Lunchtime pondering...
Has the reverse angle windscreen (e.g. Anglia , Ami 6 ) since been repeated? and what about the hinged rear window on a Hillman Imp?
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johnny
A few estate cars have the ability to either open the tailgate or just the rear window independently of the whole tailgate. 5 series touring comes to mind. I'm sure there are others.
The repeat of the Anglia reverse rake screen appeared in the Ford Classic, of course.
JS
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Wasn't there a Reliant with an Angliaesque rear screen?I like the American shooting brake idea of a wind down window in the tailgate.
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Classic Capri,how could I forget that?
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I'd forgotten about the term "shooting brake". Is it as the name suggests for shooting guns out of the rear?
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The opening rear window is alive and well .The Honda CRV has one and I think they are an option on some 'town cars' to make it easier to drop the shopping in when parked tightly.
What I remember about the Ford Classic is there was no rear shelf to display your trilby.
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sierraman
Actually it was the 'Consul Classic' that had the reverse rake screen. At that time Ford were trying to get the name Consul in every name. Heaven knows why. The Cortina was officially a 'Consul Cortina' 'till '65.
Now the 'Consul Capri' was the coupe version of the Classic. Didn't have the reverse rake screen on that - rear screen was conventional, and about 30 degrees to the horizontal.
The Classic started out with the lovely(!) 1340 3 main bearing crank engine. Now, given the 1200 could run its bearings in 20 thousand miles that wasn't a particularly good idea. That probably is best forgotten!
JS
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Think a shooting brake was used to transport the 'sportsmen' to the grouse moors. Watch Gosford Park and you'll see.
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Shooting brake/break? was used in my family as meaning any estate car. The Simca 1500 estate was another example with an opening tailgate window. Like a manual window winder except the handle folded over. Unfold, insert key and unlock, wind down window and most small items could just be dropped in. Lower half of tailgate hinged at bottom and lowered to horizontal. On GLS models the boot floor could be removed and became a picnic table - again something I've seen much more recently in a Honda SUV.
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smart fortwo has a hinged rear window.
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My first car was an Anglia 105e with the reverse rake rear window that was going to become the new trend I recall --- a bit like the square steering wheel on the Allegro!! LoL!!
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I remember using an ancient school bus in the 1970s which had a hinged rear window. Any poor motorcyclist stuck behind bus had to edure shower of gob, apple cores, paper towels, Gem mini french dictionaries etc.
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Off topic, but . . .
what is the origin / etymology of "shooting brake"?
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not forgetting "saloon" "estate" etc.
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Not sure about the rear window but it looks OK to me.
www.924.org/models/ShootingBrake.htm
or something newer
www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/audi_news/printer_...l
or something for the upper class?
www.rrab.com/s2wend.htm
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SHOOTING BREAK (Br.) or SHOOTING BRAKE (Br.) - a station wagon, in Britain a break (station wagon) used for hunting or shooting, hence shooting break or shooting brake. A British dictionary gives the definition of "brake" as "a kind of vehicle - see break". The definition for "break" as a noun reads "a large wagonette: a carriage used in breaking horses."
See www.coachbuilt.com for lots more definitions in this area!
As I said , watch Gosford Park.
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I believe the Mk1 MR2 had a reverse rake rear windscreen?
I don't know the origin of shooting brake, but as I understand it, it refers to a 3-door estate specifically, it is not just another word for estate.
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Found this definition:
In the United Kingdom, a very specific type, rare these days, is known as a shooting brake. These are modifications of luxury coupés with an estate car - like back fitted. They generally remain with two side doors. The purpose of them, historically, is obvious from the name; they were vehicles for the well-off shooter and hunter, giving space to carry shotguns and other equipment. They have rarely been made by the factory and are generally aftermarket conversions; some are still made.
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sierraman Actually it was the 'Consul Classic' that had the reverse rake screen. At that time Ford were trying to get the name Consul in every name. Heaven knows why. The Cortina was officially a 'Consul Cortina' 'till '65. Now the 'Consul Capri' was the coupe version of the Classic. Didn't have the reverse rake screen on that - rear screen was conventional, and about 30 degrees to the horizontal. The Classic started out with the lovely(!) 1340 3 main bearing crank engine. Now, given the 1200 could run its bearings in 20 thousand miles that wasn't a particularly good idea. That probably is best forgotten! JS
Ah yes,I remember now you have jogged the memory.I had the 1200 in my Anglia,snapped the crankshaft just ahead of the centre bearing,there was a bubble right in the middle of the break which can't have helped.
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<< snapped the crankshaft just ahead of the centrebearing,there was a bubble right in the middle of the break which can't have helped.
Known in the trade as porosity.
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Classic Capri,how could I forget that?
Ah yes, rotted before my eyes. Nice big boot though.
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There was a Lincoln continental with one of those reverse-rake rear windscreens. Featured in the movie Five Easy Pieces if I remember rightly.
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I think "shooting brake" usually meant one of those extended wooden-framed cars. I suppose it was an easy way for a traditional coachbuilder to build-on a customised body, being basically just carpentry.
The Morris minor was the last, and very tiny, example of the type, but not a real one because it didn't actually have any seats in the rear section.
"Station wagon" is the American, and I think also Australian, term for estate car, now usually shortened to just wagon, just as ours is shortened to "estate". Station of course is their word for a big sheep or cattle ranch.
All three terms convey the implication that the owner is landed, but doesn't actually work the estate himself. His staff would have landrovers or similar for the real dirty work.
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Although not an "Anglia", the current Megane has a pretty vertical rear window.
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Megane has a pretty vertical rear window.
As does the 3 door Cit C4. Has an absolutely tiny wiper too.
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Rover 75 tourer (not an estate or a shooting break but a tourer!)has higed rear window
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