Legal to park a covered car on a road ? - Paul I
Friend of mine has a classic car which he is in the process of renovating, the car is on a Sorn and is kept covered on the drive. For the next two weeks his usual parking space is being occupied by Bricks and other various building materials whilst they have a Loft converted.

As the car has no engine in it, is it still a car (as technically it has no means of propulsion) it also will be kept covered - so can the police have the power to lift the cover the cover ? I have heard that a traffic warden can't or is this an urban myth. As the plates are also covered so I guess ANPR is useless ?

Paul

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Legal Point - Pugugly {P}
First of all he'd be committing an offence of obscuring a Registration Mark. Don't think that there is a need for Police to have a power to remove the cover. I would imagine that they may use investigative powers under PACE to have a peep under the covers, an imaginative Officer would say something along the lines of "I suspected it was a stolen vehicle under the cover - so I had a look using my S1 PACE 1984 powers."

There used to be a stated case of an untaxed motor on a road with no engine, but I'm jiggered if I can find it now.

The cops could view the SORN as an issue as well 'cos its not er...off road.

He's going need insurance and MoT as well as reflectors in my opinion.
Legal Point - Dalglish
There used to be a stated case of an untaxed motor on a road with no engine, but I'm
jiggered if I can find it now.


is this what you had in mind?

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=41927&...e
and/or
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=42730&...e

Legal Point - Ruperts Trooper
It would probably be legal if it's put on a trailer and the trailer parked on the road - as long as it's not causing an obstruction and it's lit at night.
Legal Point - Pugugly {P}
...no need for it to be lit as long as it has reflectors and parked in accordance witht eh RVLR.
Legal Point - Dwight Van Driver
Holliday v Henry [1974]

........A motor vehicle seperated from the road surface by roller skates is 'nevertheless' on a road. ????????

dvd
Legal Point - Dwight Van Driver
Newberry v Simmons [1961] PU

..held that a motor car from which the engine had been removed did not thereby cease to be a mechanically propelled vehicle if the evidence admitted the possibility
that the engine might be rteplaced and motive power restored.

Irrespective of the 'cover' then if the SORN vehicle is placed on the road it will require Excise, Insurance and MOT and comply with all Con and Use regs. Plus the fact the LA do not like objects 'dumped' on roads.

dvd
Legal Point - Cliff Pope
I think that's the nub of the matter. If it's a car, it must comply with car rules. If it's not a car, then it's a lump of metal dumped on the road and probably an obstruction to cars that do have a right to use the road.

He could put in one of those cage things that car restorers use, and roll it into the road. Upside down it might not be a "car". But still an obstruction of course.
Legal Point - Ruperts Trooper
PU - a car on a trailer isn't a car, it's a laden trailer - which has to be lit at night - the concession to park without lights in a lit 30mph zone doesn't extend to trailers, or skips!
Legal Point - adverse camber
If its a classic isnt it tax exempt ?
Legal Point - Pugugly {P}
VEL and Finance Act says it still needs a Tax Disc and a requirement to display. DVLA can still be quite nasty about that class of car.
Legal Point - local yokel
To get a no cost VED disc you need to present the MoT and insurance docs, which he won't have by the sound of things, unless it's still got a valid MoT, despite being in bits.
Legal Point - KenC
Surley its easier to do it right rather than keep looking for "ways round it"

TAX it park it no problem, assuming of course that the car is insured and mot,d.

If not rent a place to store it, easy !
Legal Point - bell boy
i havent read in the original post that paul1 " s mate actually wants to put the car on the street,i think he is quoting from an old v890 where you had to put actually where the sorned car was ,this has changed now,partly due to my petitioning of the dvla,i think he is frightened that he may be commiting an offence by hiding the car
paul1 your mate is wel in order to keep the car on the garden and keep it covered,do NOT put it anywhere near the road mind.
Legal Point - SlidingPillar
Country, or near country areas you can usually find an obliging local landowner. I stored a car for nearly a month (cost 2 bottles of wine) and another part of the country a trailer for a week. Both events were however related to a vintage car and if your friend can arouse interest, he may find it easier to find somewhere.

Locally - if I'm away, I've allowed folk to use my drive.

The bit about mechanically propelled vehicles though is interesting. I think there was a case where a motorbike towed another and the towed bike was held not to be mechanically propelled as the chain had been removed. Unfortunately I can remember no other details.
Legal Point - Paul I
Thanks Guys,

My friend hadn't thought about this as he is to busy with eveything else, the builders arrive on monday and he is stuck, problem is my driveway is on quite a slope and we could easily tow it here (400 Yards) however extracting the car (which I can't identify - nothing usual just don't know what it is ) would be a real probelem for a fwd altea. Oh well 24hrs to make a decision - luckily not mine

Paul