new haynes manual - SpamCan61 {P}
I see from the ads. to the right of the backroom that there is a new haynes manual. I won't use the word in case it gets filtered ;-)

Anyway a couple of points come to mind ;-))

1) Does it use the phrase 'refitting is the reverse of removal'?

2) What does it use instead of spanners to indicate the difficulty of the 'job' so to speak?

Sorry I'll get back in my box now....
new haynes manual - Mark (RLBS)
oh god, I knew this would happen....

Go on then, get out all your comments and puns, I'll let this run for a while.
new haynes manual - helicopter
'Interesting' symbolism of gearstick and pink fluffy dice. Is this advert really suitable for a family website?
new haynes manual - Altea Ego
Whats in the section on basic tools required?
new haynes manual - Stargazer {P}
Whats in the section on basic tools required?


Lithium high temp grease for all moving bearing surfaces?
new haynes manual - Keith S
Major servicing requirements?
new haynes manual - No Do$h
I wonder how frequently you are meant to change the lubricant?
new haynes manual - THe Growler
Whats in the section on basic tools required?


Spanner, screwer, lever and bolt.
new haynes manual - No Do$h
'Interesting' symbolism of gearstick and pink fluffy dice. Is this advert
really suitable for a family website?


I guess the very presence of such an ad indicates "yes".
new haynes manual - frostbite
Might as well join in I suppose.....

What graphics are used to denote the degrees of difficulty?
new haynes manual - helicopter
Whats that design fault reported in the manual - exhaust pipe too near to primary input . Screws , nuts , nipples - its too easy to perm any gag you like... All in the best possible taste of course!.
new haynes manual - John R @ Work {P}
Helicopter (or can I call you Heli?)

There wouldn't be a Family without the subject the manual covers... Haynes has been a respected publisher of manuals for years. Why limit their experience to mechanicals?

PS.
I did think at first it was April 1st come early, (Er? is that subject covered in the book?)

John R
new haynes manual - 3500S
Adds a whole new meaning to the sharp inhalation of breath through pursed lips followed by the immortal remark 'Your big end's gone.'
new haynes manual - No Do$h
Ouch!
new haynes manual - footy_72
i've just blown a head gasket and there's mayonnaise everywhere.........

am i on the right forum?
new haynes manual - Dynamic Dave
When do they recommend changing the suspender belt?
new haynes manual - Stuartli
As the nut said to the bolt: "No hanky pankey until you've put a washer on..."
new haynes manual - rory
Most of us are familiar with the word hanky, but I've often wondered, what's a pankey ?
new haynes manual - Phoenicks
In response to Helicopter i would like to ask whether there are any 4 years olds using this forum to ask on replacing the rear axle of their peddle car? No. Thats because there are no children using this forum. The youngest person would probably be 16 and i bet they're having more sex than most on here! Lighten up a bit. Its not really a family forum, its a forum for petrolheads, not something the whole family will use.

On a reverse note i do think its cheapens Haynes - its a bit like a Saville Row tailor making a Leopard Skin g string for a bloke. bit naff, and only offensive on the eyes...

new haynes manual - helicopter
My word - Never has a forgotten exclamation mark caused such a furore - Fella's on occasion I have had my Knuckles rapped by the mods for slipping in ( ooh er missis ) the slightest hint of smut or innuendo and I had wondered how long it was going to be before this manual appeared in the forum and the reaction to it.


I'm not agin sex and of course HJ can put on the forum what he likes. Get it , got it , good!!!!!
new haynes manual - No Do$h
Get it


Only when I'm at home. One of the down sides of working away
got it


Er, yes?
good!!!!!


So I'm told.......
new haynes manual - volvoman
Well I hope it contains lots of full colour photos and they are a lot clearer than those I've come across in my Haynes Manuals ;)
new haynes manual - No Do$h
How long before we see "used" examples for sale on e-Bay, complete with oily thumbprints on the pages covering the "difficult" bits?
new haynes manual - AN Other
An excellent point - in my experience Haynes NEVER include a sharp, properly lit photo of the part of the job you'd really like to see pictured in detail. Let's hope this manual doesn't let us all down in this respect!
new haynes manual - SpamCan61 {P}
Let's hope the manual isn't full of photos of continental models with the bits on the wrong side of the 'bodywork' like the Vauxhall ones ;-))
I'm sure some of these can be adapted! - NARU
I'm sure some of these can be adapted/updated ...

HAYNES MANUAL - THE REAL MEANINGS

Haynes: Rotate anticlockwise.
Translation: Clamp with molegrips (adjustable wrench) then beat repeatedly with hammer anticlockwise. You do know which way is anticlockwise, don't you?

Haynes: Should remove easily.
Translation: Will be corroded into place ... clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with a hammer.

