Hi,
I checked the dvla website about removing an expired endorsement from my licence (SP30). This might be a daft question, but do I need to mention an expired endorsement to a future insurance company? If I do, what's the benefit in paying to have it removed from my licence? All I can think of is if I am hiring a car in the future and they want to see my licence.
Cheers..
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If you look at the on-line quotes for car insurance, it asks if you've had any motoring offences in the past five years. Thus, if the offence has expired, then it doesn't make any difference whether it's on your licence or not.
Andy
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One SP30 won't trouble you when hiring a car.
Is it not against the spirit of the law for insurance companies to take legally expired convictions into account? I tried suggesting this to the call centre person once, but unsurprisingly they weren't interested.
Mattster
Boycott shoddy build and reliability.
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A friend was stopped by a policeman for speeding and got away with a good talking to. The friendly policeman suggested he should have the expired endorsements removed, as it would give a better impression if he was subsequently stopped by another policeman.
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That was similar to my experience too mapmaker, when stopped some years back and with an expired endorsement on my licence.
Pleading mitigation, I said to Mr Plod "I don't usually speed".
He said "That's not what this licence is telling me", and promptly booked me.
Now I don't carry my licence (which still shows endorsements and a short ban, all expired) - which will prevent anyone jumping to conclusions about my history!
The other amusing and related episode was when I was up before the beak for the 108 mph offence. The two endorsements were expired. The Clerk of Court said to the Bench "the defendent has a clean driving licence" but the look she gave me while saying it was very knowing....
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you have endorsements you would be better not to show it at the scene but instead take a producer. If they see you have points for another offence they are more likely to do you I would think especially if the offence was the same/similar
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How can you have endorsements removed when they're written on your licence in best blue biro? Surely you'd have to pay for a whole new licence, which for me would mean switching to a photocard one that I'm keen to avoid at all costs. Don't need to see myself every time I open my wallet thanks!
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Better not
1) Change your name
2) Move house
3) Ask for endorsements to be removed
As all of the above will need a nice new licence with a picture of a beaming PG on the front.
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Hmm... well given that...
1. I can't find anyone who wants to marry me.
2. Nobody wants to give me a job (apparently on Wednesday I wrote by far the best press release in the test and gave the best interview but they gave the job to someone with more experience, even though I have the experience they ask for. Grr)
3. I spend most of my time in Staffordshire where if you haven't got at least 3 points thanks to the forest of s************s, you don't really belong...
I can't see me needing a new licence for a while!
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1. Aw, I'm sure that can't be the case. Anyway, why the hurry?
2. Don't you hate it when that happens? They probably had to pay more as well.
3. Get out of there!
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1. (See 2.)
2. Remember, if they didn't want you, you didn't want them. No point wanting to work for somebody who doesn't want you to work for them. (Small consolation I know, but their loss, not yours!)
3. Nice county.
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Awwww... sometimes coming here is like having a host of dads ready to offer words of comfort and encouragement!
ND - afraid I really have fallen for Staffordshire and wont be leaving if I can help it... apart from Stoke. I had to live there for six months when I started uni and two burglaries were enough for me. I'm playing for a show there at the moment, and am reminded every night of why I chose to leave - the grey fog seems to close in as you leave junction 15 of the M6. (M6 - there's your motoring reference.)
(And yes.. I should be doing some work now I have a laptop to use that isn't soaked in white wine, but so far all I've done is make beautiful sculptures out of my easter egg wrappers... oh dear!)
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Well I'm a little young to be your dad. Perhaps an older brother? Like 12 years older?
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>>Like 12 years older?
I don't think she's as old as 30.
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You cheeky pink fluffy dice!
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What's the best thing to come from out of Stoke? (besides me?)
The D-road
Boom, boom
I'll get me coat.
PDC
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An endorsement lasts 3 years, not 5. It stays on your license for 4 years even though it only counts for 3. This is so that if if you get done just before the 3 years are up, and the case takes eg: 3 months to get to court, the endosement is still visible to the court. This rule dates from before computers etc became common.
A fine becomes "spent" after 5 years under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974. When a conviction is spent, you can legally say you have never had it. (there are now exeptions for certain jobs, such as working with children).
My insurance Co do not change the premium even with 2 endorsements totalling 6 points. Get a new insurance Co if they up your payment for 2 endorsements.
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Lasts a bit longer Richard if drink/drugs or failing to provide specimen and disqualification involved. In these cases endorsement effective until 11 (eleven) years have elapsed since conviction.
DVD
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Continuing on the Stoke theme, why is it called the D-road? I've always wondered. It just refers to the stretch of the A500 between the A34 and Hanley, right?
Oh, and in agreement to PG fog point, I remember an old gent I knew in Congleton who had this to say about Stoke:
If the weather is nice in Congleton, then it's foul in Stoke.
If it's bad in Congleton... then it's even worse in Stoke.
I've never known him be wrong yet. The cinema seats in Newcastle-under-Lyme are very comfortable though :D
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>A fine becomes "spent" after 5 years under the Rehabilitation >of Offenders Act 1974. When a conviction is spent, you can >legally say you have never had it.
Pologirl's stupid question of the week (dissertation handed in on Friday by the way!!)...
I've got 6 points - does the above quote mean I've got two convictions, and therefore a criminal record. Don't think it does, does it?
>Continuing on the Stoke theme, why is it called the D-road? >I've always wondered. It just refers to the stretch of the A500 >between the A34 and Hanley, right?
I asked this when I heard my first roadtraf when I started working in Staffs. Apparently it's as simple as "because the road is D shaped", but I've never looked on a map to confirm this.
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>Continuing on the Stoke theme, why is it called the D-road? >I've always wondered. It just refers to the stretch of the A500 >between the A34 and Hanley, right? I asked this when I heard my first roadtraf when I started working in Staffs. Apparently it's as simple as "because the road is D shaped", but I've never looked on a map to confirm this.
Hmm... Now I've finally found the answer, it's a bit of an anti-climax to be honest. Those Stokians, what a witty bunch, eh? ;)
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Yup, the "it makes a D shape with the M6" is the most probably answer, as debated fiercly in t'sentinel many many years ago.
Besides, calling it the D-road confuses the hell out of people who are looking for the A500. Maybe with all the reworking of the road taking place in stoke they could put up new name signs?
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Yep, you're a member of the criminal classes now PG, a true menace to society. In fact, I'm having some trouble with a pesky neighbour, would you mind making him an offer he can't refuse? ;-P
Now that I think about it, something is nagging at the back of my mind that it may make a difference if you got your points in front of a magistrate or not, but I could well be wrong about that. No doubt someone will be along soon to confirm this one way or the other.
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andymc
Vroom, vroom - mmmm, doughnuts
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