Is Supagard worth buying? - Happy Bunny
I am about to take delivery of a new car and the dealer has offered 'supagard' protection @£190 - this is a paint sealant, and fabric and carpet treatment. It claims it 'eliminates the need for waxing and polishing', & reduces oxidation of the paintwork and makes the interior repel stains etc.

Is it worth it?

Thanks

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Is Supagard worth buying? - Doc
I had it put on (at no cost) as part of a S/H deal.

It certainly makes the car retain its shine and the car is easier to wash, but I don't think I would pay £100 plus for it.

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Is Supagard worth buying? - Stuartli
It's got a three year paintwork guarantee but prices seem to vary:

Read up about it first:

www.supagard.co.uk/index.htm

Some prices elsewhere:

www.clean-image.co.uk/paintsealant/supagard.htm

tinyurl.com/6kmy7
Is Supagard worth buying? - AngryJonny
My Dad has it on his car and he seems to like it. Apparently it makes the car easier to wash, but don't expect to get your 190 notes back when you sell it.

Only you can decide if it's worth spending 190 quid on it.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Doc
I had it put on (at no cost) as part of a S/H deal.

It certainly makes the car retain its shine and the car is easier to wash, but I don't think I would pay £100 plus for it.

Is Supagard worth buying? - malteser
IIRC we had something similar when I was selling Ladas & Protons.
The only use for the stuff was for us to make money!
Roger. (in the UK for 3 more weeks and then back to the sun! )
Is Supagard worth buying? - Dave E
Don't know what it is they put on Mazda's, I think it is their own brand - MazdaGuard - I think. But is has lasted almost a year and a half with nothing more than a regular wash and the car was used all through last winter. It still looked ok but the water just wasn't beading like I thought it should, so on Tuesday this week I have given it the full Autoglym treatment.

I am deeply sad...............it doesn't half look good though.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Vansboy
As one of those strange people that enjoys detailing a car, I'd say better invest in some www.meguiars.co.uk products & relax n wax, on a Sunday morning!!


Regarding the tratments the dealers offer, yes they will 'seal in' the factory finish. But the application needs to be carried out with some precision, to be of real benefit.Otherwise, you could find it done badly, leaving your bodywork covered in lots scratches.

Get a 'free' first service thrown in, instead!

VB
Is Supagard worth buying? - J Bonington Jagworth
"Is it worth it?"

No.
Is Supagard worth buying? - No Do$h
My brother asked me this question when he purchased his Leon Cupra. I told him to get a valeting company round who, for £45, did much the same thing. He gets them back every 6 months and just gives the car a weekly wash/chamois and bi-monthly Autoglym. After 18 months and 48000 miles it still looks brand new.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Victorbox
Crumbs! If he Autoglym polishes the paint every two months he will be through to the primer in a year or so. I find Autoglym polish, if used with their own shampoo, usually lasts 12 months between applications.
Is Supagard worth buying? - BazzaBear {P}
Crumbs! If he Autoglym polishes the paint every two months he
will be through to the primer in a year or so.
I find Autoglym polish, if used with their own shampoo, usually
lasts 12 months between applications.


Are you thinking of T-cut? I don't think polish removes a layer of paint. If anything, it builds up a layer of protection.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Steve S
Autoglym Resin Polish has a mild cutting action but Extra Gloss is fine and does a great job.

I had supaguard thrown in and it is very good, particularly the wheel polish/protection. The alloys are really easy to clean.

Paying £190 depends on whether you value your time at more per afternoon. Otherwise you can do it yourself quite easily but don't forget to factor in the cost of the products.

I find it easy to maintain the finish by applying the extra gloss equivalent once a month which takes all of 40 mins - time well spent.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Victorbox
Unless you have a clear coat lacquered finish any polish will cut off a very thin "dead" layer of paint. That is what it is supposed to do as well as protecting the paint surface. Hence with ordinary cellulose or modern two pack finishes your final polishing cloth goes the colour of your paint. T-Cut just does it more agressively for all those pink cars out there that started off bright red. After T-Cut the car needs an application of a quality car polish afterwards. I suppose if you polish a lacquered finish too often you will cut through that as well.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Garethj
How many car washes would £190 buy you on bob-a-job weeks?
Is Supagard worth buying? - blue_haddock
No!