Haynes: Remove small retaining clip.
Translation: Take off 15 years of stubborn crud, it's there somewhere.

Haynes: This is a snug fit.
Translation: You will skin your knuckles! ... Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.

Haynes: This is a tight fit.
Translation: Not a hope in hell matey! ... Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.

Haynes: As described in Chapter 7...
Translation: That'll teach you not to read through before you start, now you are looking at scarey photos of the inside of a gearbox.

Haynes: Locate ...
Translation: This photo of a hex nut is the only clue we're giving you.

Haynes: Pry...
Translation: Hammer a screwdriver into...

Haynes: Undo...
Translation: Go buy a tin of WD40 (catering size).

Haynes: Ease ...
Translation: Apply superhuman strength to ...

Haynes: Retain tiny spring...
Translation: "Jeez what was that, it nearly had my eye out"!

Haynes: Press and rotate to remove bulb...
Translation: OK - that's the glass bit off, now fetch some good pliers to dig out the bayonet part and remaining glass shards.

Haynes: Lightly...
Translation: Start off lightly and build up till the veins on your forehead are throbbing then re-check the manual because what you are doing now cannot be considered "lightly".

Haynes: Weekly checks...
Translation: If it isn't broken don't fix it!

Haynes: Routine maintenance...
Translation: If it isn't broken... it's about to be!

Haynes: One spanner rating (simple).
Translation: Your Mum could do this... so how did you manage to botch it up?

Haynes: Two spanner rating.
Translation: Now you may think that you can do this because two is a low, tiny, ikkle number... but you also thought that the wiring diagram was a map of the Tokyo underground (in fact that would have been more use to you).

Haynes: Three spanner rating (intermediate).
Translation: Make sure you won't need your car for a couple of days and that your AA cover includes Home Start.
Translation: But Novas are easy to maintain right... right? So you think three Nova spanners has got to be like a 'regular car' two spanner job.

Haynes: Four spanner rating.
Translation: You are seriously considering this aren't you, you pleb!

Haynes: Five spanner rating (expert).
Translation: OK - but don't expect us to ride it afterwards!!!
Translation #2: Don't ever carry your loved ones in it again and don't mention it to your insurance company.

Haynes: If not, you can fabricate your own special tool like this...
Translation: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Haynes: Compress...
Translation: Squeeze with all your might, jump up and down on, swear at, throw at the garage wall, then search for it in the dark corner of the garage whilst muttering "b*****" repeatedly under your breath.

Haynes: Inspect...
Translation: Squint at really hard and pretend you know what you are looking at, then declare in a loud knowing voice to your wife "Yep, as I thought, it's going to need a new one"!

Haynes: Carefully...
Translation: You are about to cut yourself!

Haynes: Retaining nut...
Translation: Yes, that's it, that big spherical blob of rust.

Haynes: Get an assistant...
Translation: Prepare to humiliate yourself in front of someone you know.

Haynes: Turning the engine will be easier with the spark plugs removed.
Translation: However, starting the engine afterwards will be much harder. Once that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach has subsided, you can start to feel deeply ashamed as you gingerly refit the spark plugs.

Haynes: Refitting is the reverse sequence to removal.
Translation: But you swear in different places.

Haynes: Locate securing bolt.
Translation: Remember that worrying noise when you drove along the A38 last summer? That's where you'll find the securing bolt.

Haynes: Prise away plastic locating pegs...
Translation: Snap off...

Haynes: Remove drum retaining pin.
Translation: Break every screwdriver in your box.

Haynes: Using a suitable drift or pin-punch...
Translation: The biggest nail in your tool box isn't a suitable drift!

Haynes: Everyday toolkit
Translation: Ensure you have an RAC Card & Mobile Phone

Haynes: Apply moderate heat...
Translation: Placing your mouth near it and huffing isn't moderate heat.
Translation #2: Heat up until glowing red, if it still doesn't come undone use a hacksaw.
Translation #3: Unless you have a blast furnace, don't bother. Clamp with adjustable wrench then beat repeatedly with hammer.

Haynes: Index
Translation: List of all the things in the book bar the thing you want to do!

Haynes: Remove oil filter using an oil filter chain wrench or length of bicycle chain.
Translation: Stick a screwdriver through it and beat handle repeatedly with a hammer.

Haynes: Replace old gasket with a new one.
Translation: I know I've got a tube of Krazy Glue around here somewhere.

Haynes: Grease well before refitting.
Translation: Spend an hour searching for your tub of grease before chancing upon a bottle of washing-up liquid (dish soap). Wipe some congealed washing up liquid from the dispenser nozzle and use that since it's got a similar texture and will probably get you to Halfords to buy some Castrol grease.

Haynes: See illustration for details
Translation: None of the illustrations notes will match the pictured exploded, numbered parts. The unit illustrated is from a previous or variant model. The actual location of the unit is never given.

