Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Morag Cameron

I am looking to buy a cheap automatic and have put a small deposit on a Mazda 3. I'm begining to get cold feet though.

It orginally failed the Mot with this lot:

Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects):

Front Brake pad(s) less than 1.5 mm thick (1.1.13 (a) (ii))

Repair immediately (major defects):

Engine MIL inoperative or indicates a malfunction (8.2.1.2 (h))

Nearside Front Position lamp not working (4.2.1 (a) (ii))

Offside Rear Hydraulic brake calliper leaking (1.1.16 (b) (i))

Nearside Front Service brake excessively binding (1.2.1 (f))

Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):

Offside Front Lower Suspension arm pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i))

Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))

Nearside Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge BORDERLINE (5.2.3 (e))

rear axle/subframe heavily corroded

Nearside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive (5.3.6 (a) (i))

Offside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive (5.3.6 (a) (i))

It was re tested after a bit of work and passed leaving these advisories:

Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):

Nearside Front Upper Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint dust cover severely deteriorated (5.3.4 (b) (i))

Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):

Nearside Front Suspension arm pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i))

Offside Front Suspension arm pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i))

Nearside Rear Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive (5.3.6 (a) (i))

Offside Rear Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive (5.3.6 (a) (i))

Nearside Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

Rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive (5.3.6 (a) (i))

I really don't know whether to go a head and buy it. The rear axle/subframe heavily corroded worries me though it's not listed on the retest. He said he's done some work on it - about £500 worth. The breaks, the hand break and suspension brush pin is all he mentioned so I'm not sure what has been done. I'm totally clueless when it comes to cars and i'm now begining to get cold feet. It's being sold for £2,225. But i've got a bad feeling it's going to cost a lot more....

Ive currently got an old skoda 2003 fabia which I wonder if I shouldn't just fix it (emissions issues and engine light on) and stick with the devil I know. Its a nice cheap little run around. Which is all I need. Though my garage thinks I should ditch it. Finding a small, cheap atuomatic is proving to be difficult however.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - elekie&a/c doctor
A lot of borderline expensive repairs in the future. It may have just past the test with these corrosion advisories, but next year may the point of uneconomic repair . If it was £1200 , may be worth a punt . Sounds like your Skoda is In better shape .
Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - gordonbennet

Sounds like a typically neglected car to me.

These types of cars (bought at the right price) can be worth buying for people with mechanical knowledge who have the space and expertise to fix things themselves, a quick look underneath at the corrosion would tell you if some treatment now would give it another few years, the rest of the jobs are fairly straightforward.

If you have little knowledge of cars and can't do the work yourself then i'd be inclined to look elsewhere.

From your forum name are you based in Scotland? unfortunately cars that have lived in Scotland suffer worse than the rest of the country from salt corrosion damage, the fetish for road salt being more addictive the further north you go.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Morag Cameron

Sounds like a typically neglected car to me.

These types of cars (bought at the right price) can be worth buying for people with mechanical knowledge who have the space and expertise to fix things themselves, a quick look underneath at the corrosion would tell you if some treatment now would give it another few years, the rest of the jobs are fairly straightforward.

If you have little knowledge of cars and can't do the work yourself then i'd be inclined to look elsewhere.

From your forum name are you based in Scotland? unfortunately cars that have lived in Scotland suffer worse than the rest of the country from salt corrosion damage, the fetish for road salt being more addictive the further north you go.

Yeah :(

I really have no knowledge of cars at all, so even just looking it over i'm fairly clueless.

No, West Sussex. But I can imagine corrosion up North is a big issue.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - nellyjak

I'd walk away from that.

A world of pain awaits you I fear

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - corax

Keep your own car or look for something better. The Mazda has been totally neglected by previous owners. You don't want to suffer because of them.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - badbusdriver

I think you'd be better with your Fabia. The Mazda 3 is usually exceptionally reliable (with petrol engine anyway), but they can be a bit more susceptible to rust underneath than some. Also, there is only so much neglect the most reliable car can take before giving up the ghost!

If you say were you are in the country (and budget), I'd be happy to have a look on Autotrader for anything promising.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Adampr

That's a banger. If you want to buy something to drive around until it dies in a few months, it's OK, but avoid it if you intend to keep it for a year or more.

Unless you have a particular itch for something else, spend a few hundred getting the Fabia sorted and it will last you a lot longer.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Morag Cameron

That's a banger. If you want to buy something to drive around until it dies in a few months, it's OK, but avoid it if you intend to keep it for a year or more.

Unless you have a particular itch for something else, spend a few hundred getting the Fabia sorted and it will last you a lot longer.

Thanks.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Morag Cameron

I think you'd be better with your Fabia. The Mazda 3 is usually exceptionally reliable (with petrol engine anyway), but they can be a bit more susceptible to rust underneath than some. Also, there is only so much neglect the most reliable car can take before giving up the ghost!

If you say were you are in the country (and budget), I'd be happy to have a look on Autotrader for anything promising.

