>>to go into Leeds town centre, day or night>>
Didn't matter what you took - it's a city centre...:-)
There's some great shopping in Leeds and the Tetley brewery exhibition is worth a visit on its own.
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Before dying last year at the ripe old age of 32, my little sister spent the last few years of her life in a wheelchair, not only that but the steroids that she was taking made her so bloated that just getting her out of the car was an exhausting task. These spaces aren?t like mother and baby - they?re essential, they have to be close and they have to be wide. I?ve had more nose-to-noses with selfish, arrogant, able bodied idiots than I care to remember, but nothing less than a clamp will have any effect whatsoever. If you?re the kind of person who thinks that stealing these paces is ok than I wish you every luck in finding the disease or injury that comes with the parking privilage.
I find it reassuring that even in Poland, where there are no parking restrictions to speak of, they have started clamping abusers in my local shopping centre. Now if they?d just follow this up with a swift beating with a long 4 by 2 I?d call that progress.
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Sorry to hear that about your sister, Dave.
I read something recently by a senior police officer who said that 90% of the people they apprehend for illegally using disabled parking bays are found to have criminal records. It rarely just a case of someone being a bit thoughless on the odd occassion, but mostly those who have disregard for any laws at all and think they can do as they please.
Something to beware of if you are ever tempted to admonish anyone you see doing this, there is a good chance you will be confronting a violent psycho.
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I´d need drugs to go into Leeds town centre, day or night.
It's not that bad!
Related to the topic of people who park in disabled bays for purely selfish reasons, the easiest thing to do is wait until no-one's looking and have a "mishap" with your trolley and their car....
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You dont need to be parked where you shouldnt to get that treatment!
Fullchat
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When I meant mishap I meant trolley loaded to the brim, a good running start and a following wind, and some reckless abandonment- ah, wait, I see what you mean...
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Re the first two posts on this thread, I would have had no objection whatsoever to phoning the police and reporting them. Did the relevant posters? If not, why not?
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Is there any difference in private carparks and public car parks? (with regard to the enforcement/issuing of tickets/police involvement etc)
by public i mean those with ticket machines and wardens wandering about occasionally
by private i mean those car parks that are found in out of town supermarkets etc (where you dont need to by a ticket to park - and because of this there is no traffic wardens looking for those without tickets)
it seems to me that supermarkets dont bother with checking accessible bays (a disabled bay is one thats out of action/use ;-)) as they want the custom so dont want to upset the geniuses who park there with no thought for others
So do the police or traffic wardens have powers to ticket/tow people parked where they shouldnt - my guess is they dont but im not a good guesser
And do they have powers over parent and child bays?
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Re the first two posts on this thread, I would have had no objection whatsoever to phoning the police and reporting them. Did the relevant posters? If not, why not?
Probably because the police would not be interested.
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My experience is that the police won't turn out to a £5,000+ burglary with evidence all over the point of forced entry so they probably won't turn out for a disbaled parking bay offence. On second thoughts, they probably would! An easy conviction with minimal work and a 'crime' cleared up with minimal work looks got on their 'targets' - sorry 'performance indicators! On a side issue, 14 police officers sent to the Cenotaph to arrest a woman reading out the names of war dead from Iraq conflict. There's a well thought thru use of assets!
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In my experience, police would come out if you phoned and told them an untaxed car was being driven usafely with unrestrained kids sitting in it. Also, possibility of sriving under influence of drugs , think they may be interested in that as well.
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I´d need drugs to go into Leeds town centre, day or night.
If you said Bradford I would agree,Leeds isn't too bad at all.
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I am constanly moaning at the reception desk of my health club in North Manchester about people parking in the disabled bays. They are usually one of two different types of people: -
1. Yobs (I have managed to get two ejected from the club permanently following altercations which included major use of foul language in front of children and ladies, by the offending party); and
2. Wealthy nouveau riches in BMWs and Range Rovers (and only them). Regretfully nothing is done about them depsite the whiff of drug dealer about them.
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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2. Wealthy nouveau riches in BMWs and Range Rovers (and only them). Regretfully nothing is done about them depsite the whiff of drug dealer about them. -- Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
They are often the sort that park across two ordinary parking spaces, to avoid their precious cars being damaged.
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I used to work at a DIY companies head office, and whilst I was there, one of the directors had the idea of placing bright orange stickers on to the windscreen of people who were wrongly parked in disabled spaces. They used good thick paper, and even better good strong glue - and then duly issued out these reminders.
The directors view was that if the person was happy to park in a disabled persons space, then surely they wouldn't mind having the use of their car disabled whilst they cleared it off (probably having to buy something from the shop to remove it!)
Unfortunately, the law didn't agree with this policy and soon had to be stopped due to them being taken to court by someone for criminal damage. Not sure what the outcome of the court case was, but I do know that they had to stop the issuing of stickers!
I for one fully support the issuing of such tickets.
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I spoke to someone at Tesco, they say there is nothing they can do apart from make an announcement over the PA system.
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just going back to the leeds car park and the druggies i parked my car at the back of munro house about 6 years ago and two lads came walking down the street putting car windows through and riffling through the vehicles,i phoned the police and they put me through to milgarth police station which you can see as its 300 yds away i gave them a running commentry and full description as they didnt have a policeman available to investigate,so if they didnt have the manpower in leeds city centre what chance with seeing to two stupid druggies,i am not running the police down here by the way they do a tough job in my opinion.
