Both Cars Stolen - update - jdc
Some of you kind people may remember my situation back in August when both cars were stolen at knife point from my house.

I can't do a linky thing, so I trust you may recall the incident.

Well, my wife and I have both been asked to attend as witnesses and needless to say I was a bit nervous about this.

I phoned the court on their advice line and the clerk said there were about 70+ witnesses for these guys so I guess they must have a long string of convictions against them.

All goes to show, it wasn't personal - they were in effect just 'doing a job'

In a way I feel a lot easier now ....

Best regards
jdc

"Linky thing"

Vol 1 : www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=55381

Vol. 2 www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=55450&...f

Follow Up

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=643536...e

Edited by Pugugly {P} on 11/01/2008 at 23:35

Both Cars Stolen - update - FotheringtonThomas
Well my wife and I have both been asked to attend as witnesses and needless
to say I was a bit nervous about this.


I know the feeling. However, you are just a witness, not the one sending them (hopefully) down. It's important not to be intimidated (it is very, very unlikely that you'd suffer real ill consequences anyway) or else the entire system becomes unworkable, and would be damaged - the baddies would be the winners.
Both Cars Stolen - update - Pugugly {P}
Remember that this case is subjudice when it goes to Court. This site is easily accessed by anyone.
Both Cars Stolen - update - jdc
Cheers PU

Am aware of the subjudice issue so was careful not to say too much - just wanted to give an update as there was a lot of interest / comment at the time and I think it's good if there is an end to the story, if you like.

jdc
Both Cars Stolen - update - Altea Ego
jdc.

You did exactly the right thing at the time of the incident. Now is the time for you to do the right thing again and ensure that the justice system does its work, and bring closure
Both Cars Stolen - update - Waino
Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
Both Cars Stolen - update - Leif
I've just read the original threads for the first time and all I can say is my goodness!

As others have said, let us know the outcome.

Edited by Webmaster on 12/01/2008 at 13:51

Both Cars Stolen - update - Tron
You never think it will happen to you.

This is the reality of the lifestyle of today.

Those that don't have will take from those that have and by any means possible with no regard of the consequences on either party.



Both Cars Stolen - update - Lud
This is the reality of the lifestyle of today.
Those that don't have will take from those that have

You exaggerate Tron. If you were right, those that have would have had it, so to speak, because they are substantially outnumbered. Most people try to be decent and there is the rule of law here. The law and the legislature have always had to adapt to circumstances and the struggle to resolve or suppress contradictions in society - which are always with us - is sometimes more difficult than at others. But it's never a pushover because everything keeps changing.

AE's attitude is correct in my opinion.

Both Cars Stolen - update - Hamsafar
Don't worry, you will only get called if they plead not guilty, and then want to contest the statement you made. If they do plead not guilty, it may be because their defence sees pound signs in their eyes and tells them they might be in with a chance. I think courts have improved the security in the last decade, so you don't wait in the same area as their homies etc..
Both Cars Stolen - update - Westpig
Don't worry you will only get called if they plead not guilty.... If they do plead not guilty it may be because their defence sees pound signs in their eyes and tells them they might be in with a chance. >>


some defendants will plead not guilty on principle to see if some or all of the witnesses turn up. If a crucial witness doesn't attend, they may wriggle off...if sufficient witnesses do attend they can still plead guilty at the trial.. and still gain some benefit from the court for pleading guilty i.e. lesser sentence for pleading guilty.

don't forget the vast majority of crooks by far see this system as an occupational hazard, so they don't take it personally when a victim gives evidence, they see it as an inevitable consequence of their system....and then move on to the next one when they're out....it is exceedingly rare for a crook to go back to a victim after a sentence, (because they gave evidence at the trial)...and nowadays in the most unlikely event they did there are specific offences to cover it, which makes it quite easy for them to be whisked back to jail.

Ultimately if you are/were to be an important witness and the trial judge thought you were not going to attend, he/she could issue a witness summons, which means you have to attend...(lady in Cornwall recently got 14 days imprisonment for ignoring witness summons).

They will be more worried about you (as a witness) than you'd imagine...and IMO this element is like a hand of poker....i.e. who has the most front to hide the nerves and show the other party they aren't really bothered (even if they are).

Good Luck.
Both Cars Stolen - update - GroovyMucker
As Westpig says, the important thing is to turn up. If you don't, then your evidence won't be heard (there's no provision for reading statements unless the defence agrees). If you've been warned to attend trial, your evidence is not agreed.

The good news is, as WP implies, when you do attend then it's (perversely) less likely you'll actually have to give evidence.

Both Cars Stolen - update - jdc
Thanks guys

For your info, I intend to attend and eyeball them .... like you say, they are probably (hopefully...!) more bothered by me than I am of them ....

Thanks for our supportive comments

jdc


Both Cars Stolen - update - PoloGirl
JDC, how's your son doing now? Does he know you've been called as a witness?

Most courts should now have access to a witness care unit, who could put you in touch with the relevant support services if he shows any signs of being upset about it all again (and you and your wife as well for that matter).

Best of luck with it all...I have a feeling that being able to 'eyeball' them and see them convicted would be good closure for me too.
Both Cars Stolen - update - jdc
Hi PG

My son is fine - still a bit spooked about noises outside (like me ..!) but generally absolutely fine.

He knows about the witness issue. We contacted the witness support unit to express our concerns and they have been great, really supportive and understanding.

Like I said, 70+ other witnesses from other events puts the whole thing in perspective.

Thanks for your concern again.

jdc
Both Cars Stolen - update - barney100
Tron's statement could have been written at any time in history, it's the way of the world.