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Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - craig-pd130

This is quite interesting - a photographer gained access to MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, which was virtually abandoned over a decade ago when the company went belly-up.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809684/Photograp...l

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - oldroverboy.

I would have thought that it might give a bit of good PR if someone had the wit to allow the various bits (and there are lots of them, not shown) to be removed and given to someone like Rimmer bros. as there are lots and lots of bits. the doors, bonnets and boots for example from the bodyshells on the line as well as the many boxes of bits.

A friend who still does work for them on occasion was there a while back and is not optimistic for even the remaining employees.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - nick62
It always amazes me where all the people work, (who live in the new housing estates, built on former manufacturing sites, of which there are many)?

Tesco only have so many jobs working on the tills and stacking shelves afterall!
Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - John F

A sad reflection on our manufacturing and commercial ability. Even despite the Mini being so 'successful' it seems a loss was made on every one sold.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - Steveieb
Whatever happened to the Phoenix Three that were at the helm when all this happened?

My work colleague spent his retirement pay off on a Rover 75 only to find it was worthless over night!
Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - gordonbennet

Greed stupidity double dealing cutting and running.

The best thing that happened to Rover was Honda, which put much needed quality back into the product and the worse thing the sidelining of Honda in favour of a company who wanted certain sites, technology and one big name.

What i'd be really interested to know is who now owns the Longbridge site, which will be sold for £millions for housing in due course, and i wonder how much they picked it up for at the time, following the money would likely lead to interesting places.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - slippy118

Phoenix three retired with comfy pensions, but banned from running a company again.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - oldroverboy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Modwen_Properties

In January 2004 the company acquired a 230-acre site at Longbridge from Phoenix Venture Holdings. [3] The land at the Longbridge site was obtained by St Modwen Properties at a fraction of the actual value after the company paid a £100,000 property commission to a firm run by an associate of the Phoenix Four. [4]

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - oldroverboy.

Gordon might enjoy reading the report from page 255 about remuneration and bonuses

www.londonlovesbusiness.com/Journals/2012/02/02/BI...f

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - gordonbennet

Thanks ORB, only needed to skim the pages, how the screen hasn't been bricked i do not know, if i showed SWMBO it would have been.

Nice little earner onthe land coming to, kerching.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - Steveieb
Thank you for making us aware of this appalling situation.

Did this happen under the governance of Tony Blair who fought to protect his constituents at Nissan on Tyneside?

Again it shows that Honda are the good guys who have taken very little in government handouts and would have been the best option for the Rover group.

There has been uproar about the BHS affair but relatively little nationwide reaction to this news,
Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - slippy118

Mandy Mandelson was the key player as far as I recall, but yes Blair was conspicuous by his absence.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - slippy118

One thing not mentioned is the head gasket failure problem which damaged the company reputation. None of the owners sorted it.

And also competition with Daewoo was hard, who were selling cars in Uk fro 95 to 99 without a dealer network and with free servicing . Daewoo themselves went bust in 99.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - oldroverboy.

One thing not mentioned is the head gasket failure problem which damaged the company reputation. None of the owners sorted it.

The solution found was ready for use and ready for production when MGR went into administration.

The chinese version of the engine as used in the TF and MG6 and various Roewe products does not have the HGF problem. The problems came from increasing the capacity from 1.4 l upwards. Early k series 1.4 engines had very few problems, mostly due to the expansion tank overflow from the radiator blowing off the wire circlip used for the tiny hose. cure was a proper jubilee clip.

some information here

www.mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/engines/development_...m

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - gordonbennet

Didn't the aftermarket specialists quickly come up with a steel gasketwhich cured the head gasket problems permanently?

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - oldroverboy.

Didn't the aftermarket specialists quickly come up with a steel gasketwhich cured the head gasket problems permanently?

Following the collapse of MG Rover in 2005, the Chinese automaker Nanjing Automobile acquired the Longbridge plant and the intellectual property rights to many designs, including those of the K series engine. The Chinese owner, now SAIC Motor, went on to further develop the K series engine, renaming it "N series" and using it to power its current range of MG cars, the MG 6. The revisions included a different design of cylinder head gasket, higher tensile strength through-bolts and a stronger oil-rail fitted in the bottom end of the engine that the through bolts screw into. These revisions are sold by the British company XPart to solve the issues that some K series engines had of cylinder head gasket failure.

They also replaced the polycarbonate inlet manifold with a metallic one.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - alan1302
There has been uproar about the BHS affair but relatively little nationwide reaction to this news,

Why would there be a lot of reaction? Most people aren't aware of MG and the cars they produce and stopping production here in the UK is not a big story in any way.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - oldroverboy.
There has been uproar about the BHS affair but relatively little nationwide reaction to this news,

Why would there be a lot of reaction? Most people aren't aware of MG and the cars they produce and stopping production here in the UK is not a big story in any way.

This is not about the Chinese, but about the greed of individuals and venture capitalists (Phones4u anyone) (BHS)(name others at will,,, (I still have a phones 4 u contract active on the life network £6 amonth 1000 minutes 1 gb data) taking control of who they can and borrowing pots of money, awarding themselves a nice bonus nice salaries and then letting the Co go to the wall. who gets stiffed? shareholders/bankers and sadly and most importantly the workers.

