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Tried to renew my road tax over the phone today and was told that I wasn't on the insurance database. Telephoned my insurance company to find out what was going on and was assured that I was, having paid my premium for next year even though my current policy doesn't expire til next month. I've just been on ASKMID and I'm on there. Clicked on the DVLA link, thinking I'll renew on line. Unfortunately I can't as I'm not on the insurance database. Either somebody is telling lies or someone is breathtakingly incompetent. I'll go down to the post office with all my documents and do it th'old fashioned way then. Tempted to stick the plates on it was wearing when it arrived in this country. Clowns. :-(
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I'm no fan of the DVLA. They are an unaccountable bunch of incompetents who charge an arm and a leg for most of their services, will give away your personal data for the price of a pint to anybody who asks and levy fines with no recourse to appeal .
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To be fair it's the first time I've had a problem with them but what hacks me off is the possibility of what might happen if I get pulled by the BiB....read some horror stories on here. Guess I'll just have to have all my documents with me. Why should I have to though, purely through someones incompetence? Who do the BiB call on for an ANPR check? ASKMID or DVLA?
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ANPR uses the MIDAS database -
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"breathtakingly incompetent" sprang to mind when Boeing left a very large spanner in the drive train of an RAF Chinook not when someone makes a minor clerical error !
Edited by Pugugly on 29/01/2009 at 21:40
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AFAIK the DVLA use the real MID although I suppose it is possible they do an overnight
update to their own systems. I've had a few problems with insurance not updating the MID but none with the DVLA.
You probably will get the same problem at a post office as with a renewal form they do an online check rather than the insurance certificate.
try again in the morning??
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Strangely enough, last year I was ringing round a few insurance companies for a quote for a different vehicle and when I gave them the reg. no. a few of them came back with a different car! Checked with the DVLA and they reassured me and said some insurance companies use a different database? What is going on? :-/
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Checked with the DVLA and they reassured me ..
Check your car details online on the VOSA and/or DVLA web site.
Edited by jbif on 29/01/2009 at 21:42
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Shortly before Xmas I went to renew tax on the net. Router down. Went to potty little post office with the paperwork, and they DID NOT check on any computer. But I believe the biger offices do.
So take it to a PO in the sticks with a sweet little old lady postmistress!!
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'Guess I'll just have to have all my documents with me.'
No point . They will not accept an Insurance certificate any longer.
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We have a catch all insurance policy for our trucks and any we hire, and this certificate is accepted by our local post office, so unless they have stopped taking certificates in the last week I would disagree Mr X.
Edited by LiverpaulH on 30/01/2009 at 11:49
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>An unaccountable bunch of incompetents
Beats me how you continue to use a car (I presume you do) since you don't seem to have a good word for any person or outfit, Mr X. Can't do your blood pressure any good, surely? Or do you find this forum has cathartic value?
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Mine was tested today and at 121/84 for a 49 year old feel very happy ! And very little winds me up !
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.. for a 49 year old .. >>
So yours is another "dangerous" Profession where the perk in return for facing the dangerous/murderous public is that you can retire at 50!
Edited by jbif on 29/01/2009 at 23:13
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Down to a prudent bit of financial planning for the the last 25 years and selling my share in a "company" at what was, in hindsight, at the top of the market - happy days - I become an employee in May with a salary and a pension plan for the first time in my life.
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And a lot of hard work no doubt PU over many years!
Back to the tax problem, am I confused and think the new policy is not started yet as the old one has time before it expires? Therefore is it not the existing policy at issue? He did say: "having paid my premium for next year even though my current policy doesn't expire til next month"
Edited by rtj70 on 29/01/2009 at 23:52
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I'm no fan of the DVLA.
I am. They (competently) provide me with services which I can't get elsewhere.
Edited by L'escargot on 30/01/2009 at 07:10
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Thats called a Monopoly.
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Thats called a Monopoly.
No, it's called a quango.
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Quasi-Autonomous Non-Governmental Organization
Its a Government Agency so it can't be !
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>Thats called a Monopoly.
Surely you're not suggesting two or more competing agencies for registering vehicles? That really is a daft and unworkable idea.
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.. having paid my premium for next year even though my current policy doesn't expire til next month. .. >>
Therein lies the clue!
I'm no fan of the DVLA. They are an unaccountable bunch of incompetents ... >>
I'm no fan of Mr X's rants. He ....