Haynes: Drain off all fluids before removing cap.
Translation: Visit bathroom, spit on ground, remove baseball cap in order to scratch head in perplexity.

Haynes: Top up fluids.
Translation: Drink 2 cans of beer and call out a mobile mechanic to undo the damage.

For Added Haynes Fun, go to the first section "Safety First" and read the bit about Hydrofluoric Acid. Would you really trust the advice of a book that uses this form of understatement?

The best one I encountered was how to change a brake sensor in a Ford Fiesta Popular Plus. The photo showing the location of the unit failed to mention the crucial detail of whether the item was located in the engine compartment or inside the car ..... and the helpful photo of what the thing looked like didn't give the reader any clues!



THE CONDENSED HAYNES MANUAL
All makes and models post-2000

For a modern car chock full of electronics, all that's in the Haynes Manual (aka "The Haynes Bumper Book of Jokes") is:

Routine Service: Take it to a main dealer and hand over a large amount of cash.

Advanced Service: Open the bonnet. Decide all that stuff is far too scary. Proceed with routine service (see above).



HAYNES GUIDE TO TOOLS OF THE TRADE

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer is nowadays used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive parts not far from the object we are trying to hit.

MECHANIC'S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on boxes containing seats and motorcycle jackets.

ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning steel Pop rivets in their holes until you die of old age, but it also works great for drilling mounting holes just above the brake line that goes to the rear wheel.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes.

MOLE-GRIPS/ADJUSTABLE WRENCH: Used to round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETELENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various flammable objects in your garage on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside a brake-drum you're trying to get the bearing race out of.

WHITWORTH SOCKETS: Once used for working on older cars and motorcycles, they are now used mainly for impersonating that 9/16 or 1/2 socket you've been searching for for the last 15 minutes.

DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, splattering it against that freshly painted part you were drying.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans rust off old bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprint whorls and hard-earned guitar callouses in about the time it takes you to say, "F...."

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering car to the ground after you have installed your new front disk brake setup, trapping the jack handle firmly under the front wing (fender).

EIGHT-FOOT LONG DOUGLAS FIR 2X4: Used for levering a car upward off a hydraulic jack.

TWEEZERS: A tool for removing wood splinters.

PHONE: Tool for calling your neighbour to see if he has another hydraulic floor jack.

SNAP-ON GASKET SCRAPER: Theoretically useful as a sandwich tool for spreading mayonnaise; used mainly for getting dog-doo off your boot.

BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool that snaps off in bolt holes and is ten times harder than any known drill bit.

TIMING LIGHT: A stroboscopic instrument for illuminating grease buildup.

TWO-TON HYDRAULIC ENGINE HOIST: A handy tool for testing the tensile strength of ground straps and brake lines you may have forgotten to disconnect.

CRAFTSMAN 1/2 x 16-INCH SCREWDRIVER: A large motor mount prying tool that inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end without the handle.

BATTERY ELECTROLYTE TESTER: A handy tool for transferring sulfuric acid from a car battery to the inside of your toolbox after determining that your battery is dead as a doornail, just as you thought.

AVIATION METAL SNIPS: See hacksaw.

INSPECTION LIGHT: The mechanic's own tanning booth. Sometimes called a drop light, it is a good source of vitamin D, "the sunshine vitamin," which is not otherwise found under cars at night. Health benefits aside, its main purpose is to consume 40-watt light bulbs at about the same rate as 105-mm howitzer shells during the Battle of the Bulge. More often dark than light, its name is somewhat misleading.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the lids of old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splash oil on your shirt; can also be used, as the name implies, to round off Phillips screw heads.

AIR COMPRESSOR: A machine that takes energy produced in a fossil-fuel burning power plant 200 miles away and transforms it into compressed air that travels by hose to a pneumatic impact wrench that grips rusty bolts last tightened 30 years ago by someone in Dagenham, and rounds them off.

PRY (CROW) BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to cut hoses 1/2 inch too short.

I'm sure some of these can be adapted! - glowplug
Can help but wonder what the troubleshooting section is like or even how long it is (troubleshooting section!)? At last a Haynes manual that the ladies in our lives might want us (and them hopefully) to read. Now where's the nearest Halfords...

Steve.
I'm sure some of these can be adapted! - Mark (RLBS)
Glowplug,

Its an assumption that its written from the male perspective - it might be a manual for women on how to get cheap and reliable service from us without paying expensive experts to do the maintenance.
new haynes manual - Dynamic Dave
Remember, every manual is based on a full stripdown and rebuild.

The knee bone is connected to the thigh bone.....
new haynes manual - Mark (RLBS)
Do I assume that if really a special tool is required you will not only be told the part number, but also be given advice as to whether or nto you can fabricate your own ??
new haynes manual - matt35 {P}
Being circumspect, I think it better not to contribute to this thread.

