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I have a Pug 406 hdi 110 w reg 2.0 and sometimes when im in 4th or 5 th i have a problem, all gear change really well and the bit is about midway whe lifting the clutch pedal however when i boot it on a couple of occasions it seems the clutch slipped or maybe it was my imagination for instance coming home from work today i was accelerating after having to slow down from a queue and the revs seemed to go up to 2100 then back down to 2000 rpm for literally 1-2 seconds the car has done 58k miles i cant tell if theres a problem or not as it literally only happens once or twic a week when warm and usually when accelerating after doing 80mph on the motorway all gears change properly and there is no crunching there is a slight judder but i think that could be to do with changing gear at too low revs.
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Your clutch is probably on the way out, especially if the biting point is quite high up the pedal travel. No adjustment is possible on these hydraulic clutches. You'll find it more susceptible to slipping as it wears even more over time. Start saving up for a couple of months!
Greg
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the bit is at about the halfway point i think where should it be on these cars, do you know how much it would cost to replace
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The bite on mine was at the very top of the pedal travel, in fact if you touched the pedal the clutch slipped. It was like that for 10k+ miles. I sold it at 100k. Around 50% of that mileage was motorway, so an easy life.
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Forgot to mention that I was told this was a "normal" bite point on these cars.
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£500 or £700 with flywheel
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Be wary of where you get your clutch changed(assuming your not going to do it yourself)some "clutch specialists"(tongue in cheek)will try to bill you for a new flywheel as well.
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This car might have a dual mass flywheel, in which case it should be changed when the clutch is changed. However, I would still want convincing the clutch was at fault here. The suggestion seems to be that it only does it when it's been on a long run - and that points a bit more to the hydraulic actuator to me. Still, that's not cheap either! Trouble is you might have to wait a while before it gets bad enough for a convincing diagnosis....
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RichardW
Is it illogical? It must be Citroen....
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Hmm sounds similar to my 3.0 V6. If I "abuse" the clutch it will slip for a while, maybe days, then it seems to recover.
It's been doing this for 20,000 miles now.
I was hoping it's the hydraulic actuator (easier to change) but am thinking maybe weak clutch cover springs.
The clutch seems very light but I haven't compared it with another
I'd normally attempt a clutch myself but dual mass flywheels etc etc? Filling me me with dread now!
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2.0 HDI 110 flywheel only needs changing if damaged.There will be a small amount of play allowable even when new.
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ok i came home from work today and no problems the clutch bites when its about halfway up not near the top though im not sure whether something else wasnt engaging before it has onl;y happened a couple of times and seems to bee when im belting down the a1 at 90 however today stuck at 60 and no problems there doesnt seem to be any slip when i have the handbrak on and seems to bite pretty well, i am very paranoid though as to why this has happened. could the torque of it being a diesel be a contributing factor.
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Have you lost any clutch fluid recently. The slave cylinders on the HDI engines are prone to leaking (just changed mine on my Synergie HDI 110 - cost £20.00). The fluid can quite easily get to the clutch plates which would then cause slipping until it is burnt off.
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Ok well second time lucky i have put something on here before a month or 2 back {added to your original question as it relates to the same problem - DD} about a clutch slip problem i had. When driving along at say 55mph i accelerate to 60mph my rev sometimes and i mean only sometimes not all the time mainly when the engines hot jump from 2000rpm to 2200rpm. My bite point on the clutch seems fine. Spoke to mr clutch he says 406 hdi bite points are slightly higher than most and said there isnt a problem as it isnt slipping in any other gear. Spoke to another garage they said i may need to renew the hydraulic fluid or something. The car has only done 59k and am very wary of needlessly replacing parts. i travel 60 miles a day and may do it once a week or once a fortnight. but i am now starting to get really frustrated with it. can anyone advise me
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hi guys. Got a 406 HDi 110 2 ltr. My car seems to struggle to pull away in 1st and 2nd gear but is fine once gets going? Someone has suggested cluth too and am dreading forking out £500 for new clutch.
Any way of testing to see if it really is the clutch.
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My blessed 406 has the XUD engine and has (knock on wood) 147,000 miles on the same clutch. 18 months or so ago, I gave it the full service, oil, air, fuel and pollen filters etc. After that, to my annoyance, the clutch slipped gloriously at about 2500 rpm when at full throttle. Oh heck thinks me, that's this car done for and I've just serviced the darn thing. Anyhow after a few hundred worried miles, the slipping stopped and has not come back.
I then remembered that, when I was changing the fuel filter, I was sloppy and spilled some diesel about when I took the old filter out. On the XUD, there's a wee opening on the top of the clutch casing. I now realise that's where some of the diesel went and that I had caused the slipping myself.
I am now more careful. I don't know if this helps, but I'd look for anything that could have leaked onto the clutch recently.
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It's worth bleeding the system and filling with new hydraulic fluid, this should firm up the clutch and is the cheapest option. Fluid tends to get hot on a long run especially on very fast runs of the type you are doing which tends to show the problem more readily.
If that doesn't cure the problem then the garage will probably need to have a look inside to locate the problem.
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