.2 YARIS,
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Your caps lock key appears to be stuck :o)
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not a caps lock problem i was shouting
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Do you pay anything towards maintenance, insurance and depreciation etc?
Appreciating that 1.4 focus might not be first choice, can you use the car for personal mileage ie as though it was your family car?
At basic rate what is the tax bill?
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yes personal miles
nothing towards maintenace
22%
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I can't predict what cars emissions will be in 3 years, but for todays tax charge on a 1.4 Focus petrol, you would have to choose something in a similar size, almost certainly a diesel, but modern diesels are fantastic.
In a year or 2, Diesels should be clean enough not to get the 3% premium placed on the tax, I would think that the product of future collaberation between Peugeot, Citroen and Ford should produce a great engine about 1.6 to 1.8 turbo diesel, possible 130 to 150 horse power and 60mpg in a Focus sized car.
If you think i am being optimistic, look at the 1.4 HDI 16v engine in the Citroen C3 and compare with other small diesels.
Pug 106 and Citroen Saxo diesel. 1.5 58hp 0-60 15.8 secs 53mpg
Old Fiesta 1.8 turbo 74hp 0-60 14.3 secs 53.3mpg
New Fiesta 1.4 TDCI 67hp 0=60 16.2 secs 65.7mpg
C3 1.4 HDI 16v 92hp 0-60 11.2 secs 65.7mpg
So what will we be driving in the future to save car tax?
Fast diesels I think.
A 1.4 Focus should cost from £350 a year in tax for a basic rate taxpayer.
Next year, that would be £400, then £450ish the next year.
A modern superdiesel should be in the region of £350 in 2 or 3 years.
Ben (Cannot predict the future 100% accurately)
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Oh, and you don't want to know what they are planning for the future to do with fuel benefit.
If i remember correctly, from 2003/04 fuel benefit will be based upon the CO2 percentage multiplied by a figure (about £14,000 i remember).
My calcs showed that a 1.6 Focus sized car would not feel a change in the new fuel charge, but a larger engined car would be scr***d.
I believe the intention is to increase fuel benefit by 15% a year after that.
Ben (Do not rely upon these figures, ask your accountant!)
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Mmm, whether or not you drink lager and whether or not it has any effect on you, we probably don\'t need to keep restating it in capital letters complete with a favourite rude word.
I have removed the signature, please don\'t use it again, it really isn\'t designed to encourage people to help.
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yeh ok, sorry boss, sorted it, wont happen again, honest, john
Drink Lager Talk Piffle
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Having just ordered a E320 CDI which has extremely low emmisions but is very powerful my accountant advised me that in a couple of years the goverment will raise the surcharge on the diesel engines as they are becoming very popular now. This will of course affect your tax and there may well be no difference between the tax for a petrol or a diesel.
It is not the emmisions that bother the goverment is is simply the amount of tax they can collect and if they think they are going to lose out because everyone is buying diesel cars so as to pay less tax they will increase the tax to suit themselves not to suit hard working individuals who just want to get to and from meetings, site, ect.
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AFAIK there has not been any official word regarding changing the 3% increase for diesels that do not meet the 2003 (?) regulations.
True, the government will be annoyed now huge numbers of diesels are being sold, 65mpg superminis and 35mpg large cars.
Fuel excise duty will have to increase, but we are more likely to see stealth taxes, vat changes and cuts in essential public spending.
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