Panda Cross test drive - doctorchris
I have just test driven the Panda Cross today and my impressions may be of interest.
For the uninitiated, this is the only Diesel-engined variant of the Panda 4x4 offered in the UK and it is highly specced but expensive at £11,999. This price is hard to justify compared with the 1.2 petrol-engined Climbing version on economic grounds, so is the extra performance worth it?
Bear in mind that the car I drove had only clocked up 11 miles and, as the only example of the car that the dealer had, I couldn't drive far or push the car hard. I did find it livelier than my petrol-engined Panda 4x4 and, apart from a tickover, quieter and smoother. However, I found it too similar to my present car to justify a change which I estimate would at present cost me at least £6,000 and probably nearer to £8,000.
I like the Dry Turquoise of my present car and find the colours offered for the Cross rather subdued, with the exception of Goa Orange which speaks for itself. Maybe if I was coming anew to the Panda 4x4 I would go for the Cross as I like its styling and higher spec.
I might change my mind if the car discounters come up with some good deals, if my present Panda 4x4 develops terminal illness or if I win Saturday's double rollover Lottery jackpot.
Has anyone else any impressions of this car to add?

Edited by Pugugly on 22/08/2008 at 21:26

Panda Cross Test Drive - retgwte
as you probably know weve got a panda diesel, but its a base model few months old example in good old front wheel drive, paid extra for a full size spare and lockin fuel cap and thats pretty much it

at the price we paid, and theyre even cheaper now its a bargain

its great at its job

it can comfortably do long motorway trips or be a town car

lots of space for tall people

low insurance, good fuel

love it to bits

now to pay 12 K for a 4x4 version with a few extra bits and bobs transforms the economic and pleasure argument, there is no way on this planet that its worth that much money

if you REALLY wanted a 4 wheel drive diesel version could you not source one is another right hand drive country, eg Ireland or New Zealand etc and get it lots cheaper? or even order a RHD example in Italy

They will not really sell at that price, the price will have to collapse

The panda is due an update, and this is probably to some extent trying to bolster the image in the run out phase of this model

Dunno is it really worth twice the price of out car? Nope no way

So there lies ur problem

Why do you really need 4x4 anyways? there are better options for the money, yes I know we are a Panda nut but at some point youve gotta smell the roses

Edited by retgwte on 22/08/2008 at 17:38

Panda Cross Test Drive - The_Flexible_Flaw
So for the price to change for the same car with 4X4 you could get 2 or 3 used RAV4s or a Subaru Forester?

If you need a 4X4 just get a used RAV4 or Forester and keep the Panda.
Panda Cross Test Drive - paulb {P}
doctorchris - do what I did with my 100HP and pick it up at 5 months old for £2.5k off list (and only 150 miles, in my case) :-)

They have one of these in a mossy green colour in our local dealer - definitely a different look with the rear lights. Will be interesting to see how all those plastic bits weather.
Panda Cross Test Drive - qxman {p}
Anyone who really wants a Panda can usually get one at massive discount. They are seldom sold at list price it would seem. A relative of mine ordered a new Panda Multijet earlier this year. With the aircon pack and one or two other odds and ends it was the best part of £11k OTR at list. She got it for a fraction over £7k with mats and a full tank of fuel - over 30% off!. Pewsham Garage Fiat in Wiltshire was the place. I believe Drive The Deal also use them. Her local dealers came fairly close, but not quite that low.
Mind you, its not all good news. Its been in for repair twice already (less than 2k miles on it), once for a fuel system fault (sensor in fuel pipe or something) and then for a gearbox repair. The latter is a common problem according to the dealer, they had already done the same job on a number of other examples.
What's happening with the Fiat 500? I thought this was supposed to be a sure fire winner but I've only seen a handful on the road so far.
Panda Cross - Sulphur Man

It may interest HJ forum members to know that the scarcity of used Panda Crosses, and a belated surge in interest in them, has driven used prices to ridiculous levels.

By way of example, Thames Fiat Slough got a black one in a few days ago, 9K miles, with a sticker price of....drum roll......£13995. And it sold in 24hrs for £13995. I spoke the salesman, he received upwards of 30 phone calls about the car on the morning it was published on Autotrader. It sold early afternoon. Not suprisingly, he wishes he had 20 of them!

Funny how these cars barely shifted when they were in the showroom, with some dealers getting rid for well below list price. And now, after two hard winters, and spiralling motoring costs, their's a frenzy for a used one.

With retrospect, what's not to like about the Panda Cross. A small, economical diesel car, with proven mechanicals and amazing off-road ability, plus nice big plastic bumpers to fend off the supermarket dings. Bring it back, Fiat!

Panda Cross - injection doc

Interesting Sulphur Man

I must admit I had a Panda 4x4 fire for 20 years and best 4x4 I ever had. In snow it was fantastic go anywhere ! it was so light it would even go over 6 ft mounds of snow left by a plough !

recently I saw an old E reg Panda 4x4 sell for £3500 on a car sale site. I did ring up about it and apparently the garage claimed if he had of been lucky enough to of had 20 of them in the same condition he could of sold the lot. Amazing how they earn street cred after production has stopped !

Panda Cross - Sulphur Man

I don't think it's street cred that's driving such keen interest, and amazing price appreciation.

More so, it's a small, economical, but very practical car which looks ready to stand upto our ever-worsening road conditions. The main negative that was laid at the Panda Cross' feet was it's lack of performance. However, many people, myself included, see outright performance as a bonus, but ultimately of little use if you live in urban and suburban areas. Round my way, (Surrey/Hants) to have the opportunity to drive at a steady 60mph on permitted A-roads mp would be nice!

Makes me think if Nissan gave the diesel Juke a 4x4 drivetrain, that could shift a few too.

The Dacia Duster, when it finally arrives, will be one to watch too.

Panda Cross - jc2

Northern Italy-Alps and Dolomites-4x4 Pandas everywhere-even the Police and Mountain Rescue.

Panda Cross - TeeCee

The Dacia Duster, when it finally arrives, will be one to watch too.

Already out here and does what it says on the tin. Rather nasty, but very cheap. I think I rather prefer the original version. That at least had ludicrous levels of "go anywhere" ruggedness and a certain agricultural charm about it.

About the nicest thing you can say about the new one is that at least it isn't a Logan...