The only thing it's good for is a nice little earner for the salesman. (and thats coming from someone who is meant to sell it!)

Your better off buying some good quality cleaning kit and doing it yourself.
Is Supagard worth buying? - david edt
Absolutely!
Everyone has an opinion and I think it is great....looking at the facts
Endorsed by 22 motor manufacturers
3 year guarantee
20 years experience
by far the market leader

If you look at any product at any field within any industry you would have to be impressed by those facts.

Paint sealants can be seen by the consumer as a "quick win" for the saleman.
To be frank, if I though that about any sales person I wouldnt be buying the car from them.
If I am spending £5k, £10k, £20k + I would want to have developed a relationship with that sales person to make sure I am not paying over the odds; if I then think Supagard or Gap insurance is a con, then really what i am sayign id "My judgement wasnt good in the first place."

Is Supagard worth buying? - BobbyG
Even more impressive is a first post on a forum dredging up a subject from 4 years ago!
Is Supagard worth buying? - Pugugly
That aspect is in hand.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Paul I
Autoglym's life shine is better and can be purchased for £25 on Ebay. Like anything the cost is in the application. I have been on the course and it should take between 2-2.5 hours to do properly. The question is not is it worth the money because at £200 they are making about £150 profit but the quality of the aplication is everything !!

Materials £20 2.5 x hours cost to business about £10.00 per hour even a good detailer only charges £35 per hour retail.

get it done independently.
Is Supagard worth buying? - david edt
Autoglym vs Supagard

I suppose when it comes to shine, it is down to personal choice isnt it. Though I do believe the Supagard product which is produced by waxoyl fairs much better from independant test results.

Both products come with a gurantee.
Autoglym requires you to use a conserver every 30 or 60 days I think, with Supagard it is fit and forget for 3 years.
However there are many people who enjoy polishing their care come rain or shine and supagard provide product for that if you wish to continue doing so.

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With the supagard guarantee, you can do one of two things. take your car back to the retailer or you can contact supagard who aim to resolve all issues within 48 hours.

Finally retailer prices. They can vary upto £90 for the pack depending upon the additional contents. Standard dealership networks charge between £60-£100 per hour for their services, I will not justify that, it is their service not Supagard or any other product.
Supagard also requires professional application of the product.
We have to remember that your car could be worth £5000, £15000, or £50,000 do you really want to apply a cheap product on that sort of investment.

How many of us have spent £1000 on a 3 peice suite and then £250 for a water based scotchguard?

If you are serious about your car and want the best protection then use supagard, before you take the plunge Id strongly recommend that you phone them. £199, £299 or whatever price you pay is worth a ten minute call.
Is Supagard worth buying? - J1mbo
One thing you've all missed, is that to get the long life shine out of those dealer applied sealants, is that YOU must top it up. They are not designed to be applied once then never again, they sell these kits to top it up, but this is something they often fail to mention.

Your much better off spending £20 on a tin of Collinite DoubleCoat, that will last you up to 3 months.

There is no sealant that will last 12months or more, AG SRP is a polish to will remove some paint. It will last around a couple of months if that. Extra Gloss is a sealant and is very similar to the Supagard, much cheap but takes a while to cure.

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They all endorse the product cos its a massive money spinner with a massive profit margin, its not better than a dozen other items on the market, check out ebay and see what it costs to buy it yourself!
Is Supagard worth buying? - tintin01
I just cannot help but think that David is somehow connected to supaguard, such is his unbridled enthusiasm.

We had a similar thing put on my (used) car when we bought it. It does more or less what it says, but in no way is it worth £200 plus. I wouldn't bother with it again.

If you can get it thrown in for free, okay - otherwise get some Meguirs or Autoglym. Actually, you can buy the kits on ebay for £60 I believe. In my opinion, you are paying £150 or more, to have a guy spend an hour or two applying it.
Is Supagard worth buying? - gmac
In my opinion you are paying £150 or more to have a guy spend an hour
or two applying it.

