BCA Buyers Fees - tristar
Hi
Can anyone help with the level of buyers fees charged by Britich Car Auctions (BCA) to individuals? The response, via email, from BCA indicates that this is something of a secret! I'm just after a % level to enable me to budget. Last time I purchased, in 2004, I paid £165.11 plus VAT = £194.00 on a purchase price of £4723 plus VAT =£5744. Arev these percentages still realistic across a whole range of sale prices?

Any advice welcomed.
Regards
BCA Buyers Fees - local yokel
Use Joe Dowd - not only do you get excellent service, but you get to pay trade fees as well.

www.auctioncarbuyer.co.uk/AuctionCarBuyer-Services...m
BCA Buyers Fees - tristar
Hi
Thank you however It doesn't answer my question.
Regards
BCA Buyers Fees - pd
There is no exact ratio, but if you budget 4-5% you will cover yourself easily. The fee on a £500 car is about 4.5%, on more expensive cars the fee reudces percentage wise and on cheaper goes up a bit. BCA also charge an extra fee for putting the V5 in the post. Maheim are in the same ballpark.
BCA Buyers Fees - pd
Oops. £500 should have read £5000.
BCA Buyers Fees - tristar
Excellent. Thank you.
BCA Buyers Fees - Vin {P}
Tristar,

The best bet would be to call them rather than email - it seems to be a % that varies with the value of the car. They now also charge you for registering the vehicle into your name. Give them a call and ask what your total fees would be.

Their number is 01428 607440

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BCA Buyers Fees - markcarparts
Can anyone help on this same subject. I want to buy C Class Mercedes 220CDi, 2006 or later and plan to go to BCA. Is there anyway of reducing the huge buyers premium they charge? Or is there a better way to buy this vehicle better?
BCA Buyers Fees - drbe
May I refer you to the second post in this thread?
BCA Buyers Fees - pd
To get the lower buyer's fee you need to have a Gold Card which you need to have purchased at least 12 cars in the last 12 months from BCA. There is also a middle range Silver card which I think is 3-11 cars in 12 months.

The other alternative is, obviously, to get somebody else to buy it on their account for you.
BCA Buyers Fees - spikeyhead {p}
On something this expensive, I suspect that Joe Dowd's fees would be cheaper than the private buyers premium. I'm likely to be at BCA Bedford on Thursday, I'll make a note of the buyers fees and put some examples up here, I know that there's a list on the well in each hall.
BCA "Margin" - tristar
British Car Auctions. The vehicle description often includes the word "Margin". Can anyone explain what this means?
Thank you.

BCA "Margin" - Trader Tim

Traders buy and sell 2 different types of car, one is VAT qualifying, this is for cars that have been solely used for commercial use or commercial vehicles such as vans. The hammer price at auction includes VAT (except on vans where its plus VAT) and this can be used as 'input' tax if you are VAT registered, you then sell the car with 'output' tax declared paying the difference between the 2 on your VAT return. A margin car has been normally privately owned and the VAT was not reclaimed by the first buyer, therefore the selling price has no element of VAT and therefore no 'input' tax so the trader pays VAT on the profit he makes on the vehicle, this is called a 'margin car' thisdoes not really make any difference unless you are a VAT registered trader, you effectively pay the hammer price as an individual whether the car inclues VAT or not.

Not many people realise that traders pay a lot of VAT, you have to pay VAT on your profits regardless of what you have spent, collecting, refurbishing or repairing the vehicle, the car game is really difficult for the smaller trader these days. Trader Tim out!

BCA "Margin" - Trader Tim

By the way watch out for those buyers premiums, as an individual the buyers premiums are extortionate. In my humble opinion you would be better off looking for a car for sale privately, you can choose on spec. colour & condition, it may cost you a couple of quid more but you'll have a lot more choice than at auction. Trader Tim

BCA "Margin" - Roly93

I got sick of auctions years ago especially BCA in particular. It is tricky to truly get a good deal bces uying or selling as a private buyer.

It my belief that all sorts of dodgey practices go on between auctioneers and the wall !!

BCA "Margin" - pd
BCA are owned by a private equity firm who bought them from another private equity firm. They seem primarily interested in extracting as much cash as possible before flogging them on again - everything - buyers premiums, live on line charges, storage, fees etc. have really been ramped up this year.
BCA "Margin" - Lockkeeper74

I recently bidded on an old banger at BCA Blackbushe and got it for a hammer price of £175. Had to pay buyers premium of £99 and V5C fee of £20. Total just under £300. Not quite such a good deal!

BCA "Margin" - daveyK_UK

How anyone can afford to pay the ridiculously high buyers fees or even worse, the ridicuously high sure sell fees, is beyond me.

There does now seem to be an increasing number of vendors finding alternative ways on the internet of moving on P/X and old stock, to avoid the money trap that is BCA and Mainheim.

BCA "Margin" - pd

Manheim have grabbed quitre a few major contracts from BCA recently including a lot of CC Trade, Ridgeway VW and Marshalls.

Their fees are nearly as high as BCA although not quite as bad.

Remember that the major vendors will be paying very little commission per car.

BCA "Margin" - ish

im new to this site and auctions i just bought a car for £625 they charged me a buyers fee of £223 £40 for online bidding or something plus £8 vat i have a blue card it wasmy first car with bca and i will probably break even or maybe even lose a bit are there other sites that are a bit more upfront with how much they will charge you

BCA "Margin" - daveyK_UK

www.whatvan.co.uk/news/2015/bca-to-be-renamed-foll...n

BCA take over

Will we see more sensible auction buy/sell/admin prices or even more increases?

BCA "Margin" - pd

Well, there you go. Back in 2011 I wrote above that BCA's owners were trying to get as much value out of BCA as possible before exiting quickly at a profit.

IIRC they paid £400m for it and have just sold it for £1.2m.

All their fees have gone up a fair bit since the originals posts and their customer service is as abysmal as ever. They are also generally understaffed at many of their centres.