I was looking at a North East dealer website for a Subaru outback with Reg BL55 *** for £17.995 when I noticed that the picture was taken when it was SNOWING !!!!
Given that it probably has not snowed since Feb it beggars belief that they have either
1: Not updated website with new photo
2: Sold car and not updated website
Car has been on site for at least 2 weeks
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Some of the cars do stick around for a while - often because of the, er, ambitious prices on the windscreen.
Most of them do haggle though!! If interested, give them a call....
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i can understand it might stick due to pricing but I am D.... d sure that a photo showing it snowing might well deter people viewing it.
I hope it has not been moved in and out of garage to be on forecourt.
Twice a day starting for 100 yards will not have improved the cat converter or if it has been standing in same place for 6 months will not have improved flat spots on tyres
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I have looked at the Subaru range and thought about buying - ideal car was up to 2 yrs old and lowish mileage (<20,000) and say £12K-£14K
Looked for many months and spoke to quite a few outlets - the stock has taken root on the forecourt and has hardly moved - the same could be said for their prices - asked about a discount from screen price was received with contempt.
If you took a picture of the forecourt from one month to the next many of the cars would have moved around the garage but not to new customers. I feel there is a agreement to keep prices at a artificially high price.
New Imported Subarus (2.0RX estate for example can be £5K less than the UK list and cheaper than 2-3 yr old 2nd hand Franchised dealer sites.
I bought a X-trail yesterday, 2007 model, 10 mls on the clock - spent £16,000.
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TBH I think most franchised dealers try to keep prices up in the belief that its good for the brand - its not just a Subaru thing.
The problem that Subaru dealers have is that the importer (IM Group, who are agents for most of the EU) holds prices so high. There has been a flood of UK-spec imports from Malta and Cyprus at 25%+ below UK list prices. The Maltese importer (Liaco) is not part of IM Group. Apparently Subaru is the best selling brand in Malta!! If you buy a new Subaru at Maltese prices then they represent stunning value. They are backed by a 3-year Pan-Euro warranty that UK dealers have to honour, so there is little risk.
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friend of mine bought a a 2.5XT Forrester: unregistered but prior year model. £7k discount from list.
Subaru marketing is carp.
madf
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A Subaru with a reg beginning B is almost certainly an ex-management car as the UK HQ is in West Bromwich. The official site offers the option of seeing centrally held stock that can be delivered to your local dealer. As someone who looked hard at a Legacy last year I can vouch for the fact that many cars remain online/at dealers for months and months. When they get to a certain age though, the price does drop and these get snapped up quickly. My local dealer had a Legacy Sports Tourer at £16K for almost a year: at twelve months it dropped to 12.5 and went within days.
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Does anyone know whether subarusupersaver.com are selling UK cars or imported vehicles? Their prices seem remarkably low compared with dealers!
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Read #3 of www.subarusupersaver.com/FAQ.aspx
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They claim to be recommended by this site. Is this so?
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Thanks oldnotbold - I must learn to read! Anyone had any experience with them?
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Check the 'FAQ' on the subarusupersaver.com site - all the info is there.
They advise the cars are not 'imported' but sourced in the UK with full Subaru warranty etc.
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subarusupersaver - strange!
I looked at their details for a new Outback but the specification is for 2007 model, not 2008 and the illustration is for 2004 model!
I'd want to know exact model year and build date if I was buying there.
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I bought my Impreza from Allbrandsnew in Hull. It was an EU Import sourced from Malta.
I was highly impressed by the service, and the discount (just over £5k off a £17k car). I DID try to negotiate with my local dealer but they were offering a derisory £1k off.
The car was a factory order from Japan, shipped to Malta, PDI'd by Subaru Malta and then shipped to UK. Allbrandsnew were very helpful at all times in letting me know what 'stage' the car was at. The car was built toward the end of May '07 (according to all the date stamps on hoses, plastic mouldings etc).
It arrived in Malta in July and then was shipped to UK in August. They held it for me until Sept 07 so it could be put on a '57 registration (I am listed as the 'first owner' on the V5c and in the service book etc). Collection from Hull went very smoothly and the car was immaculately prepared and with 1/2 a tank of fuel put in.
I have not yet found any differences between my car and the 'UK supplied' model - apart from a set of McGard locking wheel nuts that is (cost me £20).
It has a 3-year pan-Euro warranty, usual paint and corrosion warranty and appears on the Subaru UK warranty database on the computer at my local dealer (who is happy to service it and did me a 'remap' of the ECU under warranty).
So far the car has been 100% and I'm delighted with it. My first Subaru and definitely not my last - I'm a convert!
I'll certainly be looking at this company for my next new car (don't work for them or have any other commercial connection - just a happy customer).
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I was looking for a new car over the last 12 months - I wanted a low mileage, nearly new car. I looked long and hard on Dealer Websites & autotrader (amongst others).
Some cars took my eye but not the price ................
I ended up buying a new car from Motorpoint as it seemed the route of least hassle and a good price (that was October 07)
I looked again yesterday for some of the same cars on Autotrader
Lexus Franchised dealer - car on sale today @ £13K. Last January, it was overpriced @ £16K, then £15K in April - I offered them £13.5K for a straight deal and was refused as the car was too good to sell with £1500 off as they had already reduced it by £1,000 since January. The RFL ran up in Nov 06 so it has been in their stock 15 months.
A few other examples were found in a matter of minutes. Lexus was not the worst examples - Subaru Outbacks must be anchored to the forecourt.
When I worked (not cars) stock turn was the key - fresh stock sold, old stock just consumed space and money - so we cleared the decks regulary even if a small loss was made. A small losss was preferable to a big one.
I thought garages would turn stock in a month- 6 weeks or clear it - appreantly not.
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"Black Book" values are determined by reported selling prices from dealers & auctions I believe.
I guess there is a "company line" r.e. trying to keep 2nd hand prices artificially high so depreciation figures look good, thus more tempting to new car buyers.
I've heard this about MINI prices - main dealers would pay over the odds to keep cars in-house & those depreciation figures low.
MVP
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I see the subarusupersaver site is offering the new diesels too - due in March was it?
Don't like the spec of only 17" wheels with 45 profile tyres on the Tourer and Saloon. My Outback has 55 profile which at least remove some of my anger as I traverse the speed bumps.
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Cor. I wouldn't fancy 45 section tyres on my Outback either. I think the 55 section are too low nad I would much prefer 60 or even 65 section. The 65 section tyres on the Mark 1 Forester made it a very comfortable car on uneven roads.
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Outback generally run two profiles up on Legacy - currently 55 against 45, both on 17" rims.
My main reason for buying an '06 Outback rather than an '07 was to get 60 profile on 16" rims and I'll go up to 65 when they need changing..
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I changed from the Legacy to the Outback because of the decent tyres on the Outback, 16in. and 60. The roads are getting worse and speed cushions more numerous. The only downside is that I can't carry on a decent conversation with SWMBO because the ride lulls her to sleep.
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I wish the 3.0 Outback had 60 section tyres. It has 55-section. Not bad, but would love to go to 60 section. I wonder what difference it would make to the accuracy of the speedometer?
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As there seems to be 3-4% error on my '06 Outback 2.5 speedometer, increasing profile by 5 might reduce the error without illegally underreading.
Edited by Pugugly {P} on 03/02/2008 at 19:23
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