Intersection without markings - AlexT

Hi, I just have a question regarding UK law, I already looked on directgov, and couldn't find it. In my country we drive on the right, and if you find yourself in an unmarked intersection, i.e. there are no signs to say anything, you give way if there is someone coming from your right. If there is someone coming from your left, he gives way to you, because you are on his right. But how does it work here? What do you do if you come into an intersection without signs if you drive on the left? Who gives way?

Alex

Intersection without markings - NARU

It's quite unusual to find such a situation in the UK. But if you do, nobody has right of way.

In practice the more confident driver would probably go first!

Intersection without markings - Ethan Edwards

Whatever happened to give way to the traffic on the right?

Intersection without markings - Bobbin Threadbare

I thought you yielded right too. That's how roundabouts work! Highway Code, section 185.

Intersection without markings - jamie745

I've been driving for 10 years and ive never seen an unmarked intersection here in the UK. If you take away the lines, signs and traffic lights then British motorists just start arguing over right-of-way and every assumes its theirs. However if you do come across such a thing then i would presume it'd be treated the same as a roundabout which is for everybody to give way to the right.

Intersection without markings - John F

The main problem I have noticed is crossing a crossroads where the road you are crossing is the main road. Oncoming cars which have reached the other side of the crossroads at the same time as you, seem to think it is their right of way to turn right across your path when it is your right of way to go straight on.

I don't think the highway code is very clear on this. [I hope I have described it clearly!]

Intersection without markings - jamie745

OP, buy a large car and just pull out. People soon stop.

Intersection without markings - Ethan Edwards

Almost Jamie, what you meant was buy an old shed of a car, dirty and with dings all over it. Then anyone approaching you will assume you ..A ...have lots of little mishaps and... B ...have no insurance. Guaranteed to let you go first...I would.

Intersection without markings - IRC

As per The Highway Code Rule 124

"look out for unmarked junctions where nobody has priority."

So it is up to everyone to ensure it is safe before crossing the junction. In general first there will cross first. Watch out where one street is busier or wider than the other though and may be trwated by locals as having priority.

Intersection without markings - BigJohnD

There are priorities, as others have said, but they're not always easy to figure out. There are no 4-way stops as in Texas and other parts of the US of A.

I was involved in a collision at a junction (cross roads) with no markings. These roads were in a community of terraced houses - so just wide enough for 2 cars to pass and lots of double yellow parking restrictions,

The incident ended up in court, with quasi-scientific evidence from the police as well as statements from me, the other driver and a witness, about what had happened.

The key factor in deciding who had right of way was the way the tarmac had been laid. The road with the continuously laid tarmac was deemed to be the road with priority.

I was driving along the continuous tarmac, and the other party was driving on tarmac which butted up to the continuously laid road. So I was deemed to have priority, and the other driver should given way.

I was hit by the other car from my right, i.e. the driver's side, right on the B post. This was also seen as contributory in that other driver drove into me. Tyre marks on the road indicated I had taken appropriate evasive action.

There was an element of comedy at the end when they found the other driver guilty of careless driving. He was asked to produce his driving licence, but said he hadn't got it. The Clerk of the Court asked if he had had the letter telling him to bring his licence to the Court. He said he had. And added that the reason he hadn't got it was because the Magistrates had taken it off him the previous day when they banned him from driving!

Edited by BigJohnD on 23/02/2012 at 19:20

Intersection without markings - fredthefifth

I'm sure that when my daughter was practicing for her theory thest there was a question on ths and the answer was that nobody had priority.

Goodness knows had blame can be decided in the case of an accident though!

Intersection without markings - AlexT

Wow! What do you guys do when you go abroad, in my country at least nobody bothers putting signs on small streets, everybody knows the guy on the left gives way. Also, in my country local roads give way to county roads, which give way to national roads. so if you're foreign and have no clue that local roads are marked with yellow, county with blue and national with red, you could be thinking because there are no signs you have right of way over the traffic on your left, which is not the case.

Intersection without markings - SlidingPillar

I know of one country cross roads where all four legs have stop signs painted on the road. Sort of sensible, except that if you stop at the lines, you can't see down either of the crossing roads as the stop lines are painted too far back.

You have to drive at least a further 10 feet to see if it's safe to proceed.

Intersection without markings - NARU

Wow! What do you guys do when you go abroad, in my country at least nobody bothers putting signs on small streets, everybody knows the guy on the left gives way. Also, in my country local roads give way to county roads, which give way to national roads. so if you're foreign and have no clue that local roads are marked with yellow, county with blue and national with red, you could be thinking because there are no signs you have right of way over the traffic on your left, which is not the case.

Wait until you drive in France - in some areas, the traffic on the main road has to give priority to traffic from the right - even if you're barrellng down a major road at 60mph, and its a tiny track on the right. Catches a lot of brits out

Intersection without markings - AlexT

@Marlot: Does it at least have a stop/give way sign?

@Sliding Pillar : In my country if two cars have the same sign, it's the same rule, the one on the left gives way. That implies that you look to see what sign the one on the left has.

Intersection without markings - NARU

@Marlot: Does it at least have a stop/give way sign?

No!

Its almost disappeared in many areas of France, but there are pockets where it can be common. Its decided at a local level so one village can be priorite a droit, but the next village not!

I nearly got wiped out by a local who came bombing out of a side road.

Edited by Marlot on 27/02/2012 at 15:12

Intersection without markings - Bromptonaut
Wait until you drive in France - in some areas, the traffic on the main road has to give priority to traffic from the right - even if you're barrellng down a major road at 60mph, and its a tiny track on the right. Catches a lot of brits out

Priorite a droite on a main route is pretty rare these days though it often still applies in small towns and villages. A yellow diamond, usually present on signs exiting urban areas, shows the main route having priority. The same sign crossed through indicates end of priority.

The odd rural cross roads carrries a danger warning but I've never been caught out on a main road ith 30,000k driving in France over 12 years.

Had the odd sharp stop in villages though!!

Intersection without markings - SlidingPillar
@Sliding Pillar : In my country if two cars have the same sign, it's the same rule, the one on the left gives way. That implies that you look to see what sign the one on the left has.

Alex T: Sensible, but in the case of the junction I'm talking about, two cars stopped at the line - as all four roads have lines, would not know of the existance of the other until they'd moved forward.

Issue could be much better if the lines had actually been painted where the junction is, not at least 10 feet back from it.

I'm pretty sure that most traffic just lets the more major road traffic through, and then proceeds,. It is a very lightly used junction and you'd only be delayed by a few seconds to let one car go.