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It´s not too bad I s´pose. But last time I was there (Leeds) I ended up in casualty with 6 stitches in a head wound having been attacked and bottled in a pub - unprovoked attack I might add. NHS did a great job BTW.
But of more relevance, I´m pretty ashamed to say that recently I waited in the car in a disabled bay whilst (pregnant) wife nipped into the post office. 5 mins. Obviously if a car with badges had wanted the space I´d have moved, noone came.
I was seen and reported, ?15 fine came through the post a couple of weeks later. Lesson learnt.
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Glad some where is doing something! Amazing how many 'disabled' people when it is raining or on a Sunday afternoon. A few years ago a oung lady in a sports car nipped into a bay ahead of us in Southampton General Hospital and leapt out - when husband challenged her she said "Quite enough is done for the disabled" and marched off. We hope she was not in a hurry cos he parked behind her and informed Security of what he had done and where we would be for a few hours.
Just so you know, a registered disabled person will have a disabled tax disc as well as a blue badge.
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I remember watching this stupid TV program years ago where they film real life and play pranks on people.
Anyway - this girl in a (then brand new shape) Mini rolls up to this place and parks right by the door in an empty carpark n a disabled space. She saunters in and then the TV people roll into action. They place what looked like 50 wheelchairs all around her car blocking her in.
Justice.
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Aww jeeez. Sorry for my horrendously insensitive (and completely accidental) pun.
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In France spaces for disabled people often have an official notice by them saying 'if you take my parking space take my handicap as well'.
The French are notorious for just abandoning instead of parking properly but in my experience these spaces almost invariably seem to be left clear for their proper use.
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Aww jeeez. Sorry for my horrendously insensitive (and completely accidental) pun.
Come again? I can't see anything wrong with what you wrote, but then I take pride in being refreshingly un-PC.
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Just so you know, a registered disabled person will have a disabled tax disc as well as a blue badge.
Not necessarily.
My late in laws had a blue badge and somehow were able to have the car exempt from VED (still had to get a disc). IIRC the VED was free because MiL received mobility portion of DLA. When she died, FiL had to revert car back to PLG and pay for VED.
My grandmother has a disabled badge, but grandad still pays for road tax (sorry, VED).
My wife's disabled badge is due shortly, we can use it in any car, but we won't get free VED.
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>> Just so you know, a registered disabled person will have a >> disabled tax disc as well as a blue badge. Not necessarily.
Quite. Both my parents have blue badges, but my dad still has to pay for his VED.
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If I take my Grandma to Morrissons, she can hardly walk, but likes to try and get out once a week for a change of scene. It wouldn't be fair to get a ticket in this situation. It is hardly worth getting a badge for and also the hoops they make you jump through are too high.
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It is hardly worth getting a badge for and also the hoops they make you jump through are too high.
Hoops? Apply to your local council. They'll send you the relevant paperwork. Fill it all out and send it off in the pre-addressed envelope. They in turn will contact your doctor to see if you have justification to warrant a blue badge. If you do, you'll get one.
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>> It is hardly worth getting a badge for and also the hoops they make you jump through are too high. Hoops? Apply to your local council. They'll send you the relevant paperwork. Fill it all out and send it off in the pre-addressed envelope. They in turn will contact your doctor to see if you have justification to warrant a blue badge. If you do, you'll get one.
Ditto. Quite easy to get one if you really do need it. Only hold up with getting my wife's was getting round to getting some passport photo's done, which is our problem.
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Only hold up with getting my wife's was getting round to getting some passport photo's done, which is our problem.
For info. They accepted the ones I did with a digital camera and printed onto photopaper. Just make sure they are passport sized photos.
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For info. They accepted the ones I did with a digital camera and printed onto photopaper. Just make sure they are passport sized photos.
Oh right, Ta!
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Sorry to confuse. If you are 'registered disabled' means you get the higher rate of mobility allowance, then your car is road tax free. If you are incapacitated and your doctor signs a form to say you need a blue badge, then you are not 'registered disabled'.
Incidentially, if you need any adaptation to your car, you then do not have to pay VAT on a new car.
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Sorry to confuse. If you are 'registered disabled' means you get the higher rate of mobility allowance, then your car is road tax free. If you are incapacitated and your doctor signs a form to say you need a blue badge, then you are not 'registered disabled'.
Ah i see what you mean.
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Reminds me of a recent visit to Tesco. While looking for a space I saw a Chrysler Voyager, lowerer, sports exhaust, blacked out windows parked diagonally across two disabled spaces. Selfish git I thought, and went on my way.
Inside the store I was almost mown down by a youngish bloke in a really fancy powered wheelchair as he gleefully tossed groceries to his very 'fit' girlfriend - he knows how to have fun thinks I.
Turns out he was the owner of the voyager - drove chair straight in through sliding door then roared off in a plume of wheelspin.
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naturally I agree with the sentiment of the previous posts. But I do find it incredibly frustrating when you see people throw a blue badge on the dashboard and then waltz out and up the road with no physical problems whatsoever. The blue badge system is so open to abuse, it's hardly surprising able-bodied people take no notice.
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No physical problems apparent, perhaps. To the casual onlooker, driver or passenger may look fully able, but there are many conditions that disable without involving loss of limbs! There is fraud and misuse. of course, which is extremely annoying, but to regulate this requires attendants/a helpline to their office. They're never there when you wish to denounce the untaxed, unbadged low-slung sports car, used by a body-builder.
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My wife has just called and she has been to Asda for her lunch today - three cars with tickets on.
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