Isn't that the case with anything you buy ?
You buy a £300 PC you're paying a guy £279 to throw £21 worth of bits together.
Is Supagard worth buying? - stunorthants26
Unless you absolutely dont wash your car, no its not worth it.

I have customers cars that I clean from new, once a month, just a good wash using a good high quality wash/wax ( that you cant buy in the shops ) and a polish once a year and the water beads up nicely.

Anyone could do this, requires no special effort either.

How dirty and how easy to clean wheels are has alot more to do with the pads and type of driving than any amount of protection. I clean a car with Superguard on its wheels and they are a pig to get clean after just two weeks so I dont buy into the stuff having a direct effect, may just get lucky with a certain car.


Is Supagard worth buying? - duncansand
I had it put on my current car - negotiated in as part of the deal. I got a load of waffle from the dealer about it protecting the paintwork from bird-poo damage when he thought I might pay real money for it. Funnily enough, this is the only car that I've actually had bird-poo damage the paintwork. When I tried to claim on the supposed warranty, they claimed I'd not washed it off within 24 hours so the warranty was invalid. Well, kind of makes the "guarantee" worthless - the only circumstances in which bird-poo might cause damage is exactly when you aren't covered. I was going to complain but ultimately couldn't be bothered as I'd payed next-to-nothing for it. Made a mental note not to bother next time though - total waste of money. Guarantee not worth the paper its written on. Might make the car look shiny a little longer, but as others have said, for the price you could pay for a few professional valets. As we all know, cars drive better when they've just been valeted, so you get the added bonus of improved performance ;-)
Is Supagard worth buying? - boxsterboy
I bought a 3-year old E320CDI a couple of weeks ago and noticed during the test drive that the leather was looking particularly clean, and that there was a 'Merc Star Guard' case of polish on the back seat.

I was given the usual sales patter for the Merc Star Guard (for only £490!), but politely declined. Come collection the sales person said that the car had already been treated 'by mistake', confirming my suspicions. There's nothing better than a free lunch!
Is Supagard worth buying? - Falkirk Bairn
There are lots of people who swear by Supagard

1) Car Salesman - commission
2) Garage Acct- cash
3) The valet squad - a job
4) Polish distributor - cash

I think that is the whole list!
Is Supagard worth buying? - audiA6tdi
It wont have been put on by a mistake, it will have been purposly applied. I used to work in car sales.
As a salesman we were all targeted. Say for example you had a target of 14 cars, 4 of those would have to be Diamond Brite, the other 4 would have to have Gap Insurance sold, and the other 6 would have to have extended warrantys. If you didnt hit your 'add on' target you used to get less of a % of the bottom line (profit) of the car.
So come the end of the month salesmen just write in the diamond brite into the deal and reduce the selling price by £300. You still pay the same and are probably unaware that the order for has been altered. Half the time customers would drive off the forcourt unaware they had Gap or diamond brite until the paperwork came in the post.

Salesmen working on Newcars would not apply Diamond brite etc to black cars as half the time they would look worse due to the swirling marks by using the Diamond brite.

What i would say is DONT buy it. I used to get bottles of the stuff free and wouldnt apply it to my own car. Its a very thin product and wears off quite quickly.
For my own car i use auto glym polish. A great job and you know its done properly.

When i worked for Ford we brought it in at £20.10 a pack and resold it for £300!

I used to get the product free and I wouldnt use it. So it says little about the product.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Blue {P}
When doing a proper job on my gran's car lately it was a simple AG Resin Polish followed by AG Extra Gloss, in my experience that little combo will last about a year with no additional work bar washes with decent shampoo.

Cost for all the stuff (enough to last 4 or 5 years depending on car size) will be about £30.

