This may sound petty but... - Hugo {P}
....Some of us have to live here!

What is it about some idiot drivers and passengers that think that they can just open their car doors and throw litter on the street.

I just followed a car through my village and witnessed a passenger open his or her door to deposit an empty plastic disposable milk carton. I personally take pride in where I live, and to see this happen in my village makes me feel as if though someone has just emptied a rubbish sack in my front garden!

It would have been so easy to either take it home or deposit it in one of the scores of public bins in the village.

The good news is that I have his registration number, and he will be rewarded with a visit from the boys in blue, as a public order offence has been committed.

This may sound petty but... - GB
This reminds me of a true story (?) from several years ago.
Apologies if you have heard it before.

Apparently one day as a car zoomed out of an office car park,
a can or similar piece of litter flew out of the sunroof on to
the street. The car then joined the waiting queue of traffic a few yards up the road.

On seeing this, a passer-by quietly picked up the litter and put it in the litter bin nearby. He then picked up the litter bin and empted it into the car through the sun roof.

Well thats one way to deal with the problem.
This may sound petty but... - Hugo {P}
No I have not heard that before!

This individual made a fairly quick getaway, I suspect that when I flashed my lights at him, he wanted to be somewhere else!

I just hope he's having an affair or something with someone in the village and his wife gives him the 3rd degree about why he was in this village at that time, when he gave some other excuse!
This may sound petty but... - HF
No, it's not petty at all. It makes me mad that we have to put up with these mindless people who do such things.

It's not just your area, Hugo, I've seen it many times before, in particular one salesman-type who parked right outside my house and left his empty Macdonalds cartons as a calling card.

Temptation was to go out and say something, but I'm ashamed to say that I didn't - and didn't get reg number either.
HF
This may sound petty but... - Vin {P}
Not petty at all. Two personal occurrences:

One - when I was a courier in Cambridge, I was pootling past a queue when a chap opened his driver's window and slung out a fag packet (B&H, if you're interested). I stopped, put the bike on the sidestand, picked up the packet and threw it back in. For a moment he looked like he was going to do something, but at 6'3" and wearing leathers and helmet, I suspect I looked a tad intimidating. Little did he know that I'm soft as rice pudding.

Two - the day after I moved to Southampton, a family of four were sitting outside my house eating a McDonalds. An hour or so later, when I went out, I found the wrappers (and boy, do McDonalds know how to waste paper on wrappers) on the pavement outside my house. What got me about that one was that they did it in front of their kids, who will think it's acceptable behaviour. Didn't get their number, or I'd have reported it.

V
This may sound petty but... - RichardW
A few years ago we were walking along the seafront at one of the resorts on the SE of the Isle of Wight when window winds down just in front of us and out comes a big bundle of chip papers. My Dad picked up the papers, knocked on the window, and when it was wound down camly said "This is yours, I think?" and posted it back through the window. The look on the Woman's face was excellent! The paper had not reappeared when we walked back....

I say give it back to them!

Richard
This may sound petty but... - doug_523i
This is all in a day's riding to motorcyclists. Every day I get a lit cigarette whistle past my ear, plus assorted apple cores, orange peel, etc. Surprisingly, it's not the beat-up bangers that are the worst offenders, it's usually a higher scale company car.
This may sound petty but... - RB
The other day, I was following a surprisingly clean white van which had the name of its company owner all over it, along with the phone number on the back doors.

Within 15 seconds, an empty sandwich packet, bag of crisps and a drink carton came flying out of the driver's window.

At that point, I metamorphosised into Victor Meldrew. So, I broke the law by dialling the firm's phone number from my mobile. I really was so annoyed that I could hardly speak, but just managed to do a true Victor:

"Hello, I am following one of your vans, registration number whatever", and explained what had just happened and pointed out that this was a., illegal and antisocial and b., was not a very good advertisement for their business and had been in the market for their services, I would know not to use them.

I really was so livid that I regret that I didn't hold on to hear the response.

Still, it made me feel a bit better even if it did cost a phone call.

Strange lot of people around aren't there?

RB - aka Victor and proud of it
This may sound petty but... - Dynamic Dave
I broke the law by dialling the firm's phone number...
I really was so livid that I regret that I didn't hold on to
hear the response.


Wasn't a mobile phone number was it? I can just imagine you speaking to the driver of the van; and the next thing that happends is his colleague leaps out the passenger seat into the back of the van and heaves a washing machine out the back doors at you :o)
This may sound petty but... - 007
Thank-you for starting this thread Hugo...the more drivers (and pedestrians) we can get 'on side' the better it will be. Keep Britain Tidy!

I have a particular objection to the various unauthorised signs which regularly appear on traffic lights, lamp-posts etc and carry a Stanley knife in the car at all times to aid removing same.

I also take a dim view of 'fly posting' 20" x 30" (and larger) adverts for Raves etc on street furniture and unoccupied shop windows. Just today I have torn one such poster from the front of a BT junction box and have my eye on two more!

I feel that I have just as much 'right' to tear them down as the people who put them up (they have no 'right' but I'm sure you see what I mean).
This may sound petty but... - Graham
nobody has mentioned that charming habit of emptying ash trays in the car park. Yuk!