I stll have friends who were ex BL/Rover/MGR employees and are still suffering the financial effects of the collapse.

One sad bit is that the chinese listened to the marketting men/PR who said that the MG brand could be revived.

A few years ago in this forum i stated that at £9995 ish the MG6 would have walked itself out of the showrooms selling in good numbers.

In fact the last MG6 petrols sold for £8995

The MG3 should be sold at £7995 base model with 5 years warranty/servicing/breakdown cover.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 30/09/2016 at 14:56

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - Avant

You should have been right, ORB - and you would have been if the cars had been good enough.

I know we don't believe every word written by magazine road testers, but there was such unanimity about the many and varied flaws in MG cars that they can't all be wrong. HJ is more specific, recognising the cars' good points but doubting that they outweigh the sparse dealer network and the poor residual values.

Dacia seem to have worked out how to produce acceptable cars at these prices, and I believe that all their models are selling well.

Edited by Avant on 30/09/2016 at 15:52

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - gordonbennet

Few dealers wouldn't have been a problem 30 years ago when the faults that couldn't be fixed with a hammer a crow bar would suffice, they are just too complicated now unless the vahicle is a modern but simple and well proved, like Japanese 4x4's destined for remote areas for example.

Rover whatever it was called had such bad publicity, and an overwhelming motoring writers general disdain that anything to do with the Rover name is fighting an uphill battle.

So steeped are people in what some motoring writers say that i still hear people slating a particular car because Top Gear or some other semi juvenile entertainment show were disparaging about it when comparing it with the current favourite concrete sprung product.

Maybe there's good reason people are herded at airports and such places, so many are sheeplike and seem unable to form an opinion of their own.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - nick62
Quote GB:
Maybe there's good reason people are herded at airports and such places, so many are sheeplike and seem unable to form an opinion of their own.
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Off-topic, but GB has lit my blue touch-paper:

Ever noticed how us Brits have to be told where to stand at security (and passport) control when leaving (and arriving in) the UK, (I truly detest flying for this very reason)? The lady who was doing the herding at Manchester passport control last time I arrived back in the UK, was very indignant when I suggested she would be better manning one of the booths instead of telling me which one to go to.

I can never remember the same thing happening at any foreign airport on the way home, everyone seems to be able to queue as required without nannying.

Another joke in UK airports is the fact that the gate is NEVER displayed until about 20 minutes before departure "because we don't know which gate it will be coming into Mr X", bullcarp, it is just a ploy get you to stay in the duty-free / cafe areas. Has anyone else nearly been driven to distraction at Manchester T1, where it is virtually a non-stop slalom through the duty-free area before you reach the lounge, it drives me mad?

Edited by nick62 on 01/10/2016 at 00:53

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - oldroverboy.

You should have been right, ORB - and you would have been if the cars had been good enough.

The cars would have been good enough at the right price!

I have driven both, am MG6 1.8 petrol and an MG3 and while they are not the latest fashion/engineering etc at the right price they would sell.

Dacia prove the point. If you look at what an mg3 costs to produce the pricing is possible, and as an add on comment, the MG GS is overpriced too by £2500-3000.

It should be marketed against the Ssangyong tivoli not the korando or the suzuki vitara.

But the pr men have got their word in...

Read this for a "review" www.whatcar.com/news/mg-gs-vs-suzuki-vitara/

Edited by oldroverboy. on 30/09/2016 at 16:38

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - mss1tw
Amazing to see it's still in the same state

Various Urban Exploration sites had loads of pics back in 2006/7 when the dust had settled and the story had dropped from people's attention.
Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - Wackyracer

I suppose its the end result of more educated consumers and a wider choice, coupled to Rover not actually understanding what their customers really want.

Sadly BL/Rover reminds me of the Russian car manufacturers during the Soviet union era where they produced the same old car with the same old faults year after year, changing it's appearance slightly every few years.

I think the advert for the "all new rover 100" had to be the biggest joke of all time, it was practically still the same old mini Metro with a few new engined and a body facelift.

My family have owned very few BL/rover cars. The ones we did have were not anything outstanding and I'm pretty sure they all broke down with some badly engineered problem - Montego gear linkage springs to mind for a start. My sisters Morris Minor was always breaking down on her and was promptly changed for a Renault 6 (which was super reliable).

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - mss1tw
I think the advert for the "all new rover 100" had to be the biggest joke of all time, it was practically still the same old mini Metro with a few new engined and a body facelift

That makes me realise I can't even remember when I last saw a Metro, and it wasn't even one of those cars I was aware of disappearing like, say, the Nova.

Rover - MG-Rover's Longbridge plant, 10 years on - RaineMan

Those intersted in Rover's history might find this of interest if they missed it first time around:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV-9dVb7keM

I ran an elderly P5 Coupe for some years. Probably one of the best cars I have owned. Thirsty but quite reliable.

Edited by RaineMan on 16/10/2016 at 20:29