Is Supagard worth buying? - bintang
I gather Superguard kits contain enough for more than one car, but not two. If you are friendly with staff, they might do your car cheaply on the side. My informant tells me staff regularly do their own cars for nothing.
Is Supagard worth buying? - audiA6tdi
When the dealership I was working at was being knocked down i was told to empty the valet bay of all old stock and throw it away. There were about 200 bottles of the stuff, which my manager let me keep instead of going in the bin!
Is Supagard worth buying? - daveyjp
My local valeter has loads of bottle of the stuff. He gets a kit everytime a mug ticks it on the order form. He uses a bottle until it runs out which can be quite a few cars. I imagine half the stuff on e-bay is from similar sources.
Is Supagard worth buying? - stunorthants26
I used to apply Diamondbrite and can confirm its pretty well useless ( I wont say con for obvious reasons ) - never believe what you are told, its total rubbish and as someone has said, its just a little earner that few people manage to keep up with so warranty is void very quickly.

When I was made redundant and replaced with contract workers where I learnt my trade, we also split a haul of Diamondbrite ( and various other chems ) as you always had too much.
Is Supagard worth buying? - J1mbo
For what its worth chaps, I get my cleaning stuff from www.cleanyourcar.co.uk. I know its a plug, but I don't have a connection with him, just a happy customer.

You don't have to pay silly money for waxes and sealant, AG do very good stuff, I am using Collinite 845 on my car, I am very fussy on my "detailing" and it cost less than £20.

Its more about preping the paint work, using good quaility MF cloths and putting on 2 or 3 *THIN* layers of wax/sealant. Never put a thick layer on.

I am not a fan of AG SRP cos it can stain trim and is quite chalky, the stuff that I use you can actually apply to black trim and it looks dark and wet.

Enjoy...
Is Supagard worth buying? - prm72
Recently did my car with Turtle Wax Ice, only takes 15 mins, it can go on plastic, paint, wheels, the lot, i was well pleased with the result.
Is Supagard worth buying? - adverse camber
Supagard - rubbish imo.

My car was done before I bought it - I am still stuck with the swirl marks it left. I just can't be bothered to go to all the effort to get it off.
Is Supagard worth buying? - audiA6tdi
classic sales pitch we had to do ...Mr customer it removes 0.2 microns of paint everytime you polish your car, wouldnt it be better to never polish your car again and use Diamond brite'?

it would take about 2 years of polishing to remove 0.2 microns of paint...or there about.

Basically a complete waste of money...AVOID!
Is Supagard worth buying? - NomadicUK
I'm buying a year old used car and my dealer has tried to persuade me to get Supagard & GAP. He was incredibly persuasive, he almost frighted me with all the possible things that could go wrong if I didn't get them both. Oh and he said they were doing a deal 400 quid for both. I agreed then cancelled after a mate said it's all available on-line for less than half the price and some of the dealers don't even put the Supagard stuff on! Plus my insurance company practically said GAP was a con on a used car.

This whole experience has made me lose my excitement about my car.

I understand the work involved with Supagard, but as GAP is only about 130 on-line and a Supagard kit is 30, they wanted 240 quid for a posh wax job that requires maintenance or your guarantee is invalid.

Also the GAP insurance is surely pointless on a used car, the car I'm buying has already depreciated by 35%. If they had been more realistic with the price, say 250 quid all in I'd have been happy!
Is Supagard worth buying? - oilrag
Dealer put it on my last car for free as they had some left over from a previous customer. (i`ve bought several new cars from them including two at once and they know better than to try to sell me it )

It seemed gone really after a couple of washes with hot washing up liquid. Just as well seemingly - its easier to keep the paint clean if you can wash it thoroughly. If it seems to not stand up to that - what price a seagull dropping on the roof ?

Allegedly its in the `nice little earner` category.... or a case of `Emperors new clothes` seemingly (yes of course its still there..it has to be;) if purchased at great expense.

(Don`t bother)

Edited by oilrag on 13/12/2008 at 18:16

Is Supagard worth buying? - J500ANT
Return to Invoice GAP is definitely worth getting at the online price - and is as useful on a new or a used car, or have you bought the one and only car that wont ever depreciate?

Edited by J500ANT on 13/12/2008 at 19:15

Is Supagard worth buying? - Victorbox
It seemed gone really after a couple of washes with hot washing up liquid.


