All makes - Fold up cycles - Steveieb
Realised that taking bikes on a carrier for a trip out or a weekend away just isn't working.
Firstly with no tow bar it means fiddling with straps etc and anxious moments looking in the rear view mirror to see if a Raleigh Tourer has been dropped in the carriageway. Then finding a safe place to store the bike at the hotel.

Researching what bikes are available the Brompton seems to be the preferred choice. But at close on £1000 each I wonder if this is a Morgan effect.

Made one mistake buying a Daiwoo with small wheels but could anyone recommend an alernative with larger wheels say 18 to 20 inch ?
All makes - Fold up cycles - badbusdriver

The problem here is that with bicycles, possibly more than most things, the old saying, 'you get wat you pay for', very much applies here. Yes you can get cheap folding bikes, but they are not neccessarily going to be very great. And the absolute priority with folders is that you get a decent hinging mechanism. The thought of it failing whilst you are riding, should make you think hard about going for a budget option!.

You don't say what you want to spend, but this time of year is going to be about the best for seeking out bargains. Best bet to start with is to go on the website of some large online bike retailers such as evans cycles or wiggle to look up customer reviews of folding bikes. You are right about brompton, they are very expensive. But they are very well designed and have a bit of a cult following. But other marques like dahon or tern are definately worth a look, as is montague, who seem to specialise in folding bikes with full size wheels. Once you have decided what you like the look of, then simply do an online search to see who sells them for the best price. Alternatively, some people like the personal touch, and want to deal with a bike shop which can set the bike up and deal directly with any issues which may occur. This of course, requires you to have a decent bike shop near you, as opposed to the one most likely to be near you (no names mentioned, but i think we all know who i refer to!)

Here are a couple of options from tredz

www.tredz.co.uk/.Giant-Halfway-2018-Folding-Bike_1...m

www.tredz.co.uk/.Dahon-Mu-Uno-20w-2017-Folding-Bik...m

www.tredz.co.uk/.Montague-Crosstown-2018-Folding-B...m

www.tredz.co.uk/.Tern-Node-D8-24w-2017-Folding-Bik...m

All makes - Fold up cycles - Manatee

If you want to carry full size bikes on a car use roof carriers.

The Brompton is the best at folding, and not a bad ride. It's not that light. I've a 6 speed with the P bar.

If you are thinking Brompton then have a proper test. I hired one from the bike shop in Warwick for a couple of days.

All makes - Fold up cycles - Steveieb

Thanks for all your help.

Good idea to try one before buying. Is the balance better on a bike with larger ie 20 inch wheels?

All makes - Fold up cycles - Bromptonaut

You mention using the bike while away but what are you actually intending to do with the bike in terms of riding?

The Brompton is in it's niche as a commuter bike on metalled roads. It does that really well, it's nippy and manouverable and provided you go for 6 gears you'll never be stuck for a useable ratio. Provided you can lock it securely then you'll be fine for city sightseeing etc. People do rides like London Brighton on them and even the 100 mile Ride London event. There's a Facebook group called London Brompton Club and you'll see people there who tour UK and abroad with them.

They're OK on Sustrans type paths but anything rougher and (a) you won't be comfortable on it and it will feel unsafe (b) you're likely to damage it.

I've had 2 over last 18 years. First was a 5 speed using the Sturmey Sprinter hub gear. In modern parlance it would be an M5L. After 10 years I replaced it with an M6R; a great improvement. M bars were fine for commuting but now I'm out of that and using it more for longer leisure rides I wish I'd got P type to offer more alternative riding positions and might yet buy a conversion kit. As Manatee says they're quite heavy but the fold is so quick and easy I used to push it around stations and only fold at the train door.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 24/12/2017 at 17:29

All makes - Fold up cycles - Alby Back
Well, it does depend a bit on what you're going to be using the bikes for. A small wheeled folder is fine for short rides on a smooth surface, but if you're going to venture further afield, then a larger wheeled bike is going to be more comfortable, and yes, more stable. If you are going even mildly off road, then a small wheeled bike will not be fun. If you are going seriously off road then they would be more or less dangerous. As Manatee suggests, you might be better to invest in decent roof mounted carriers. Good ones are very secure indeed and lock the bikes in place which means you can leave them securely overnight.