And I'm with the bikers above. I once remonstrated with a bimbo in a Golf who chucked a lit dog end out of the window. She told me not to be so silly!
This may sound petty but... - Hugo {P}
WOW

This really has created something of a debate!

I shall not hesitate to take the reg number of the next vehicle I see depositing rubbish on the road.

Do our hosts HJ and Mak RLBS have any comments/experiences? Are there any initiatives that they know about to combat this?

With respect to my original post at the top that I put on yesterday, I'll let you all know if I hear anything more from the Police. It looks like this antisocial behaviour needs to be taken more seriously than it is at the moment.

Keep the stories coming!

All the best and thanks for the support.

Hugo
This may sound petty but... - Mark (RLBS)
>>Do our hosts HJ and Mak RLBS have any comments/experiences?

HJ is your host, I am merely the door security.
This may sound petty but... - PhilW
I've often thought about returning litter to people with a "I think you dropped this" remark but have always been put off by the reaction I got from someone who at three successive sets of lights was in the wrong lane, on each occasion I patiently waved him in front of me. On the third, I raised the palms of my hands and smiled quizzically (i.e. in a friendly but puzzled way). He reached into his door pocket, got out a Stanley knife and he and his passenger threatened to slit my f****** throat and various other things with a lot of "fs" in. Hate to think if he'd been the one I'd returned litter to. Be careful!!
On a slightly different tack - anyone driven A14 from M1 to A1? many lay-bys with no litter bins (in the hope that people will take litter home??) Never seen so much rubbish adorning mile after mile of road and hedge. Looks like a continuous communal dump.
This may sound petty but... - smokie
While I don't disagree with your reasoning, I would suggest you need to be a little careful "taking the law into your own hands" especially where that involves carrying and use of a Stanley knife.

I have particular frustrations with our local council attitude to signs on street furniture as assistant organised of our town carnival, run in aid of local charities. When we ask for permission to erect some relatively discreet signs advertising our event, and advising road closures, it is refused, or grudgingly allowed no more than 3 days before the event. When we once decided not to ask, and put up signs 1 week before the event, we were called and told that if we did not remove them by the end of that day then the council would remove them and also threatened legal action. And yet the house builders, computer fair and work from home merchants seem to be immune from the same rules.

This may sound petty but... - DavidHM
Smokie - probably the reason is that your event was easily identifiable in terms of organisers, location, etc.

On the other hand, computer fairs, work from home, and so on, have only a prepay mobile phone no. or a hotmail e-mail address that are all but untraceable.

The same applies to (here's the motoring link) abandoned vs. badly parked cars. An abandoned health hazard will often be there for weeks, while a shiny new Merc on a single yellow line can be towed within 20 minutes. At least it can round here - they know they'll identify the Merc owner and get money out of them, whereas with an A-reg Metro, there's no chance.
This may sound petty but... - Armitage Shanks{P}
What about these sad signs with balloons round them saying "Big John is 40 today!". As if we care! Stay at home, keep quiet about it and eat your cake!
This may sound petty but... - RB
Funnily enough there wasn't a mobile number displayed and anyway, I may not have dialled it for fear of being reverse-rammed or worse. Also, it costs a fortune to call a mobie from a mobie!

Not 'arf tempted to blow the expense when it happens again though.

Victor
This may sound petty but... - THe Growler
Move to Singapore: the punishment there for littering is a good caning.
This may sound petty but... - dimdip
Glad to hear that others hate litter as much as me. One question tho: Do the police actually follow-up on litter offences given that they are apparently unable to devote time to more serious crimes ?
This may sound petty but... - Homme van Blanc
PDP Said "Do the police actually follow-up on litter offences given that they are apparently unable to devote time to more serious crimes ?"

Are you Joe King?
The old bill are too busy pillorying motorists to find time for litter louts!
This may sound petty but... - BrianW
Funniest thing I saw, many years ago, was a handbag slung out of the door of a car going across lights in the Euston Road by the station.

I could quite see why.

The handbag was on fire.
This may sound petty but... - Blue {P}
On fire? Pah! No excuse at all, some people have no respect. :)

Blue
This may sound petty but... - Hugo {P}
Well - Time for an update.

I received a message from the Police on my answerphone to say that they had identified the car as being registered to a local address. They would speak to the owner and contact me should they wish to take it further.

I have to say I am impressed.

Hugo
This may sound petty but... - googolplex
I hate it when people chuck their fag ends out of the window, and I'm the next car. It bounces creating flying ash sparks and I have this irrational (?) fear that a spark will end up igniting something in the engine of my car and...well you know...

one of my "this may sound petty" phobias probably
Splodgeface
This may sound petty but... - James_Jameson
Excellent to see that there are so many like-minded people around. Time to make the scruffy peasants realise that their actions are not to be tolerated. Bring in the Singapore-style punishments! No graffitti, chewing gum on pavements etc.
This may sound petty but... - Andrew Hamilton
I think in New York they got the crime rate down by concentrating on all the 'minor' offences. The basis was that the antisocial persons who did this would be likely to commit more serious ones.
James may be tongue in cheek re Singapore but I bet he has not had to clean up yards of carpet of chewing gum at a local college.
I am proud of our town and like to see visitors enjoying it. Encouraging people to take litter home and discourage spray can signatures is surely reasonable behaviour?