You are joking ... aren't you?
Is Supagard worth buying? - gordonbennet
I was given a pack of this stuff or its main competitor, and applied it as per instructions on the new pick up, which is now 15 months old, how time flies.

Matter of weeks later after a few washes with proper car wash/wax (washing up liquid, really OR) it no longer had any water displacement properties at all.
Glad i hadn't paid through the nose for it, or at all seeing as how it was next to useless.

Its just the icing on the cake for the salesperson.

Is Supagard worth buying? - bintang
As I noted in an earlier thread, it seems that the materials are supplied in kits more than enough for one car, though not enough for two. I knew someone who had a mate who was a Superguard operative and who did his car for £15. The mate said he and his fellow operatives do their own cars over regularly for nothing.
Is Supagard worth buying? - dp-sg
you should not use an abrasive car wash or washing up liquid on your car.
The salseman should have told you.
Just wash it with water.

No one should ever ever use washing up liquid...its the best way to destroy your car.
Is Supagard worth buying? - oilrag
I`ve been using washing up liquid on our cars for over 40 years - including a Polo we had for 17 years.

It didn`t destroy any...
Is Supagard worth buying? - Armitage Shanks {p}
You can do a better job yourself with Simoniz wax or Autoglym. Supagard comes out of the same cupboard as fuel line magnets and other such snares and delusions!
Is Supagard worth buying? - foxyvauxy
HOW CAN YOU TELL IT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN CARRIED OUT, BECAUSE I'M SURE I'VE JUST BEEN DONE???!!!!

I am ashamed to say I got talked into this scam for the princely sum of, are you ready.....£299!! When I gasped the other day when it was first mentioned, the sales guy said it had just been reduced in price! and I was fed all the sales waffle which helped convince me it would give my vehicle a showroom finish that would last at least 3yrs minimum and therefore was well worth it.

Well today I picked my 'new' motor up (4yrs old) and to say the whole thing has taken the 'shine' off the whole exprience, no pun intended, is an absolute understatement.

As soon as I picked the vehicle up and was handed the keys, I sat in the drivers seat and queried with the salesman whether they had forgotten to do the supagard as there was no visible difference to the interior, I could still see a lot of the dust that had been lying around when I test drove it, twice and the seat were marked?!!
To top it all my daughter and a close friend of mine who had accompanied me on a test drive earlier in the week, this afternoon have each independently got into the vehicle and their first words were "I thought they were going to clean it?!!" and "Did you decide not to have that cleaning protection thing done then?"...... How embarrassed and angry do I feel right now?!!!!!!!!!!

How would I ever go about proving it hasn't been done although every intuitive nerve in my body tells me it hasn't, they have told me they have. I was not given a complimentary supagard pack on departure (which in my mind is a further indictment that it has not even been touched with the stuff) and there is white stuff like the residue of a quick T-cut all over the car's exterior paintwork.

In my view, this car has had nothing done to it except a quick T-cut type polish and they have stung me for a £1 short of £300.........I feel sick and could cry right now?!!!!!

What would you do in this situation?
Is Supagard worth buying? - scotty
Has anyone ever watched the film Fargo. Is this all similar to the car treatment scam being sold at the dealership in that movie.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Pugugly
My Golf GTi was given the "treatment" I knocked them down to a £150.00. After 2 years ownership the car keeps far cleaner than any other black car I've owned and I've never polished it. In fairness its OK. I had a stack of Autoglym kit from them in the boot as well.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Altea Ego
My Golf GTi was given the "treatment" I knocked them down to a £150.00. After
2 years ownership the car keeps far cleaner than any other black car I've owned
and I've never polished it. In fairness its OK. I had a stack of Autoglym
kit from them in the boot as well.


My black car was not treated. It stays cleaner than any other car I have seen. I washed it yesterday, the first time since I drove it over the Alps last October. At times it got really filthy, but the next rain shower just washed it all off


I think its just down to the quality of VAG black paint PU.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Bill Payer
I think its just down to the quality of VAG black paint PU.

Are you saying it's good or bad?