Matt35.
new haynes manual - Dwight Van Driver
Narrhhhh. Its a Thialand import. Them legs are a blokes?

DVD
new haynes manual - pdc {P}
£9.09 at Amazon
new haynes manual - Altea Ego
Narrhhhh. Its a Thialand import. Them legs are a blokes?


Growler should recognise them then.
new haynes manual - glowplug
Mark,

Never assumed it was written from a male perspective, that's your interpretation. However I doubt that many usual bookshops will carry it - I just don't see it along side the Jackie Collins, Barbara Taylor Bradfords, etc. However I'm reasonably confident motorists shops will and we know who mainly patronise's those kinds of shops. I think it also safe to say that women given the choice would go for a sex manual in a slightly different style. I think it seems a well targetted book.

Steve.
new haynes manual - GrumpyOldGit
Those legs are mesmerising. Absolutely beautiful

If you go to the website you can see example pages. Before you all rush off (probably too late to say that - footsteps fading in the distance) the pictures shown are unfortunately pretty naff cartoons.
Haynes Manual - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}
Is the new Haynes manual for real?
I find it rather distracting and inappropriate in a motoring forum.My attention keeps wandering on to other subjects- quick a cold shower.
Haynes Manual - frostbite
Interesting comment on my fellow backroomers.....

I usually read Discussions, then Technical, then go back to Discussion before marking all read because there's sometimes someone posted there while I have been reading.

Normally it says '1 new', maybe 2 or 3, this thread was headed 14 new !!
Haynes Manual - SjB {P}
Eh, that must be my missus in the driving seat!

(Yes, it was her legs I fell in love with first!)
new haynes manual - No Do$h
Mark,
Never assumed it was written from a male perspective, that's your
interpretation. However I doubt that many usual bookshops will carry it
- I just don't see it along side the Jackie Collins,
Barbara Taylor Bradfords, etc. However I'm reasonably confident motorists shops will
and we know who mainly patronise's those kinds of shops. I
think it also safe to say that women given the choice
would go for a sex manual in a slightly different style.
I think it seems a well targetted book.
Steve.


I saw it for sale in Borders at the weekend.
new haynes manual - 007
Being circumspect, I think it better not to contribute to this
thread.
Matt35.


Was that an operation which you had when you were a little boy?
new haynes manual - PhilW
Just found this thread - my wife said reading it was better than sex - but not quite as funny and took a hell of a lot longer. Just going out to check my fluid levels (on the car).
Note no exclamation marks, or smileys.
new haynes manual - smokie
Must be the only Haynes which doesn't promote d-i-y (or does it?...)
new haynes manual - puntoo
Is "G Spot" in the index ?
new haynes manual - No Do$h
It may be, but I bet it's "Main Dealer Service" only.

I wonder if there are any parts labelled "Warning, no user servicable parts inside"?
new haynes manual - teabelly
Yes but no one could find it....
teabelly
new haynes manual - matt35 {P}
007,

Exactly - not for any religious reasons - just the foresight of our Doctor.

Matt35.
new haynes manual - J Bonington Jagworth
I hope they took a standard model from the showroom - I wouldn't want one with a body kit or cosmetic enhancements...
new haynes manual - No Do$h
I'm sure there are the usual caveats on the cover:

All models 1988 and earlier (except automatic)

Emmissions testing must be an interesting chapter.....
new haynes manual - PhilW
I always use axle stands if I'm underneath - find my hydraulic jack a little unreliable these days.
new haynes manual - No Do$h
Hehehe,

Do you use a brick at each corner to reduce the risk of things falling off the stand?
new haynes manual - PhilW
There's no answer to that!!
but I do find these new hex screws beyond me - do you advise half inch or threes-eighths drive? Or are both inadequate?
One more whisky , then bed - I'll try the Talisker! No more postings - getting too risque! ND might wipe the thread!
Night, night!
new haynes manual - Peter D
Like all other Haynes MAnuals It forgets to tell you whether it is a left hand or right hand screw. !!
new haynes manual - SpamCan61 {P}
Will I need a Snap-On (tm)Toolkit?

Maybe we could turn this thread into the script for a potential multi-oscar block buster 'Carry on Servicing'. Sid James as HJ?
new haynes manual - madf
I read it FOC in Smiths.. Was not overimpressed..

Have not told SWMBO as she said I was due for replacement due to age of working surfaces and general surface corrosion:-(

madf


new haynes manual - Dan G
... gives a whole new meaning to re-bushing !!
new haynes manual - rory
.........and re-grinding
new haynes manual - J Bonington Jagworth
..and re-boring (sorry). Oh dear - aren't we predictable...