36-38mpg is about typical for a 407 2.0 HDI. If you're doing a fair bit of town work and short journies then 35mpg doesn't sound too off.
You might get a bit more on a long run but not a huge amount over 40mpg. The 407 is a heavy car and the 2.0 HDI unit with DPF not a particularly econmical unit. The same unit in the Volvo S40/V50 doesn't do a lot over 40mpg either and is usually less economical than the larger 2.4 D5 in the same cars.
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Thanks guys. The more I have looked into it the more I realise it is probably the norm. I have it booked in for ball joint ? repair at local garage (French specialist) and he says he will plug it in and have a look while he has it. Not expecting any fault codes tho.
Question is how can I up the mpg? I enjoyed driving my Mondeo but this is a different power delivery and I don`t get that oomph with it so I wouldn`t say I enjoy the driving characteristics on the Pug more than my last petrol car (Passat 1.8T). I changed for the economy, which isn`t that much of a jump, only 4 mpg avarage.
I have looked at a performance remap at £250 which promises good decrease in consumption on the HDi engines as well as 164bhp. But I am worried about resale time with modified car. The alternative is one of the plug in performance upgrades which promise similar returns and are similar costs but can be taken off and reprogrammed for next car? I think.
Also got some Millers Power 4 stuff to put in.
Opinions would be appreciated. Don`t want to spend £500 on gizmos but any rec`d at around £250 ish would be do-able.
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The lower ball joints are a common replacement need on a 407. They can go in under 30,000 miles. The part costs about £50 a side plus labour. It is best to get them done as apart from not improving the handling if you leave them too long the actual hub pin can seize into the joint or start wearing and you're looking at a whole new hub.
The other issue is that with the particulate filter is that PSA cars use an addative and after 60,000 or miles the car will report "FAP Fluid Low" or something similar. This needs to be added at a Pug dealer or specialist as the computer needs resetting and costs about £35 a litre in one litre or five litre lots.
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I enjoyed driving my Mondeo but this is a different power delivery and I don`t get that oomph with it
I have had my TDCi for 5.5 years and 125k miles, in the meant time I have driven a number of other diesel cars and have been driven in others and have really yet to come across one of a similar capacity that will pull as cleanly from around 1000 rpm and as strongly from under 1500 so it is really on song at 1800. That being said the 2.0 C-Max which is the same engine as the 407 has a nice surge from 1800.
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Many re-mappers will give you the original ECU image to write it back on re-sale. As for the HDI 136, its been noted that its default ECU settings leave it quite down on power so you should notice quite an improvement overall in economy and performance.
I would steer away from the 'plug-in' devices - they only modify fueling and most of them do so in a generic manor. A good remap would do a far better job.
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Yeah I am looking at remaps as opposed to plug ins. Insurance is the other factor of course and from initial phoning around many of the specialists even want £6-700+ !!
Adrian Flux is best to date with £398 (with NCD protection, legal cover etc) and this is compared to standard of £240 +the extras bringing it to around £320.
Smokescreen, you say most remap people give me the original mapping to revert to standard but am I supposed to do this myself somehow? Or do they revert it back free of charge. Some of the plug ins can be put on different cars with a tweak from the seller. This would seem better in many ways as I am sure they wouldn`t be charging another £250 to tweak the already bought unit.
With my history for keeping cars I wonder if a remap would be cost efficient compared to a, admittedly not as good, plug in unit.
Any recs for a) insurers
b) remaps
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Some will meet you half way and do it for you free of charge. Others may charge a small fee.
Its possible to buy a KWP2000 unit with the right adapter for your ECU , and armed with laptop and the original image, restore it yourself. Its not really rocket science.
As for insurers, Adrian Flux as you've already checked and www.skyinsurance.co.uk for modified cars can be competitive.
407oc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2665&st=0&sk=t&sd=...5
Here's someone who had a remap done on this particular block, which shows how poor it is by default.
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Hi Guys
My 407 is the one mentioned with the remap ;-)
I have achieved 61.3MPG on a 215mile run on the motorway, sitting at 68mph on cruise control.
I usually acheive high 40 to low 50's on general driving (Maily A-Roads).
I believe there is definately something wrong with your car to achieve MPG that low, I still get over 40MPG as an average when I am booting it everywhere (And I mean really booting it!)
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Hi Blue,
Can I ask who did the remap?
Thanks,
Steve.
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Thanks guys. The more I have looked into it the more I realise it is probably the norm. I have it booked in for ball joint ? repair at local garage (French specialist) and he says he will plug it in and have a look while he has it. Not expecting any fault codes tho.
If you've bought from JCT600 Peugeot you are probably from Bradford/Leeds. Could you tell me the name of the independent you used please? I've been to 2 Citroen independents in Bradford, one was rubbish and the other one doesn't have the electronic gadgetry for new cars, but I'd certainly use for mechanical things.
Thanks. Ben
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