Daughter has a SEAT Ibiza in VAG Magic Black and it's absolutely horrendous to get clean and it shows every little scratch and mark.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Martin Devon
Would Sir like a straw??

MD
Is Supagard worth buying? - oilrag
Really sorry to hear of your situation, Foxy. I hope you can put it down to experience and not let it spoil the enjoyment of your car.

All the best
Is Supagard worth buying? - deepwith
We were offered, and accepted, Supergard when we bought 2 cars from Nissan. We were offered it for one for £180, which we turned down. We were then offered it for both cars for the same price, so said yes.
Don't know about anyone else, but we could smell that the interior had been done - although it had only just been completed when we collected the cars. It also left a little beading on the instrument panel.
We got two very fancy kits of cleaning materials, clothes and so on including fabric cleaner in one kit and leather cleaner in the other one. Also included was a key fob for each key, offering a reward for anyone handing the keys into a Police Station or ringing the number on the fob.
Three years on, the cars, one dark green (Nissan Racing Green??) and one dark blue both seem to keep reasonably clean and the rural mud coating comes off easily.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Xtype
Sorry to hear your sad tale. I would complain to the garage (sales manager or better still dealer principal) who should get the car back in and have it properly done. Better still get your money back. You should be able tell if its done as the scotch guard sprayed on the seats smells like nail varnish remover.
When I worked in the used car trade this kind of thing happened all the time. Salesmen would forget about a car that was going out and in the end the Diamond Brite would never get put on. I worked on used cars, but the salesmen in new cars refused to apply it to black cars, even if the customer had paid for it as the valeters always seemed to make a mess of the paintwork with swirling marks, probably from the dirty old rags they applied it with!
Ive said it before on this forum and il say it again - the contents can be brought on ebay for around £10. The treatment is not worth £300 and the guys applying it at the dealership are normally 16- 20 year old kids, not highly trained valeters as the salesman will have you beleieve.
We used to have a Diamon Brite/Superguard salesman that visited the dealership couple times a year for training and we used to joke what a load of pap this stuff was.
The classic line they would try to get you to use on a customer was 'everytime you polish your car you remove 0.2 microns of paint, destroying the surface'.
In reality it would take months of constant polishing to remove the paint.

Load of old cobblers. Avoid like the plague. I had about 10 bottles of the stuff from the old job in the garage which ive just chucked. Use Autoglym and save yourself any hassle.
Is Supagard worth buying? - Mr X
Take your complaint straight to trading standards and let them follow it up. Why waste your own time arguing the toss with con men ?
Is Supagard worth buying? - bell boy
i was at a garage closing down sale the other month and there was boxes of this type of stuff,it was held in such high regard it wasnt even in the sale,i considered leaving an after sales bid on it but decided not to bother
thing is with scotchguard it can make seat material harder anyway and if you think in the bigger picture how many times have you really ruined an interior that cant be valeted in the normal way ,its ciggys that kill interiors
as for the exterior just give it the full monty in the auto car wash once a month,much more fun watching all the brushes and squirty things doing their jobs
its just a sales add on in my opinion
Is Supagard worth buying? - Mapmaker
>>Why waste your own time arguing the toss with con men ?

Because he has absolutely no proof whatsoever. Only way is to charm the salesman.

What sort of car do you drive, Mr Cross?
Is Supagard worth buying? - targabug

Its a case of do we see more value in doing it ourselves with products that don't guarantee any protection to the paint other than produce a shiny finish for a while and pay what we think is a reasonable price for the polish etc or have an understanding of what this product actually does in its protection, application and guarantee.

I have bought a new car and had it explained fully what it does and how it will protect my car and was shown the differences between a brand new car in metallic black and a 4 year old car in the same metallic black but not protected with Supagard. It had been regularly polished and its surprisng how the paint looked faded and not as intense and vibrant as the new car finish.

He showed me a Red car that was 5yrs old in the service department that had been Supagarded and it looked as Vibrant as the new one in the showroom.

I made the decision to have my car Supagarded with the Gold Pack I paid £349 and the results initially was that it didn't look any different but after 3 years now the paint looks as good as the cars in the showroom, and others don't.

 

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