The French have a track record of selling stuff to hostile regimes,

Don't we do that sort of thing ? Most governments with a negative balance of payments will be glad of something big on the plus side of the ledger.

The French have a track record of selling stuff to hostile regimes, e.g. Exocet missiles to Argentina during the Falklands War.

Macron is an unprincipled hypocrite as well as hating the UK.

You do realse the UK sells to places like Saudi Arabia and even to Russia?

Why do you think he hates the UK? It's very unlikley he does.

The French have a track record of selling stuff to hostile regimes, e.g. Exocet missiles to Argentina during the Falklands War.

Macron is an unprincipled hypocrite as well as hating the UK.

I can't remember one senior French politician (i.e. PM or president) who wasn't, practive (some pretend to be nice but their actions spoke volumes)... Far more the elites than the ordinary citizen.

In my view, the problem the French (government) have had for a long time (more than a century) and has shown itself in their often nasty, petty attitude towards us and (to a lesser extent) the USA is that their politicians like to profess being ethical but mostly act in the opposite way.

Now fair do's that in many cases that's because they act solely for the benefit of France, but it's precisely because the British have often acted for the betterment of others to our detrimnent that their governing class appears to have a long-standing chip on their shoulder.

It's the hypocrisy I can't stand, pretending they are doing virtuous things on behalf of other nations/peoples but but at the same time (often) doing the opposite.

Edited by Engineer Andy on 13/09/2022 at 13:49

www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/macron-denies-france-viola...#

Now you know why Russias more up to date tanks destroyed in Ukraine were found to be full of French thermal imaging and night vision technology.

disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-...0

www.pona***urasia.org/gorenburg-russian-armata-tanks-using-french-technology/

2020...the EU sanctions were in place in 2014 following Russias aggression in Ukrainian Crimea

www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/4/kyiv-slams-macrons...a

Now we know why Macron has spoken against helping Ukraine and being supportive of Putin. He's hoping to get Russias rearmament business.

What's even more sickening is that some British, American and other Western countries technology has been recovered from Russian scrap Iron. I think there needs to be a formal UN investigation into this and I hope certain countries receive the appropriate consequences.

Probably sold before any of this kicked off. We sell arms to countries like Saudi Arabia which has a terrible human rights record, France sold Exocets to Argentina before the Falklands war. Everybody does it. I'm not saying it's right but literally every country with an armaments industry sells it to anyone who will buy it.

Indeed - whilst it can (IMHO) be often correctly argued that doing so (to sell [or give, in the case of Ukraine] to country A when they are in conflict with Country B), rarely does any politician of note or the public at large have any appetite for any (credible) political moves to both stop the cause of the problems in concert with stopping the ability of (both) parties to continue conflicts in various ways.

Often those who do often propose very simplistic 'solutions' that are in most cases beneficial to one side (often either those who share the proposer's ideological bent or against the other side who is against that) or doesn't in any way resolve the long term underyling issues that kicked things off.

Sadly too many people turn a blind eye, whether to seeling arms etc to nasty foreign powers or to resolving conflicts on a long term basis, because both mostly invlove a lot of hard work and personal, national and even economic sacrifice. Unfortunately, and often because of people / organicsations / governments with agenda, including the media, there often sounds like very little between military solutions and ones that aren't.