Carefully chosen to avoid the not so simple, they are the last reasonably simple durable vehicle you can buy, plus commercial VED rates and VAT reclaimable for those qualifying.

Just as nice to drive as any car if specified well and bought from the right maker, they don't have bullbars any more because they were banned from being fitted to new vehicles some years ago, around 2006 if my memory serves.

They're driven no differently to any other vehicle these days, incompetent ignorant arrogant tailgating bullying fools covers an increasing number of drivers of vehicles of all sizes and types.

As a vehicle for buying for private use they can make a lot of sense, if we didn't have the dogs i would probably have bought another Hilux instead of the Landcruiser, but the Hilux load bed is a bit too high for Spaniels so another Landcruise but this time with height adjustable suspension it is, do i need it?, no, but even in 2016 Britain (not heading for Brexit, amazing :-) we don't yet to get permission from a good comrade so i'll stick to my choice of vehicle for my reasons and leave others to their choice too.

Would i have a Mercedes or Bentley or Landrover pick up, no, but then i wouldn't buy any of their current vehicles anyway.

Max kerb weight of a Mondeo is 1656kg. Ranger max kerb weight is 2110kg. Without question the Ranger etc are unwelcome leviathans.

Anyone got a last shape Navara? NCAP adult occupant rating was one star...........drive carefully. The last time any vehicle had a rating that bad was the Rover 100.

GordonBennet, a good level headed reply. I think too many people will buy a ute in UK just to make themselves look butch and intimidate other road users. I can see you don't.

"Ute" is an Australian-specific term for cars like the Vauxhall Maloo, a rebadged Holden, not normally used for European/Asian "pickups" or American "trucks"

Is that so? www.toyota.com.au/utes-and-vans

In South Africa they're known as a Bakkie.

"... incompetent ignorant arrogant tailgating bullying fools ..."

I hope you haven't used all your ammunition in one burst there, GB.

:-)

i haven't got 40 years left so rapid fire will have to do.

:-)

I haven't got 40 years left either, so hopefully I'll be able to read it all.

:-)

Sooner you than me Madf, they've (corrupt politicians elected by fools) ruined and changed forever so much of our country and way of life over my 61 years that i really don't want to see what more they can do to the place should i make to 110.

Either voters voted for them - so it's the voters' fault.

Or people did not vote - so they cannot complain as non voters are a waste of space.

Or voters think there is a magic money tree and politicians are trying to find it :-)

There is much in what you say, unfortunately if you go into a shop and all that is for sale is counterfeit soiled and utterly useless repulsive goods, you don't buy anything, and for too long as well you know we've had interchangeable identikit mainstream politicians who if you met them in the street (yeah right) you'd be hard placed to work out which party they represented, they don't of course they represent themselves but mainly people who pay to bankroll the whole ponzi scheme.

as always there are exceptions to this who are honest and straight whom i respect whether i agree with them or not, such as Dennis Skinner, Frank Field and Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Maybe for the last 30 years we've had the governments we as a nation, not individuals, deserve.

Not as i'm in the least bothered by it at all any more, i used to worry about the state of our country but in all honesty its almost beyond saving and not enough people prepared to do their bit, its certainly beyond paying the debts that successive governments (who really do believe in magic money) have run up in ours and our childrens names, not as any of this will matter a jot when Clinton gets elected and starts the war to end them all..,so don't lay too many odds at Ladbrooks that you'll make it to 110 will you..:-))

Edited by gordonbennet on 07/11/2016 at 19:05