Hmmm....some interesting thoughts there.
I promised a couple more. One photo was too small to show much detail when scanned but this one may take some naming...seen on my trailer in the 80s.
s479.photobucket.com/albums/rr152/1400ted/?action=...g
Ted
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Would that be a Crossley? (I admit most pre war cars look similar to my untrained eye, mind you)
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Not a Crossley. Radiator looks Frazer Nash or HRG, but it's the wrong sort of body for one of those.
Trojan? Jowett? Perhaps something foreign even. Can't tell really.
What an elegant beast it is though.
(By the way ted, did you agree that the car in that lady's obit picture was a Javelin or not? You never said.)
Damn! Sunbeam? Perhaps not. Damn!
Edited by Lud on 25/05/2009 at 20:33
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Another Jowett perhaps? Late 1920s by the look of it.
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i've no idea what motor it is but wallace and grommit wouldnt look out of place in it
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OK zookeeper, they too have an elegant side.
Take another look though at the proportions of that thing. Believe me, it outclasses most of its era. Of course a nice body design can make you think a car is better than it really is. And there may be no connection between the tailor (so to speak) and the jumped-up grease monkey if you're out of luck who may have conceived and supervised the chassis operation...
Must say though that most of the really good ones are aesthetically pleasing too, taste notwithstanding. Of course there's always the Lancia whatsitsname, the frightful all-sideways rally car that is really the automotive equivalent of the US army's Warthog tankbuster aircraft, you know, the ones with two dustbins taped to its bum and puff-the-magic-dragon or something even worse installed up its nose...
What does AE think, if his aesthetoboost is turned on? I reckon that's a well elegant late twenties bourgeois runabout.
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Well, 552 views to this thread and, really only one winner. I'm not going to name the green pre-war car until tomorrow but some clues...made in the North West but not Crossley, normal engine so not Trojan.
Now, the fat estate.......Get out of the bath Tom, put a towel round you and take a bow.
Jowett made about 15 or so Typw CD Bradfords in 1953, this one is CD2, I owned CD10 for about 10 years, the only survivor outside the Antipodes. They made Estate, Saloon, Van and Pickup versions which were to replace the Javelin and Bradford ranges.
They came too late, Ford did not pull the plug, they were not involved. Jowetts at this time had decided to manufacture their own gearboxes to save money. Previously they bought in from Henry Meadows. Jowett boxes were unreliable, the factory was so involved with warranty repairs that car production came to a halt. Trimmed bodies were still being delivered from Briggs of Doncaster but no-one was available to put the mechanics in.
The writing was on the wall, only the Jupiter was being sold and there wasn't enough volume to make money. The company was owned by Lazards, the merchant bank, and they closed it down. 'Jowett Cars Ltd' is now owned by the Jowett Car Club, the world's oldest one-make car club.
As Lord Montague said...'Better to go out in a blaze of glory with a Jupiter, than to be badge-engineered out of existance '
I'm pleased to say that my Javelin has a Meadows box !
Ted
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I have the answer but I will not spoil it for others. Pity the whole vehicle has not survived but those in Godzone look after old Brit mobiles.
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refering to info in
www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/jowett_cd.htm
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Sorry. I can't really take the accolade. All I did was google the number plate.
I'll wave my white towel in surrender - oops, shouldn't have done that. ;>)
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I had an idea that you had done that but I'm too much of a gentleman to grass you up.
Lud, I tried to reply at the time but the site wasn't letting me. I'm not convinced it was a Javelin, it didn't just look right...I'm more inclined to another Devon.
I looked at the lady's entry on www.findagrave.com/ a very interesting site.
Ted
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After I'd posted (yes, honestly) I googled 'jowett prototype' and found it there, but didn't let on so as not to spoil the fun.
I'd stick with a Javelin in the picture that came with the French lady's obituary - what you can see of the front door is different from the A40 Devon opposite.
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well well well
i never thought of that either :-(
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what you can see of the front door is different from the A40 Devon opposite.
And it's got a curved screen, while the Austin's across the road is flat. And you can see its high steering wheel position, and stubby bonnet, and the headlights and wing profile are different from the Austin's too.
Put your reading glasses on ted!
But she wasn't a French lady really. Just her married name.
Edited by Lud on 26/05/2009 at 00:09
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Ah, well....not many takers on the green vintage saloon.
It is a ( the ) Waldron Wayfarer. Made by Waldron Engineering of St. Helens to the specification of the ' boss ' for his personal use.
Only one was made. The company made all the mechanical parts from scratch but may have farmed out the delightful body.
A miracle, really, that it survived.
Ted
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