All - Spray lubricants - Venn

You will have noticed that most garages now use an aerosol spray lubricant for hinges, and bonnet and tailgate locks. This is recognisable by the white foam deposit it leaves.

Less than 10% of the spray reaches the bearing surfaces with the remainder covering adjacent panels or even trim. It attracts dirt.

My observation is that this spray promotes corrosion on the metal surfaces it contacts with brown rust marks visible. This is based on a survey of over 20 vehicles belonging to fellow Ramblers and experience of a similar spray with Mountain Bikes.

Has anybody seen the same problems?

All - Spray lubricants - gordonbennet

Aerosol white grease i believe, the rust you see is the rust that comes from the hinge that needed lubricating, but wasn't...;)

Smoke and mirrors, customer thinks its been serviced and pay with gratitude, hinges and bonnet cables seize and break and theres some more work in the bag...jumbo wheeze what.

I doubt 10% of the muck makes it to the hinge pin.

All - Spray lubricants - unthrottled

These "better than oil" sprays are pushed quite heavily in bike shops. Think I'll stick with proper grease. Never had to re-grease a door hinge or throttle body assembly yet. I doubt the same can be said for the deoderant can offerings.

All - Spray lubricants - gordonbennet

It doesn't seem long ago that car hinges had greasing points.

Hmm, handbrake cables, ball joints, Hardy Spicers etc, all greasable.

Anyone else miss them?

All - Spray lubricants - Peter.N.

.. and king pins and bushes of course.

All - Spray lubricants - bathtub tom

The days of Castrol lubrication charts.

All - Spray lubricants - gordonbennet

Some of my lorries had chassis autolube systems, a centrally located container of heavy oil pumped at regular intervals via tiny bore pipes to all joints, spring hangers and king pins etc, brilliant system.....quick aside, one Sed Atki front spring had to be disconnected and fitted with grease nipples, too much oil was finding its way onto the spring leaves and a road shock like hitting a drain would set a bounce up that would only stop when speed was reduced down to about 20mph....truck tyre balancing in its infancy then.

My MB indy told me that some older MB cars were fitted with autolube.

Most recent vehicle i've owned with greasing points was my 07 Hilux, greasable Hardy Spicers and prop sliding joints, enjoyed doing that again.

PS...i hated king pins on cars.

Edited by gordonbennet on 04/10/2012 at 10:07

All - Spray lubricants - madf

It doesn't seem long ago that car hinges had greasing points.

Hmm, handbrake cables, ball joints, Hardy Spicers etc, all greasable.

Anyone else miss them?

None of my pre 1950 cars had thm..

I assume you are referring to cars manufactured pre WW1 when you were a nipper ? :-)

Luvax Bijur system of auto lubrication on my 1946 Rover 16. A real pia as the copper pipes were flattened by ham fisted mechanics or the lubrication valves blocked with dirt - so joints ran dry.. Mostlly converted to grease nipples.

Nothing like a modern nylon sealed joint...

All - Spray lubricants - 1litregolfeater

It doesn't seem long ago that car hinges had greasing points.

Hmm, handbrake cables, ball joints, Hardy Spicers etc, all greasable.

Anyone else miss them?

None of my pre 1950 cars had thm..

I assume you are referring to cars manufactured pre WW1 when you were a nipper ? :-)

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I remember Hardy Spicers, my Triumph 2000 had them. Or something similar anyway. All cars designed before 1967 were made to be maintainable, they had to be, because they were always breaking down and going rusty if you didn't keep on top of it.

Grease nipples and the activity they excited used to be a popular Sunday activity, sadly no more, they were deleted long ago., along with going to church and looking after old people. Modern designs are sealed, well-made and last the lifetime of the car. Which can be determind by the life of the suspension parts on a modern car, because you can't grease um.

You don't have the ability to grease the wear points in your car any more because it's cheaper to make a car without them.

So we're still rolling around in motors whose lifetime is set at the factory before you buy it, just like in the 60s when Ralph Nader and others were the first to criticise built-in obsolescence.

All - Spray lubricants - madf

So we're still rolling around in motors whose lifetime is set at the factory before you buy it, just like in the 60s when Ralph Nader and others were the first to criticise built-in obsolescence.

As there are lots of Corollas from the early 1990s around .. and the Mark1 Yaris (ended 2005) was second top in Autocar (?) 's recent list of top used car buys, Toyota must be doing something worng...

Many manufactureres can't even get their engines to last 10 years before a major component fails - see Ford 1.6 diesel engines on this forum.

Edited by madf on 06/10/2012 at 11:18

All - Spray lubricants - lordwoody

I miss horses and carts.

All - Spray lubricants - 1litregolfeater

We might be back there sooner than you think

All - Spray lubricants - gordonbennet

Last time i rode in a horse and cart was at my family's farm in Co Clare taking the full milk churns up to the creamery, that would have been 1962...oh and as the youngest boy i fetched the water from the spring.

All - Spray lubricants - TeeCee

I miss horses and carts.

Trouble there is that when your horse drops dead at the side of the road, you can't call the AA out to fix it....