Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve

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Sat 24 Nov 2012 16:06
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - asdfg12345
Hi everyone need some advice quickly.

Sold a car 2 years ago. Was then contacted by an insurance company and police 2 weeks later to say the car had been involved in accident after sale date. I told them the details of the buyer and advised i was no longer the owner. I also sent a letter to the dvla to advise that they had not taken my name off the logbook and to do so with the correct details asap and provided date of sale.

2 years later now a third party company presumably working for an insurance company has contacted me advising me to prove that i sold the car, i advised all relevant parties are aware who the owner was at the time as i have given the details, it seems to me that the person that bought the car has refused to accept liability one way or another and now the company has come to me?

I have now received a letter from the MIB advising that they believe i was the owner and driver which i was clearly not. I don't have much documentation to prove the sale as it was 2 years ago and just thought it would be a normal sale.

I have already advised the third party company that the vehicle was sold but it seems that due to dvla not changing my name off the logbook at the correct time they keep on wanting to pursue me. I have now requested from the dvla details of when the vehicle was taken off my name.

It seems as though whoever had the accident is trying to pull a fast one and i am being blamed for it. How can i defend these allegations if the dvla have messed up with the records.

Would appreciate a reply with advice.

Best regards
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Sat 24 Nov 2012 16:54
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - bathtub tom

Did you inform the DVLA at the time you sold the car? If so they should have sent you a receipt confirming it's no longer registered in your name.

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Sat 24 Nov 2012 17:01
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - asdfg12345
Hi sent what you have to send to dvla when selling car but did not receive confirmation, so once i received the letters from police and insurance company i wrote to dvla to advise that they had not taken my name off the logbook and gave them the date of actual sale.

i think after that two weeks later dvla sent me confirmation but i don't know what date they took the car off my name which is worrying me also police never followed up. Would dvla keep a copy of the letter i sent them?

Thanks
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Sat 24 Nov 2012 18:40
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - Galaxy

It sounds to me that the person who had the accident had no insurance! That's the only way I can see the MIB would ever be involved.

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Sat 24 Nov 2012 20:02
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - asdfg12345
Yes it does seem they did not have insurance but although i have constantly stated i sold the car now for some reason the MIb has got involved and now there bugging me, how do i get rid of this problem, stressing me out these people, it seems that when they cant find the correct individual they look for a scapegoat.
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Sat 24 Nov 2012 18:40
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - tony g
Hi ,you need to be able to prove that you sold the car and when .Do you have any form of receipt from when you sold the car or an invoice copy from any advert that you used to sell the car.
It's an offence if you fail to notify the dvla that a car has changed owners ,so you could be liable for a fine .
It may help if you go back to the insurance company you insured the car with and ask them to confirm the date you cancelled the insurance .
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Sat 24 Nov 2012 19:59
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - asdfg12345
Hi i been looking for receipts all over the place but cannot find one, i never insured the car as while it was in my possession i never drove it as i had another car which i wanted to get rid of first.

I did send the logbook slip to dvla but it seems they never updated their system so i wrote to them to let them know the date and who it was sold to, they then sent acknowledgement to say the owner had been changed.

I have informed the insurance companies and third parties who contacted me and advised them of the buyers details but they still keep on pestering me.

What do i do? Its obvious that dvla did not update the system and now as a result i am in this mess now.
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Sat 24 Nov 2012 20:48
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - Galaxy

I think you are certainly correct when you say the MIBand other organisations are "Looking for a scapegoat". Basically they're trying to look for someone they can get money out of. They are probably just fishing, covering every possibility they can think of.

You could go to the police and ask them to investigate the matter. They may or may not be willing to do so, depending upon whether they consider a crime has been committed.

You could also ask a solicitor to write to the MIB and anyone else who's involved in relation to this matter setting out the situation regarding the sale of the vehicle and requesting they make no further contact with you. They will take a lot more notice of a communication from your solicitor than they will of one from yourself. However, this will, of course, cost you money.

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Sat 24 Nov 2012 21:09
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - asdfg12345
Thanks mate i think i will get in touch with a solicitor cause they don't seem to be getting the message that the car was sold, someone somewhere is trying to pull a fast one. Dvla have messed up big time by the looks of it, baring in mind they must have been busy over christmas period, it also seems a lot of people do have problems when it comes to dvla changing ownership.
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Sat 24 Nov 2012 22:21
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - Smileyman

A few thought shout out to me, apologies if already covered....

How were you paid? Cheque or cash - was it banked, can you show an entry on your bank statement to prove when (and how much) you were paid.

Was the car you sold insured, did you cancel the cover when it was sold?

Can you show a receipt for an advert to sell the car, suitably dated, or a copy of the ad itself?

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Sat 24 Nov 2012 23:33
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - asdfg12345
Hi, sold it with a "for sale" sign. Was a cash sale and had to spend money and as stated never insured the car and never drove it as could not get rid of my other car.

The problem is the third party found insurance of the buyer and contacted them from what they explained to me but they are denying ownership saying they sold the car also prior to the date of accident. by the looks of it because the dvla messed up andDVLA never took my name of logbook at correct date they want to pursue me??? But this is not right as they the MIB and third party cannot just blame me for this out of the blue after 2 years when i have states all the facts and contacted all relevant authorities prior to the contact by third party and MIB.

There definitely seems to be a scenario where they just want to blame anyone now and is becoming really distressful.


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Sun 25 Nov 2012 14:05
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - Bromptonaut

Thinking aloud here.

The MIB have presumably paid out for an uninsured accident - a hit/run where driver was not identified?

They have an obligation to the unsurance industry which funds then through a levy to recover payouts where they can trace the liable party. Frankly if they had £100 for every time there was no DVLA keeper change but R/K at time says he'd just sold it for cash there'd be no need for a levy!

The OP needs to explain clearly to them with as much suporting detail as possible EXACTLY what happened. This might include the date of the transaction, any description of the purchaser and how he arrived left and how you were paid. Did you keep a copy of the notification slips detatched from the V5 or of any other correspondence.

In the circs you may need to stand the story up in court so getting the legwork done now rather than later when memory has failed further would be a good thing.

EDIT You say in your openining post that police visited shortly after sale/accident and you gave them purchaser's details. If matter is still live they and MIB should have access to the officer's notes.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 25/11/2012 at 14:07

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Sun 25 Nov 2012 14:48
Anything - Sold car, car involved in accident now mib involve - asdfg12345
Hi, by the looks of the initial letter the mib have sent they have just received this matter and have not paid out yet.

The police did not visit but they sent a letter, all details were filled and sent off and nothing back up until after 2 years???
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