Thanks. I think I will stick with my Fabia. Or atleast see how much it will cost to repair.

I'm in West Sussex, looking for a automatic (not semi auto) hatchback for 3 - 4 grand max. Although I might just focus on keeping the Fabia on the road tbh. As long as it's not something too major.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Adampr

I think you'd be better with your Fabia. The Mazda 3 is usually exceptionally reliable (with petrol engine anyway), but they can be a bit more susceptible to rust underneath than some. Also, there is only so much neglect the most reliable car can take before giving up the ghost!

If you say were you are in the country (and budget), I'd be happy to have a look on Autotrader for anything promising.

Thanks. I think I will stick with my Fabia. Or atleast see how much it will cost to repair.

I'm in West Sussex, looking for a automatic (not semi auto) hatchback for 3 - 4 grand max. Although I might just focus on keeping the Fabia on the road tbh. As long as it's not something too major.

If you have a drive and you don't do long journeys, maybe consider a Nissan Leaf.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Engineer Andy

I think you'd be better with your Fabia. The Mazda 3 is usually exceptionally reliable (with petrol engine anyway), but they can be a bit more susceptible to rust underneath than some. Also, there is only so much neglect the most reliable car can take before giving up the ghost!

If you say were you are in the country (and budget), I'd be happy to have a look on Autotrader for anything promising.

Thanks. I think I will stick with my Fabia. Or atleast see how much it will cost to repair.

I'm in West Sussex, looking for a automatic (not semi auto) hatchback for 3 - 4 grand max. Although I might just focus on keeping the Fabia on the road tbh. As long as it's not something too major.

Unfortunately for you, such cars of the size (and smaller) you're looking for - especially avoiding 'dual clutch' autos (wise given the clutch packs in them can fail just as much as in a manual car) - are in high demand at the moment, even in the current times with many people not wanting or being able to afford electric cars or new / nearly new (and complex) petrol / diesel ones.

That does mean what used to cost £3k or so back in 2019 may well now cost twice as much because demand is so much higher, meaning many people are looking at quite old cars - approaching 20 years old that have been part exchanged for something a few years newer, sometimes because they know the car was mistreated or just about to expire for one reason or the other.

Probably best to keep your current car (as you know it best and any 'issues' it has) for the moment, and just keep an eye out for replacements, either coming back here for suggestions or advice, or see if you can find a friend or relative you can trust who knows a reasonable amount about cars to help you, especially when viewing them, as many second hand dealers will be licking their lips if you admit to being 'clueless', because they think they can sell you a pup.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Engineer Andy

I think you'd be better with your Fabia. The Mazda 3 is usually exceptionally reliable (with petrol engine anyway), but they can be a bit more susceptible to rust underneath than some. Also, there is only so much neglect the most reliable car can take before giving up the ghost!

If you say were you are in the country (and budget), I'd be happy to have a look on Autotrader for anything promising.

Indeed - even though the car is the facelifted mk1 car (from 04/2006 - 2009), the improvements were on the suspension for mainly a better ride and a bit of handling improvements.

Mk1s are generally more susceptible to rusting, though as others have said, where the car has spent its life make the most difference along with how it's been looked after, which this one seemingly hasn't been.

My 2005 built car has started to get rust on the wheel arches, but nothing (yet) major underneath, but then I live in relatively dry and warm Hertfordshire. Following generations of the model (now up to 4) faired a lot better in this regard, with little issues for the mk3 and likely the 4th gen model as it ages.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Morag Cameron

I'd walk away from that.

A world of pain awaits you I fear

Yeah. I think i've conceeded it's not a good buy. It helps getting other peoples opinions though. Thanks.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Morag Cameron

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Edited by Morag Cameron on 30/04/2025 at 20:28

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - Morag Cameron
A lot of borderline expensive repairs in the future. It may have just past the test with these corrosion advisories, but next year may the point of uneconomic repair . If it was £1200 , may be worth a punt . Sounds like your Skoda is In better shape .

Thanks. I think your probably right.

Mazda 3 Takara 2008 - Mot advisories on car I want to buy - John F

What hasn't been mentioned (probably because most are too polite to do so) is that when you enter the garage you are possibly displaying two factors that are a major contributor to its prosperity. The first is that I guess you might probably be defined as a woman. The second, often associated with the first, is that your admission of 'totally clueless' (which I hope you didn't mention to the mechanic) suggests you know little about the construction and acceptable wear and tear of car components.

Unless they are made of aluminium, cars of this age will always appear 'neglected' underneath even if they have had regular garage 'services'. However, if at the MoT there are signs that the wheels have been off, the corrosion has been addressed and a bit of a clean and some silicon (not oily) spray around the suspension joints has been applied, the tester might mention fewer 'advisories' which are are a wonderful source of income from anxious ignorant motorists. I would be interested to know what the £500 has paid for.

Edited by John F on 01/05/2025 at 08:48