Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - Energyman

Vehicle developed a transmission noise initially assumed to be rear diff, as this is a known issue until 2011

Since turned out it is the transfer box which needs replacing at 64000 miles.

Am i expecting too much that this component, fundamental to 4 x 4 vehicles of which Land Rover have made a few over the years, should last longer than this?

Has not been abused mostly urban use.

Land rover are not interested in any contribution, seems the component is from the Volvo bin of parts as it is made in Sweden.

Have also just repaced n/s rear wheel bearing, something else that seems to be a common failure

Had extended warranty which ran out last october, and fully dealer serviced until the last service as we dispared at the service we received.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - RT

The Freelander 2 4wd system is by Haldex, that's the Swedish connection, although Volvo also use it for the XC70 which shares its Ford EUCD platform with the Freelander 2.

As the original warranty has long since expired, now the extended one as well and LR have turned down a request for contribution I guess you bneed to bite the bullet.

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - Energyman

I appreciate that, just a general view that should the component last longer than this mileage? especially on this type of vehicle built by a specialist manafacturer.

The last conversation with customer service today was interesting, the agent didnt even know what a transfer box was, or that it even existed. Certainly didnt know what it did!

Still he wished me a good day and hoped my experience with LR had been a good one!

I was biting the bullet as i banged my head on the brick wall!!

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - gordonbennet

Sorry to say that the marque involved having expensive failures way before they should be expected isn't going to surprise anyone here.

Just had a read of the good/bad section in HJ's reviews above, grim reading, it appears the rear diffs fail quite regularly so do you have faith in the diagnosis being correct? assuming the car is going to get no goodwill i'd be finding a good LR indy from one of the LR forums to fix it.

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - sandy56

I regard all LR vehicles old and new as mobile money pits just waiting for the unwary.

A major component like this should last much longer unless it has been abused. I guess thats why you dont see LR in Arica anymore, they learned thier lesson!

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - Energyman
Thanks for responses, I initially went to one local Indy we used to use who thought the noise was possibly the front wheel bearings, but may not be and wanted £60 for their trouble.
Found another Indy who were excellent gave us all the info about the rear diff technical notice, and suggested going back to main dealer to get rectified, dealer had it for 2 days swear blind it is not the diff but the transfer box. Anyway booked in next week to be done with them, as they insist this will fix it. Will keep you posted. Think this will be the last LR. So what instead?
Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - NARU
Think this will be the last LR. So what instead?

Depending on your needs there are some good candidates out there.

Kia Sorento mk3 (2015 onwards) - much plusher than previous versions. Auto is a traditional torque convertor. Their push for quality which started some time ago is starting to pay dividends (see www.jdpower.com/microsites/kia/home) , and also their hiring a chief designer who was behind the original Audi TT. www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/kia/sorento-2015/ . It comes with a 7 year warranty (or 100,000 miles - whichever is first)

FOr a real 4x4 experience, more hardcore - The latest Mitsubishi L200 is getting a lot of praise.

For those who prefer a prestige badge - BMW x3 or Audi Q5? If you could manage with a smallish estate car, the BMW 335d xdrive is a lovely place to be, and almost supercar quick.

Edited by Marlot on 08/07/2016 at 06:44

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - barney100

Car companies don't want to know in my experience. Mercedes wouldn't on up to a fault only car even though I had loads of examples of it. You don't need a bullet but a magazine full to bite on.

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - nick62

You need to have a word with Austen who runs this fantastic Indie:

www.bellengineering.co.uk/

He does nothing but Freelanders & Evoques.

My only connection is that he repaired our Evoque for a grand total of £420. The local JLR dealer wanted a minimum £1,100 for the same job and wouldn't guarantee the work unless I also paid and additional "diagnosis fee"!!!

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - slkfanboy

Vehicle developed a transmission noise initially assumed to be rear diff, as this is a known issue until 2011

Since turned out it is the transfer box which needs replacing at 64000 miles.

Am i expecting too much that this component, fundamental to 4 x 4 vehicles of which Land Rover have made a few over the years, should last longer than this?

Has not been abused mostly urban use.

Land rover are not interested in any contribution, seems the component is from the Volvo bin of parts as it is made in Sweden.

