1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Quicksilver
Happy Christmas everybody.

I hope somebody can point me in the correct direction?

I just noticed that the brake lights on our old AK have stopped working, (both stop lights). As it would unusual for both bulbs to fail simultaneously what is the most likely cause?

Is it a fuse? If so can you tell me the correct one to check?

If not a fuse then it is probably the brake pedal stop light switch. How often do they fail and how easy is it to replace. Access looks very difficult so any tips and suggestions warmly welcomed. Where would be the best, (cheapest) place to purchase the replacement part? I could go to a Citroen dealer but would a motor factor/Halfords/eBay have such an item?

To test the brake switch I take it I just short the two wires together. If the lights come on then I take it that the switch is faulty.

Thanks for your replies.

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1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - mfarrow
As it would unusual for both bulbs to fail simultaneously


Are you sure?
To test the brake switch I take it I just short the two wires together.
If the lights come on then I take it that the switch is faulty.


Correct.
1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Simon
Never automatically discount the simple things and always check them first. You would be surprised at the coincidences that can happen.

If it was me I would start by checking that both bulbs are okay, then check the fuse and only when you are happy that these items are servicable move on to the actual brake light switch on the pedal.
1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Quicksilver
Yes thanks for that. I will start in that sequence.

Do you happen to know the fuse value and location, (I know where the fusebox is).

I have been testing the brakes a lot recently, (different problem) so maybe I did just burn them out, (maybe not at the same time)?

Thanks,
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1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Quicksilver
Bump!

Anybody know the fuse value, (A) and number please?

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1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - jc2
Did you notice them go simultaneously or did you just realize that neither was working when you looked? If you saw them both fail at the same time,it is more likely to be fuse/switch.
1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Quicksilver
They were working OK about 2 weeks ago. But just noticed none working yesterday. I suspect the switch but will eliminate all possibilities before purchasing and replacing. I am not looking forward to the switch access under the dash.

I will have a good look tomorrow as I have other activities today.

If it is the switch are they freely available? Where is the best, (easiest) place to purchase a spare part during the Christmas break?

Thanks,
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1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - AndyT
Just to back up what others have already said, it is not so unusual for both bulbs to blow, and that's the obvious place to start.
1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Number_Cruncher
The other possible common factor on these nearly 20 year old French electrics is the earth point. It's years since I worked on one of these cars, but, IIRC, the earth connections are quite frail, and susceptible to corrosion.

1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Quicksilver
Thanks for all the suggestions!

Did some checking tonight. It is not the bulbs and it is not the fuse so it must be the switch! I will verify tomorrow.

Now the difficult question. Where can I purchase a replacement switch during the Christmas break? Would I get one at Halfords? Where else would you suggest I try considering most places are closed until Monday?

The car is currently in central Scotland and I have access to other transport so anywhere in the central belt is less than 1 hour away.

Thanks for your inputs.

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1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Simon
It depends on what the switch is like as to whether you can source one easily. If it is a universal type then you will probably get one at Halfords, if it is a bit more specialist then you may need to go to a motor factor that deals in French bits, such as German, Swedish, French (GSF). Other than that a main Citroen dealer.
1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Quicksilver
I removed the switch and temporarily repaired it. However, it will not last long as the internal plastic is stressed and my soldering iron "weld" will not last long. Have identified the correct part as a "Intermotor 51670 brake light switch". Now i need to find somebody open who has one.

Thanks,
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1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Armitage Shanks {p}
I am just finsihing a 12 hour shift at work and can't post the link but I googled for the part number and got answers and stiockinst but no price. Try for your self and good luck
1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Quicksilver
Any chance you could share the stockist information please? I can only get a hit on eBay and it is not an exact match. eBay price is OK but need it quickly if possible.

Thanks,
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1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Armitage Shanks {p}
Sorry Mods - Mozilla says Tinurl is a dangerous site so I can't minimize the link which is

partfinder.smpeurope.com/index.html?p=153&fullid=4...2

1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Simon
By the look of the picture of that switch any universal type switch will do the same job. Pop down to Halfords or a decent motor factors and you will more than likely find something that will fit and work perfectly on your AX.
1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Quicksilver
Unfortunately Halfords does not stock this type of item, (they only seem to have rocker switches).

Looks like a few phone calls tomorrow or eBay.

Thanks for all your help.

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1989 1124 Brake lights stopped working, any clues/ - Dynamic Dave
AS,

Its ok as the link you posted isn't too long anyway. That aside, have you got zone alarm's toolbar installed?

See www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=62342&...e for more info.

edit, just seen that you were the original author to that question. Did the suggestions not work?

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 28/12/2008 at 13:52