Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - concerrned

After coming across Honest John's article on 'bullying on motor forums' today I was really concerned how quickly other members & HJ's administrator bullied the thread starter off your site. As far as I could see this person was highlighting a very serious issue which was quickly rubbished and discredited. 2 months ago my daughter attempted suicide because of forum bullying so the response here really angered me. You only have to Google 'bullying on motoring forums' and it brings you straight to HJ's very poor show against scum bags and low lives who make increasing numbers of people young and old a living hell. Perhaps HJ's should have a good look at its self here because the entire internet is very concerned about this subject and you are currently coming across as just another motoring forum bully? I can guess however that this post will also be rubbished & probably removed - shame on you!

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - dodgethebullies

After coming across Honest John's article on 'bullying on motor forums' today I was really concerned how quickly other members & HJ's administrator bullied the thread starter off your site. As far as I could see this person was highlighting a very serious issue which was quickly rubbished and discredited. 2 months ago my daughter attempted suicide because of forum bullying so the response here really angered me. You only have to Google 'bullying on motoring forums' and it brings you straight to HJ's very poor show against scum bags and low lives who make increasing numbers of people young and old a living hell. Perhaps HJ's should have a good look at its self here because the entire internet is very concerned about this subject and you are currently coming across as just another motoring forum bully? I can guess however that this post will also be rubbished & probably removed - shame on you!

Thanks for your response here and I really hope your daughter is OK now

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - gordonbennet

The internet reflects the standard of behaviour, attitude, morals and manners found in all walks of life, all declining at an incresing rate as far as i can see..

If one is easily upset by such things then it makes good sense to keep away from them, that applies whether its an internet forum or a public house.

The thread you refer to wasn't a discussion on internet bullies, it was a referral to another forum inviting comments and condemnation of the way another forum handled its memberships postings....a forum that gets into a slanging match with another isn't somewhere i'd want to be.

In a normal discussion here there will be differing points of view, many of us will try to inject our opposing views with a little light banter and some others will do so it a bit more pointedly, of course the person reading the post doesn't see the mischevious grin on the face of the poster as he presses send.

Some threads that have surfaced do deserve ill disguised sarcasm, when a car owner for example has neglected their car, not had it serviced or otherwise mistreated it, it goes wrong and they then come on a forum like this jumping up and down because manufacturer X hasn't repaired their poor suffering car for free....the same sarcastic posters will be lining up to condemn the same maker X if they take the P out of decent customers who have played by the rules, its life.

There will always be an opposing view to yours or mine, if those views were not aired it wouldn't be a forum, it would be propaganda and only deserving of a mainstream political party and its media apparatchiks..:-).

This applies anywhere not just in motoring.

Edited by gordonbennet on 24/04/2012 at 14:39

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - unthrottled

Have you heard of Godwin's law?

It states:

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involing Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

The nature of forums is that posters (myself included) will sometimes be inclined to post remarks that, in hindsight, seemrash and intemperate. That is the a side effect of a free forum. However, the benefits of a free forum far outweigh the disadvantages.

I don't accept that online bullying is a serious problem. Unlike real life, online 'bullying' requires the 'victim' to participate of their own volition. I struggle to empathise with people who join a forum with the express intention of being offended.

Anybody driven to suicidal tendencies from an internet discussion needs to seek help.

The original poster to which you refer has managed to feel alienated from two entirely separate forums. This would appear to suggest that the problem lies with the poster not everyone else.

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - dodgethebullies

Have you heard of Godwin's law?

It states:

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involing Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

The nature of forums is that posters (myself included) will sometimes be inclined to post remarks that, in hindsight, seemrash and intemperate. That is the a side effect of a free forum. However, the benefits of a free forum far outweigh the disadvantages.

I don't accept that online bullying is a serious problem. Unlike real life, online 'bullying' requires the 'victim' to participate of their own volition. I struggle to empathise with people who join a forum with the express intention of being offended.

Anybody driven to suicidal tendencies from an internet discussion needs to seek help.

The original poster to which you refer has managed to feel alienated from two entirely separate forums. This would appear to suggest that the problem lies with the poster not everyone else.

No further comment needed here really following the verbal self portrait of a bully

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - unthrottled

What is your problem?

The infallible wikipedia defines bylling as:

"a form of aggressive behavior (sic) manifested by the use of force or coercion to affect others, particularly when the behavior is habitual and involves an imbalance of power."

Does my previous post encapsulate that description? If you recall our previous discussion, my final post was highly complimentary and included an apology. You chose not to accept it. Your choice.

The fact that somebody diagrees with you does not make them a bully, even if the counter view is expressed sharply.

Do you not see the irony of posting personal remarks about another poster while at the same time complaining at being bullied?

I can only conclude that you are a troll. Well done. You had me there.

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - concerrned

Anybody driven to suicidal tendencies from an internet discussion needs to seek help.

My daughter is 13 yrs old and still undergoing intensive counselling for the psychological harm she endured from some very wicked people - you sound like one of them?

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - gordonbennet

Seems to me like two remarkably similar internet bullies have turned up.

Concerrned, how dare you say such a thing here about a poster, shame on you.

I hope this thread is wiped in short order before i say something i'd rather not about care and responsibility.

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - unthrottled

Same person, two different email adresses. It's very sad.

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - concerrned

When a gang turns up I feel its time to depart, however the point has been made and if not people reading my thread can make their own minds up!

I made my point and I hope others on this forum can stand up to you two but I can't!

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - unthrottled

You'll always be welcome back should you change your mind!

Edit: Maybe next time you might want to discuss...ooh, I don't know...cars perhaps? It being a motoring forum and all that...

Edited by unthrottled on 24/04/2012 at 15:38

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - dodgethebullies

You'll always be welcome back should you change your mind!

Edit: Maybe next time you might want to discuss...ooh, I don't know...cars perhaps? It being a motoring forum and all that...

Get well soon!

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - dodgethebullies

Personally I think the 'case in point' here has been made extremely well. Two threads have been created with the intention of highlighting bullying on motor forums as endemic and the same bully felt challenged enough to turn up to both!

Well done mate its the perfect example of bullying on motor forums and guess what it's number one on Google.

Thanks for your time!

Re - 'bullying on motoring forums' - BorisTheSpider

Locked like the last thread.

Boris