Have also just repaced n/s rear wheel bearing, something else that seems to be a common failure

Had extended warranty which ran out last october, and fully dealer serviced until the last service as we dispared at the service we received.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

urban use is abuse. These car are meant of off road and constant urban use is very stressful for the 4x4 systems

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - RT
urban use is abuse. These car are meant of off road and constant urban use is very stressful for the 4x4 systems

No it isn't - under normal road conditions, the Freelander 2 Haldex system operates at 100:00 front:rear, ie FWD with rear disconnected. That's how almost all soft-roaders part-time/smart 4WD work - the Subarus being an exception as they default to 90:10 front:rear.

The Freelander 2 4WD electronics engage the rear when starting from stationary but then disconnect under normal conditions.

Freelander 2 isn't like a Defender or Series LR when it comes to 4WD.

Edited by RT on 08/07/2016 at 10:50

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - slkfanboy
urban use is abuse. These car are meant of off road and constant urban use is very stressful for the 4x4 systems

No it isn't - under normal road conditions, the Freelander 2 Haldex system operates at 100:00 front:rear, ie FWD with rear disconnected. That's how almost all soft-roaders part-time/smart 4WD work - the Subarus being an exception as they default to 90:10 front:rear.

The Freelander 2 4WD electronics engage the rear when starting from stationary but then disconnect under normal conditions.

Freelander 2 isn't like a Defender or Series LR when it comes to 4WD.

I was thinking 0f the 2006-2009 models with the Haldex III and the viscous unit which is situated between the propshafts and cause windup as they slowly start to failed

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - Steveieb

Heard from my neighbour who is Australian and owns a Discovery and Range Rover that back in Austraila, those who are planning a serious trip into the outback have th engines changed to an Isusu.

But that seems to address only a part of the trouble.

I can't understand that the love of the brand overides any owners concerns about the dire reliability of this brand.

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - Metropolis.

I own a land rover discovery 2 TD5. Very reliable vehicle, 17 years old now and apart from a recent issue with the clutch slave cylinder, nothing but routine maintenence. Changed the battery when it was 15 years old, changed the bags for the air suspension when they were 16 years old. All depends what day of the week it was made on I suppose! Never let me down.

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - Energyman
The freelander was bought in a bit of a hurry to replace our disco which was stolen. it was in a different league mechanically, although not as refined driving wise.
The freelander certainly seems to be just built from a box of ford and Volvo bits, then they crossed their fingers.
Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - RT
The freelander was bought in a bit of a hurry to replace our disco which was stolen. it was in a different league mechanically, although not as refined driving wise. The freelander certainly seems to be just built from a box of ford and Volvo bits, then they crossed their fingers.

The Freelander 2 is effectively a Ford model, having transferred many Ford engineers into LR as part of Ford's abandonment of the UK for vehicle production and development, and uses Ford technology throughout - any connection with Volvo being co-incidental as they also use much Ford technology.

As a Ford, the Freelander 2 is a good model - and much better than LR's previous attempt as part of Rover Group.

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - gordonbennet

I own a land rover discovery 2 TD5. Very reliable vehicle, 17 years old now and apart from a recent issue with the clutch slave cylinder, nothing but routine maintenence. Never let me down.

And that's what too many people don't do, good routine comprehensive servicing, by the time most cars are reaching some expensive items (or inexpensive but mucky DIY stuff), like brake lubing, brake fluid changing, transmission oil and coolant changing, the car is often on its second or third owner who can't really afford a car of that type, can't be bothered or incapable of DIYing it, so before you know it on vehicles like this you've got dry swivels or CV's, rusty hardy spicers and a gearbox and transfer box and two diffs on oil that is actually overdue for its second change.

Toyota's bigger 4x4's don't tend to suffer these problems (can't comment on Rav4, know nothing about them), and i put this down not just to attention to OE component quality but to Toyota's very sensible service regimes, transmission oils will have been changed at least once and probably twice during the warranty period as will brake fluid and a Toyota major service includes brake strip clean lube, all for very reasonable costs.

Daresay if LR service regimes copied Toyota you'd see a different reputation for the formers durability in very short order.

Whatever the failure is of the OP's car, i'd wager if it had Toyota type servicing during its life, half these problems wouldn't occur.

Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - Energyman
It would seem the main issue with transfer box and rear diff is the bearings, this vehicle has been fully serviced by main dealer except the last by an Indy who only uses OE parts where needed eg filters etc. Interesting the near side rear wheel bearing also failed (roundabouts?) and seems to be a general issue, I could feel it was hotter than the other 3 wheels so had it changed.
Car in on Tuesday for new box so will report back if that fixed it!!
Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 Diesel - Transfer box - Energyman
New box fitted today, a bit of a result as the dealer quoted without labour in error, I did query it twice by email and they confirmed cost so have stuck to it. Good on them. I queried as Indy quoted £300 more.
Also assured box was brand new before going ahead but there was a £250 surcharge on the box, so it's a refurb then!
Main noise gone, still possible slight noise but that could be paranoia!
Land Rover Freelander 2 Sports Ltd Edition 2012 Diesel - Transfer box - Glenn Heran

My 2012 Freelander Sports Ltd bought new has done only 70,000 kms and the transfer box is failing. No external leaks but is probably dry as it only holds 150ml of oil.

Going to cost me around AUD$4,700 to repair with a recon unit or $5700 for the new unit. Or I can get one from the wreckers for $1385.I love my Freelander and love driving it but 70,000 kms is not a good testimony to the brand. What a bitza the Freelander has turned out to be and a shame Land Rover have put their badges on them. And shame on them for not backing up their product.

I'm sure it wold cost me a lot less if I was living in Europe of course.

Glenn

Land Rover Freelander 2 Sports Ltd Edition 2012 Diesel - Transfer box - galileo

My 2012 Freelander Sports Ltd bought new has done only 70,000 kms and the transfer box is failing. No external leaks but is probably dry as it only holds 150ml of oil.

Going to cost me around AUD$4,700 to repair with a recon unit or $5700 for the new unit. Or I can get one from the wreckers for $1385.I love my Freelander and love driving it but 70,000 kms is not a good testimony to the brand. What a bitza the Freelander has turned out to be and a shame Land Rover have put their badges on them. And shame on them for not backing up their product.

I'm sure it wold cost me a lot less if I was living in Europe of course

Sympathy for your problem, wouldn't be much cheaper here in UK. I don't suppose you read John Cadogan's opinions on LandRovers before buying?

Land Rover Freelander 2 Sports Ltd Edition 2012 Diesel - Transfer box - gordonbennet

Relative opted for a FL2 replacement, Discovery Sport, which carries on the tradition by returning to the dealership regularly for numerous repairs.

Heard my boss talking about sticking rear brakes/EPB issues on his company Ewok recently too, and not it's first visit back for the same cause.

I sincerely hope LR haven't tried to be too clever and put too much unreliable electrickery on the new Defender, though doubtful it will be a sales flop, the badge alone will sell thousands no matter how it proves.

Land Rover Freelander 2 Sports Ltd Edition 2012 Diesel - Transfer box - SLO76

Relative opted for a FL2 replacement, Discovery Sport, which carries on the tradition by returning to the dealership regularly for numerous repairs.

Heard my boss talking about sticking rear brakes/EPB issues on his company Ewok recently too, and not it's first visit back for the same cause.

I sincerely hope LR haven't tried to be too clever and put too much unreliable electrickery on the new Defender, though doubtful it will be a sales flop, the badge alone will sell thousands no matter how it proves.

Good friends parents had a second gen Freelander which was surprisingly reliable but they replaced it with a Discovery Sport which has been a real boomerang car, always returns to the dealers ramps.
Land Rover Freelander 2 Sports Ltd Edition 2012 Diesel - Transfer box - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

An acquaintance was going to look at a Land Rover Freelander. No no no. Told him it would be a money pit.

He bought another Kia Sorrento within budget and is very happy with it.

Land Rover Freelander 2 Sports Ltd Edition 2012 Diesel - Transfer box - DavidGlos
On the other hand, we ran a 2007 FL2 for over 70,000 miles. In that time, it had one set of replacement tyres and one bulb. Nothing else. Still on the original discs and pads when sold and no breakdowns.
Land Rover Freelander 2 Sports Ltd Edition 2012 Diesel - Transfer box - Andy FL2 Sydney

Going to cost me around AUD$4,700 to repair with a recon unit or $5700 for the new unit. Or I can get one from the wreckers for $1385.I love my Freelander and love driving it but 70,000 kms is not a good testimony to the brand. What a bitza the Freelander has turned out to be and a shame Land Rover have put their badges on them. And shame on them for not backing up their product.

Hi Glenn, my 2011 just gave me the same problem. Luckily I had reached 92,000 kms before the noise hit. A reconditioned part and labour cost me $3900 ex Gst. A b***** on a car that’s only worth $12K. But I like driving it. If I keep it for the long run I make sure the transfer case is piled up every year.