I've been using Thule roof mounts for years for exactly the purposes you describe. Most weekends sees them used and indeed most holidays. Wouldn't be without them.

Edited by Alby Back on 24/12/2017 at 17:28

All makes - Fold up cycles - Lrac

I have had a Dahon for years and I think it is excellent for the price. As previously mentioned when buying a folder, hindges are a known problem area especially if it has a "crackaminium" frame. This is the reason I would only buy a well known brand.

I once misjudged a kerb at a reasonable pace and smacked straight into it. I was surprised neither the forks nor the wheel were damaged.. I used to use a cycle lane that went the opposite way to the traffic so I can confirm it has also survived unscathed from impact with 3 suited business types on different occasions. I can swerve around 1 or 2 but when a whole group just step out without looking I had no chance.

I normally thimk Halfords prices are much higher than most but a few days ago they had an aluminium framed Dahon with £100 off their normal price, now £3?? .. Looked like a good price at the time + a bit of back up.

All makes - Fold up cycles - Lrac

Looks like its not available at the moment. Shame as it looked like a decent spec

Edited by Lrac on 25/12/2017 at 12:47

All makes - Fold up cycles - smallcar
I use a Brompton as a daily commute bike in London. Find it very easy to cycle but I know compared to many lighter weight bikes they’re not quick or efficient in terms of speed for energy expended.

It’s been completely trouble free and i think it benefits from Brompton making or commissioning bespoke parts so it is more than odd the shelf parts bolted together that some makes appear to be. In someways it is a bit of an Apple type product - you either buy into the whole thing or go and find a cheaper option. The bags and accessories are not cheap but they’re all very nicely designed or from high class suppliers who have been carefully vetted by Brompton to be able to supply .

They’re never available at discount generally but that does preserve the second hand value a bit. I don’t believe you vs buy them on the internet only either. Believe you have to be an authorised dealer. As someone else suggested you can get free loans for 24hrs to try At many bike shops.
All makes - Fold up cycles - ifekas

I have two Ridgeback folding bikes (I believe these are rebadged Dahon ones); the older one which is probably about 20 years old has a normal derailleur gears, and the newer one purchased a couple of years ago has Shimano hub gears.

I can highly recommend these types of bicycles for certain uses.

These take up much more space folded compared to a Brompton but are much cheaper. If one may be taking the bike on say the Tube, I would go with a Brompton. But just as an alternative to taking a full sized bicycle, the Ridgeback folding bikes are great, and can provide options when going to places such as Cambridge where parking in the city centre is very expensive.

As for suitability for longer cycle rides, I have been for 50 mile cycle rides and they are fine. The riding position is more upright so there tends to be more pressure on one's bottom on a long ride, but otherwise pretty good.

All makes - Fold up cycles - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

Try before you buy.

I bought a cheapish folder many years ago. It had a very short wheel base with a long seatpost. The front wheel lifted when pedalling hard up hills and it was very twitchy going down hill.Potholed roads could jar the folding mechanism into opening up. Interesting. I eventually sold it to someone who wanted a bike for a canal holiday.

All makes - Fold up cycles - liammcl

if you have muscles :)
an old folding one , 3 speed , is hard to beat

Here's mine, 20 inch UNiversal multisport (£5 from a charity shop )

ibb.co/bDnwXG

in the back seat (it'll fit in the boot too)
ibb.co/dosYew

I use mine for when I'm working in the heart of town, it saves on finding a parking place & £10
ibb.co/ksZ1XG

some on fleabay
goo.gl/AEY5YW

Cheers
Liam
ps you can get folding 26 inch bikes too..

Edited by liammcl on 26/12/2017 at 21:03

All makes - Fold up cycles - Warning

I was at a cycling event, I was lucky enough to ride on a GoCyle. It is an electric cycle and when I rode, it was one of the most exciting cycling experience of my life! You need to start peddling a little, press a button and the power kicks in. I have never gone so fast on a cyle. It does fold down.

The first evolution of the GoCyle was £1000, the next generation was GoCyle G2 was £2,000, and the GoCycle G3 came it at £3,000. So I have not been happy with prices going up on every generation, but the new GoCycle GS is back at a £2,400+

The cycle is designed by a former McLaren car design engineer Richard Thorpe...

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