Edited by jbif on 29/01/2009 at 21:39
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Any decent Traffic Officer will exactly what I do. A list of just about every insurance company/broker (it's a big list) with all there telephone numbers.
If someone says they've got insurance, then I'll ring the company and check. Nine times out of ten, they haven't. But regardless of what you hear, we do make efforts to confirm either way.
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Go to your LVLO with your documents and tale of woe - they are in my extensive experience of, sometimes eccentric, transactions flawless in their advice and actions.
Edited by Pugugly on 29/01/2009 at 22:15
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Thanks mlc and PU... I'll see how I get on at the post office tomorrow. I can see problems though if they electronically check it, even though I will show them my documents.
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Have you checked your CAR [not your insurance] details here?
www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/
Are they correct?
Edited by jbif on 29/01/2009 at 22:36
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Hi jbif
Thanks for the link...checked the details and all is well. I think I'll ring my insurance company tomorrow to find out why I haven't received my new certificate yet. They had my money a couple of weeks ago
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>I'll ring my insurance company tomorrow to find out why I haven't received my new certificate yet ..
I renewed by phone a year ago and sat back for the docs to arrive. Near the end of the month when the tax disc was about due, I checked online and found that the system thought I was uninsured. Turned out that the call-centre person had not actioned my renewal, and to restart it would cause an extra fee of £30. Some snotty correspondence got this waived, but it may be what has happened to yours?
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My insurance expired/renewed at midnight and I'm currently NOT on the database per ask MID.
I shall be making a trunk call to my insurer first thing tomorrow!!
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I'm on ASKMID. My insurers are very co-operative in this respect!
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I seized an 08 reg Golf two nights ago. ANPR hit, no insurance. Respectable looking young fella produced genuine looking certificate, taken out nov 08.
Quick call to ins company found the policey cancelled in december. He admitted he'd overextended himself buying the car and cancelled the direct debit for his insurance.
It might have been you he crashed into!
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I seized an 08 reg Golf two nights ago. ANPR hit no insurance. >>
MLC - just out of curiosity, what happened to the Golf after that - was it crushed???
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The car's are kept 14 days before anything happens to them. This was reclaimed that day.
Edited by midlifecrisis on 30/01/2009 at 10:47
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Captain Chaos,
I'm interested in the last sentence of your post, implying that the car is an import, previously registered abroad. Is that correct?
If so, I had a similar situation with a car I imported form France a few years ago and registered here on UK plates (LHD Fiat Ulysse, which had previously been registered in Spain before France). When I took out UK insurance after registering the vehicle, my insurance company would only give 10 months cover rather than a full year, and subsequently I was never able to tax it online as the DVLA search never turned up valid insurance for the car. I taxed it at my local post office with my documents and all was well.
I'm just wondeirng if this is coincidence, or if there is some issue with imported cars or LHD cars and the insurance database.
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Reading this I think I must just be very lucky... only had one problem when I wanted to SORN the Maxi and a quick phone call and a helpful gentleman set me in the right direction...
BTW Last year the POs were accepting Ins Certs to renew tax disks, I had SORN'd the Polo and did it the old fashioned way, they even accepted my ink-jet'd cert from Swiftcover!
Edited by b308 on 30/01/2009 at 10:26
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Why don't they just sell the tax to any one who wants it and leave the police to deal with the matter of insurance and MOT ? That way the money is going in to the pot regardless and if this ANPR is so good, then the other is likely to be detected very quickly.
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Update:
Taxed car on Friday at the Post Office without any problems. I previously phoned my insurance company (again) for reassurance that I was indeed on the database which was confirmed. Never had any problems with my insurance company, been with them for decades and would never change. The extremely helpful lady I spoke to said that sometimes the DVLA would class a car as not insured if the insurance renewal date was close to the tax renewal date as it has been known for people to renew the tax then not bother renewing their insurance, or renewing then cancelling. I don't know if DVLA can trace back to previous tax/insurance/MOT renewal, but if they did they would see seamless continuity. I wonder if it's because I left it a little later than normal this year, normally I renew as soon as I get the reminder? Nothing to stop me cancelling my insurance now though is there? Ha ha ;-)
In reply to Alanovich, yes it is an import, as are quite a few I've had over the years and I've never had any problems before
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